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Sam
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How wrong would I be if I said Metal is basically the culmination of all misguided, overindulgent and fundamentally bad/un-artistic aspects of music?
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What would be a more worthy genre, then?
You'd be very wrong. Thread solved.
I'd be hesitant to lump Black Sabbath in. They made bad stuff after Ozzy, and Ozzy made plenty of bad stuff but early Sabbath is good hard rock. There are many popular metal songs that are more hard rock than metal.
Metal seems to be the point at which they lose contact with any aesthetic sensibility, or redefine their aesthetic philosophy to treating their instruments like weights that are too light for them, but they are on steroids/jager/a like minded mob so NOTHING MATTERS
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I mean, that's an impressive list of victories. Except for grunge. But it appears we are going to end up disagreeing.
Damn Salvation beat me. I'm going drinking.
BEATEN SO HARD
I find it's only worth is that anyone can come up with a gimmick as a band and it's a new genre of metal.
Like viking metal. That's some funny shit.
Is Creed metal?
This is it.
And "fundamentally bad" is another long, ultimately pointless conversation as well.
You could probably make the same argument for Tarantino's movies.
Now we're going places.
No.
Anecdotally speaking? Yes.
I'd also like to know what musicians/bands the OP listens to, so he can be properly ridiculed.
Weird.
Anecdotally speaking. No.
And yet you didn't disprove what I said nannernannernanner
How do you disprove "some racist people listen to metal"?
Okay first of all the burden of proof is on your end. If you don't like metal wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that you don't have much exposure to the metal scene as a whole?
You're alright, arod.
I provided the fact that I knew of many guys who were a) dirty racists b) metalheads.
And you were like I don't.
Your annecdotal evidence doesn't counter mine imo. We don't subtract the number of non-racist metal guys from the number of racist metal guys and then be like look at how tolerant we are.
I mean shit of course most metal fans aren't racist and shit but imo there's a worrying racist subculture there.
OP is stupid and so wrong that it's painful. Not to mention the fact that metal is a very diverse genre (hey guess what there are whole subgenres without screaming/growling vocals! no way!)
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As a guy who spends a lot of time going to metal shows and hanging out with metalheads i've encountered very little racism. However I am aware that I should probably not show up at some socialist black metal shows. Keeping that in mind I challenge you to provide a genre that has not been polluted by racist artist at some point.
You know, with vocals.
(edit: also my argument counters yours perfectly since it's a flawed argument to begin with.)
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NSBM (national socialist black metal) is a whole other kettle of fish that I don't really know enough about to discuss, but I'll let the guy from Summoning do it for me.
e: Oh shit, forgot how big that thing was and the use of the N word.
fairly long discussion about why nazism doesn't fit in with metal, including 2 uses of the N word
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