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Student Loan + Credit Card = Credit Building Magic?

meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So I've got a student loan now (first of 3-4 most likely), an unsubsidized Stafford. I've elected to pay the interest that accrues while I'm in school as opposed to having it add to the principal. Regardless, there will be a minimum monthly payment to be made (about $80/month).

I'm 20 years old, never had a credit card in my life and thus probably have an abysmal credit score if any. Not looking to make a big purchase in the near future, but I'd like to have some credit built when I do need it after I graduate in a few years. The student loan is with Wells Fargo so I was thinking of opening up a checkings/saving account with them, then getting a credit card with them. My plan is to set up the monthly minimal loan payment on the credit card, and then pay the balance each month. Not going to use it for anything else.

Is this a good way to build credit, without getting myself into a ton of debt, or will it accomplish little to nothing?

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Just making timely payments on your student loan will build your credit history, but yes doing what you intend to do will build credit "faster." Instead of 1 line of credit (student loan) you will have 2. Just don't get into trouble with the card.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Probably just going to cut it up when I do get it. I already have an "emergency" credit card with my name on it, though my mom is the account holder so I'm not building anything there.

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  • oncelingonceling Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Some people see a credit card as more money that they have (someone did a great analogy on the boards this week) like:

    $50 in my checking account
    $150 credit line on my credit card

    I HAVE $200 YAY!!

    And then there are people that say:

    $50 in my checking account
    $150 credit line on my credit card

    I have $50, yay!

    If you are the latter, then you'll have no troubles with a card. I've had several credit cards and credit lines and have never had any trouble at all. The card in fact pays the full balance to $0.00 automatically from my checking account every month.

    If you're the former style (you may not even know it) credit cards are basically something you should never own, lol.

    So basically, if you can be responsible with a card and see it just as a payment instrument not actual cash then you're gold, this is a good plan, get one.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Odds are, they won't let you pay down a loan with a credit card. The smart thing to do to build credit is just to use your credit card for whatever purchases you'd make anyway, then pay it down entirely at the end of every month. There's no reason to be so scared of credit cards, as long as you use them responsibly.

    Also, Wells Fargo is a shitty, shitty bank. If you have other options in your area (Chase, WaMu, a credit union, even BofA), I'd use them.

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  • VirumVirum Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I use plastic for everything, never have carried a running balance.

    Even though I don't make much money a year (< $5000 a year [i am an RA so my housing is paid for by school and not counted as income]) my credit card went from my initial limit of $200 to $2000 in almost a year - I'm guessing this most certainly reflects my credit rating and the fact that I kept almost maxing it out but could still pay it.

    I don't have any loans or any other lines of credit, so I'm sure that with your loan and a credit card that you use for everything you will see your score go up quite fast.

    Really, it is so convenient just to charge things, no holding lines up by writing checks, no fumbling about with change, etc. Also everything is posted online and with wireless statements everything is a breeze.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Odds are, they won't let you pay down a loan with a credit card. The smart thing to do to build credit is just to use your credit card for whatever purchases you'd make anyway, then pay it down entirely at the end of every month. There's no reason to be so scared of credit cards, as long as you use them responsibly.

    Also, Wells Fargo is a shitty, shitty bank. If you have other options in your area (Chase, WaMu, a credit union, even BofA), I'd use them.

    Why are they shitty? Only reason I would go with them is because I already have the student loan with them (didn't really care at the time since the terms on the unsub. Stafford are the same no matter what bank you use).

    There is a .25% deduction on the 6.8% or whatever I'm paying on the loan if it's paid for with a Wells Fargo account. I realize this is almost nothing but still.
    Really, it is so convenient just to charge things, no holding lines up by writing checks, no fumbling about with change, etc. Also everything is posted online and with wireless statements everything is a breeze

    No offense but this seems like exactly the kind of dribble the credit card companies spew in their commercials. Like I'm supposed to feel socially irresponsible for "holding up" a line by paying cash? Either way, I have a debit card which I like using because when it runs out of money I don't have to worry about a bill I can't afford to pay.

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  • VirumVirum Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Well if you aren't responsible enough to know how much money you have in your checking account keep using your debit card by all means.... you just won't build any credit that way.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Listen, I don't have a job. I don't need to be charging shit all the time. It doesn't make any sense. I don't need you making me feel like I'm holding up the world because I don't want to use credit for every little purchase.

    Thanatos - Can you elaborate on the banks?

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  • VirumVirum Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Look, you are talking about building credit here. Like Than said, odds are you won't be able to pay off the loan with your credit card - I'd be surprised at least.

    So you can get a credit card and not use it - that won't build credit.

    Or you can use it the same way you use your debit card already - and build some credit with it. You are already spending the money anyway so as long as you don't rely on your debit cards auto anti-overdraft feature or whatever-the-fuck (mine didn't have that so it was just like using a credit card in that I could accidentally spend too much), you'll be fine. Spending money is spending money, the means doesn't matter. If you want to build credit you need to well, use credit.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If that's the case then I'm not going to get one at all. He said "odds are", we don't really know yet.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You most likely won't be able to pay a loan with a credit card. They will probably demand a bank account to wire money from.

    But as far as credit cards, just use it for gas, and pay it off.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    meatflower wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Odds are, they won't let you pay down a loan with a credit card. The smart thing to do to build credit is just to use your credit card for whatever purchases you'd make anyway, then pay it down entirely at the end of every month. There's no reason to be so scared of credit cards, as long as you use them responsibly.

    Also, Wells Fargo is a shitty, shitty bank. If you have other options in your area (Chase, WaMu, a credit union, even BofA), I'd use them.
    Why are they shitty? Only reason I would go with them is because I already have the student loan with them (didn't really care at the time since the terms on the unsub. Stafford are the same no matter what bank you use).

    There is a .25% deduction on the 6.8% or whatever I'm paying on the loan if it's paid for with a Wells Fargo account. I realize this is almost nothing but still.
    Wells Fargo is a terrible bank because they're not interested in your business. They'll basically charge you anytime you talk to a teller, or give you a total runaround over the phone, because they're assholes. Their customer service is basically the worst of any of the big banks. For a .25% interest deduction, though, it's probably worth it. Though, 6.8% is a pretty ridiculous interest rate right now; have you already gotten the loan, or have you just gotten it approved? Have you talked to other banks?

    Anyway, they probably won't let you pay the loan down with a credit card. Now, I'm not telling you to get a credit card because you're "holding up the world" or whatever by paying with cash. The issue is that by using cash, you're not building credit, whereas if you were using a credit card, you would be. This is going to affect you after you get out of college, if you need a loan to by a car, or down the line if you need one to buy a house, or for any other reason. Credit history is important, and by using a credit card and paying it down in full every month, you're basically building a credit history completely free of charge.

    The reason people are acting like "why wouldn't you do this, what are you, stupid," is that avoiding credit cards just because they're credit cards is fairly irrational. I mean, you've got every right to do it, but really, all you're going to be doing by avoiding them entirely is hurting yourself in the long run.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I've signed the MPN (Master Promissory Note) and sent it in, they're supposedly mailing out the check on the 23rd of this month. When I was going through the process of getting the loan with my school it was basically "pick a lender" it doesn't matter because the terms of a Stafford loan are the same everywhere. Maybe I misunderstood that, but I think it's too late at this point to back out of it. I would have picked WaMu but it wasn't a choice available to me, don't think they are writing new student loans at this time due to the Chase merger and all that.

    I'm wary about using a credit card because I don't have my own source of income currently, and will be relying on a stipend (probably like $200 a month) from my parents for miscellaneous costs. Any credit card I get is probably not going to have a limit much above that so I can't get myself into too much trouble. I guess I'll just use it for food/gas as suggested, not really going to be buying much else anyhow, while budgeting myself under whatever the amount of money I'll be receiving from my parents. If that makes sense.

    I was more freaked out about this before because I didn't do my part and read up on credit cards, in that if it's paid off before the end of the month I'm not paying lolinterest on small purchases.

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