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My mom is looking for a healthy weight gain supplement. She weighs about 85lbs and is 54 years old. She has always been extremely skinny and has been trying different weight gain methods for over 20 years. For many reasons they have not worked. I am positive that she does not maintain proper vitamin intake as well, a problem that could hopefully be tackled at the same time.
Her doctor tells her that there are some risks involved in post-menopausal women gaining weight, but he suggests that her current weight is already unhealthy and an even bigger risk. He has been telling her to gain weight for years. He sent her to a nutritionist years ago where she was prescribed Ensure shakes. She stopped drinking them due to taste & cost. A different nutritionist recently told her the same thing.
She also tried a powder years and years ago that was awful tasting. I know that protein powders have advanced in recent years in terms of taste and nutrition. Her doctor has recently convinced her to try again. Unfortunately doc has no recommendations beyond what she has already tried & the nutritionists are parrots.
Is there a healthy weight gain powder for an adult woman or is she destined to drink Ensure (or nothing)?
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ShogunHair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get alongRegistered Userregular
Weight gain powder? What happened to good ol' eating? I'm guessing she's looking for a healthier way to gain weight because, obviously, eating 5 hamburgers will do a toll on a 54 year old woman. (as it would anyone lol).. But I just suggest eating more (healthy).. I think that's the most efficient way to gain weight.
Seriously, "food" is the correct supplement. Weight gain supplements are just that, supplements, to go along with a proper diet. On top of that, the ones focused on weigh gaining are fucking terrible for you at the best of times. The secret to having a proper diet is to actually read the labels and have some idea of what you're eating. You know you need more calories and just can't eat more? Read the labels and find something that has more calories in a similar sized serving - preferably quality calories, not simple sugars and excess fat.
kaliyamaLeft to find less-moderated foraRegistered Userregular
edited December 2008
Have you tried asking at a GNC or something?
To the people advising OP to just eat more - if she's that skinny, it's likel that she has some combination of a small stomach and fast metabolism. To eat herself to the point of being ill on fatty foods may be a favored past time for us video gamers, but I have to think it'd be even more unpleasant for her than drinking ensure shakes.
Have you tried asking at a GNC or something?
To the people advising OP to just eat more - if she's that skinny, it's likel that she has some combination of a small stomach and fast metabolism. To eat herself to the point of being ill on fatty foods may be a favored past time for us video gamers, but I have to think it'd be even more unpleasant for her than drinking ensure shakes.
So far no one has suggested that she go eat a box of twinkies everyday. It has been suggestions to eat healthy (well, one who just said "eat more", but I feel safe in assuming they do not mean more twinkies) and pay attention to what is being eaten.
Asking at GNC is also probably a terrible idea. They are not doctors or dieticians. They are salesmen. Salesmen who's job is to sell you overpices supplements that you probably don't need and may or may not actually be any good for you. Some of the people there probably have some real interest in health and that sort of stuff, but as a general rule, I wouldn't expect quality dietary advice any more from them than I do computer and electronics advice from the people at Best Buy and Circuit City, in fact I expect less, because I'm pretty sure the GNC people are on commission.
Taking a proper look at your diet and trying to correct it with real food should always be the first step in fixing weigh issues and dietary needs. Supplements, as I said, are just to supplement an already good diet and I would argue are not needed probably 99% of the time. If she truly does feel that eating properly and paying attention to what is being eaten are not working then she should be talking to a doctor, not a salesman at a questionable supplements store.
What you are not understanding (as I do not myself, being a fatty 190 lbs) is that "just eating more" is not possible. This has been going on for 20+ years. What she needs is basically a calorie/nutrient dense food that she can have maybe once a day to supplement what she already eats (or replace one unhealthy item with). This is the recommendation from her actual doctor. There is a reason that Ensure shakes are *prescribed*, as in a doctor handed her a prescription for it and she can get it from the pharmacy. She just can't stand the taste/cost.
People at GNC actually nutritionists? My experience with the place is that they staff it with kids. My experience is limited to only one store though.
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JohnnyCacheStarting DefensePlace at the tableRegistered Userregular
edited December 2008
Walmart has some generic ensures that actually taste better. Is she lactose intolerant? If not, switch her to whole milk.
She is not lactose intolerant but I don't think I have ever seen her drink milk straight. The only liquid I have ever seen her ingest is tea (daily) or diet soda (not daily, but too often for her health).
Walmart has some generic ensures that actually taste better. Is she lactose intolerant? If not, switch her to whole milk.
Milk, especially whole milk, is excellent for putting on weight and not awful for you. It is very calorie dense, the calcium is something most aging women need anyway, and it contains IGF-1 which stimulates growth. She can make her own shakes if she wants - toss it in a blender with a fruits or whatever, probably some other crap, I've never made my own because I'm lazy, but I'm sure there are plenty of recipes on the internet.
As to the shakes, how long has she actually tried taking them? When I'm working out seriously I do take a protein shake immediately after work outs. Any time I switch brands it tastes absolutely terrible to me for a week or two, but I adjust to it over time and am usually enjoying it by the time I'm done with whatever I bought and try to get the same brand again.
As to other shakes she might try, see if a walmart or whatever near you carries myoplex (not myoplex light). That shit is chock full of calories, has vitamins, quality carbs, protein, etc. I don't know if it tastes any better than ensure or not since I have never drank ensure.
Sorry if my first post was not terribly helpful. Whenever these diet questions come up, my first assumption is that the person is not actually reading the labels and paying attention to what they eat, because 99% of the time that is the case.
What you are not understanding (as I do not myself, being a fatty 190 lbs) is that "just eating more" is not possible. This has been going on for 20+ years. What she needs is basically a calorie/nutrient dense food that she can have maybe once a day to supplement what she already eats (or replace one unhealthy item with). This is the recommendation from her actual doctor. There is a reason that Ensure shakes are *prescribed*, as in a doctor handed her a prescription for it and she can get it from the pharmacy. She just can't stand the taste/cost.
Right, but this isn't the main question.
Does she eat enough to begin with?
A doctor prescribed Ensure to my grandmother as well, but that's because she stopped eating as much as she should due to depression. In that case, eating was absolutely preferable, but since she wasn't going to do it the Ensure came in.
I know it sounds like we're harping here or being dense, but eating more if it's possible is absolutely the best solution, and doctors are often forced to work around habits that patients won't change.
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She is not lactose intolerant but I don't think I have ever seen her drink milk straight. The only liquid I have ever seen her ingest is tea (daily) or diet soda (not daily, but too often for her health).
What does she have against sweet tea and regular soda? And she's 54, if she starts drinking 5 diet sodas a day right now it probably won't hurt her a bit.
Myoplex is a decent-tasting protein shake suppliment that has decent caloric content as well. Look into that - its sold at smoothie kings and GNCs, etc.
I think weight gain and weight loss have some very similar factors. If this thread were a question about weight loss, we would have expected you to post a menu. You've ruled out specific medical problems that can be treated, and the doctors have recommended a caloric solution.
She is not lactose intolerant but I don't think I have ever seen her drink milk straight. The only liquid I have ever seen her ingest is tea (daily) or diet soda (not daily, but too often for her health).
What does she have against sweet tea and regular soda? And she's 54, if she starts drinking 5 diet sodas a day right now it probably won't hurt her a bit.
Because regular soda is corporate poison that sucks the calcium out of your bones.
This is coming from someone who still drinks said poison.
She needs to start cooking with saturated fats that will supply her with enough calories for her body to pack on muscle and fat. Have her replace her cooking oils with extra virgin olive oil, or where it can work, butter. Second, have her eat a heaping tablespoon of all-natural peanut butter with every meal—that alone is over 600 calories a day of healthy fats and proteins. She’ll also need lots of healthy fruits and vegetables at every meal.
Weight gaining supplements will only work if she actually engages in enough serious weight training to gain muscle, and at her age she’ll need to hire a trainer to pull that off. If her doctors and dietitians suggest otherwise it’s because they’re still preaching outdated junk science and too lazy to crack a good book written in the last decade years.
carbs can a be a very very healthy way to put on weight. Lots and Lots of bread for starters, more noodle related dinners might want to look at that end, its tastier and not un-healthy but can cause people to sky rocket in weight if they are not careful.
This thread required one reply, eat more food. Drinking some ensure will do nothing.
Doesn't really work for some people. Case in point, my girlfriend, who has a very small stomach and high metabolism.
If she ate my quantities she'd hurl.
She can work her way up to eating more, also she needs to eat lots of small meals over the day. I know this isn't a miracle success story or anything but I was under 140 pounds and now I am up to 165.
Like others have suggested, she should switch from diet sodas to whole milk, or homemade milkshakes or smoothies. If she doesn't want to be drinking soda because it's 'bad' for her, then get to to drink juice. Tea should be milked and sugared... well, everything should be.
Ok so shakes made with whole milk can probably be done. Maybe some PB&J sandwiches too.
I don't really know her weekly diet. I live in CA and she lives in NY. When I live at home this would be a sample day:
Morning: 2x slice of toast + real butter + tea
Lunch: a donut or pie or cake piece
Dinner: Whatever I was eating in small proportion (chicken, chili, rice, whatever)
Snack: cup of icecream or see lunch
Wow I am having a hard time. I suppose I will just ask her to log her food for a week.
This thread required one reply, eat more food. Drinking some ensure will do nothing.
Doesn't really work for some people. Case in point, my girlfriend, who has a very small stomach and high metabolism.
If she ate my quantities she'd hurl.
She can work her way up to eating more, also she needs to eat lots of small meals over the day. I know this isn't a miracle success story or anything but I was under 140 pounds and now I am up to 165.
My girlfriend already eats small meals throughout the day. She gets in anywhere between 1100 to 1500 calories and I'd say she's at a pretty healthy weight (wouldn't want to go lower obviously), but according to the BMI, she is underweight.
Ensure also comes in a sort of yogurt form - in a little plastic tub, tastes sort of like sweetened condensed milk and looks like axel grease (according to my father). That might be preferrable in taste to the shakes, but I can't imagine it costs less.
Make sure she's eating plenty of protien rich food. Go to a dietician, and ask them what she needs to be eating as well as the ensure, so that they don't just say "ensure". She has to eat other meals - what should those be.
Eggs! Eggs for breakfast is a good one, and is quick, easy, and goes well with toast.
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To the people advising OP to just eat more - if she's that skinny, it's likel that she has some combination of a small stomach and fast metabolism. To eat herself to the point of being ill on fatty foods may be a favored past time for us video gamers, but I have to think it'd be even more unpleasant for her than drinking ensure shakes.
Asking at GNC is also probably a terrible idea. They are not doctors or dieticians. They are salesmen. Salesmen who's job is to sell you overpices supplements that you probably don't need and may or may not actually be any good for you. Some of the people there probably have some real interest in health and that sort of stuff, but as a general rule, I wouldn't expect quality dietary advice any more from them than I do computer and electronics advice from the people at Best Buy and Circuit City, in fact I expect less, because I'm pretty sure the GNC people are on commission.
Taking a proper look at your diet and trying to correct it with real food should always be the first step in fixing weigh issues and dietary needs. Supplements, as I said, are just to supplement an already good diet and I would argue are not needed probably 99% of the time. If she truly does feel that eating properly and paying attention to what is being eaten are not working then she should be talking to a doctor, not a salesman at a questionable supplements store.
People at GNC actually nutritionists? My experience with the place is that they staff it with kids. My experience is limited to only one store though.
I host a podcast about movies.
As to the shakes, how long has she actually tried taking them? When I'm working out seriously I do take a protein shake immediately after work outs. Any time I switch brands it tastes absolutely terrible to me for a week or two, but I adjust to it over time and am usually enjoying it by the time I'm done with whatever I bought and try to get the same brand again.
As to other shakes she might try, see if a walmart or whatever near you carries myoplex (not myoplex light). That shit is chock full of calories, has vitamins, quality carbs, protein, etc. I don't know if it tastes any better than ensure or not since I have never drank ensure.
Sorry if my first post was not terribly helpful. Whenever these diet questions come up, my first assumption is that the person is not actually reading the labels and paying attention to what they eat, because 99% of the time that is the case.
Right, but this isn't the main question.
Does she eat enough to begin with?
A doctor prescribed Ensure to my grandmother as well, but that's because she stopped eating as much as she should due to depression. In that case, eating was absolutely preferable, but since she wasn't going to do it the Ensure came in.
I know it sounds like we're harping here or being dense, but eating more if it's possible is absolutely the best solution, and doctors are often forced to work around habits that patients won't change.
What does she have against sweet tea and regular soda? And she's 54, if she starts drinking 5 diet sodas a day right now it probably won't hurt her a bit.
I host a podcast about movies.
Post the weekly menu and I can be more helpful.
Because regular soda is corporate poison that sucks the calcium out of your bones.
This is coming from someone who still drinks said poison.
Doesn't really work for some people. Case in point, my girlfriend, who has a very small stomach and high metabolism.
If she ate my quantities she'd hurl.
Weight gaining supplements will only work if she actually engages in enough serious weight training to gain muscle, and at her age she’ll need to hire a trainer to pull that off. If her doctors and dietitians suggest otherwise it’s because they’re still preaching outdated junk science and too lazy to crack a good book written in the last decade years.
Like others have suggested, she should switch from diet sodas to whole milk, or homemade milkshakes or smoothies. If she doesn't want to be drinking soda because it's 'bad' for her, then get to to drink juice. Tea should be milked and sugared... well, everything should be.
I don't really know her weekly diet. I live in CA and she lives in NY. When I live at home this would be a sample day:
Morning: 2x slice of toast + real butter + tea
Lunch: a donut or pie or cake piece
Dinner: Whatever I was eating in small proportion (chicken, chili, rice, whatever)
Snack: cup of icecream or see lunch
Wow I am having a hard time. I suppose I will just ask her to log her food for a week.
My girlfriend already eats small meals throughout the day. She gets in anywhere between 1100 to 1500 calories and I'd say she's at a pretty healthy weight (wouldn't want to go lower obviously), but according to the BMI, she is underweight.
Absolutely the best course of action. She might be eating enough, she might not. Either way, you'll at least have knocked out the obvious.
Make sure she's eating plenty of protien rich food. Go to a dietician, and ask them what she needs to be eating as well as the ensure, so that they don't just say "ensure". She has to eat other meals - what should those be.
Eggs! Eggs for breakfast is a good one, and is quick, easy, and goes well with toast.