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[Recommend ON] Survival Games

Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Games and Technology
You know the kind. Land on desert island, find food and water, build tent, build slightly better tent, and so on and so forth. Balancing needs, development and exploration.

As far as platforms go, ideally I'd like PC or DS, but PS2 or Wii/Gamecube would also be acceptable.

Stuff I already played

Stranded 2: Freeware first-person desert island game. Fun for a while, but suffers from having too little to do other than harvesting building materials, and has a horrible building mechanic (right click 50 times to build hut, etc).

Notrium: Freeware top-down alien planet survival. This is more like it. Starting with a few odds and ends, you go on to fashion weapons and gadgets to fight off aliens and get off the planet. Download here if you're interested

I've heard of some shareware game called UnReal World, but it looked really intimidating so I never tried it.

Any suggestions? I'm guessing there's been a few threads like this one before.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There were a couple of PS2 games about surviving natural catastophies- an earthquake and a flood, I believe.

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  • Trevor GoodchildTrevor Goodchild Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    UnReal World is fairly complicated and expensive last time I looked :| but it is also really fun, I've played it off and on for years now. Having to treat your wounds, gather food, stay warm and slay your enemies amongst other things makes it the best survival game I've ever played.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    UnReal World is fairly complicated and expensive last time I looked :| but it is also really fun, I've played it off and on for years now. Having to treat your wounds, gather food, stay warm and slay your enemies amongst other things makes it the best survival game I've ever played.

    Could you tell me a little more about it? I've not heard how it actually plays, if you get my meaning.

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    UnReal World is fairly complicated and expensive last time I looked :| but it is also really fun, I've played it off and on for years now. Having to treat your wounds, gather food, stay warm and slay your enemies amongst other things makes it the best survival game I've ever played.
    Ah! I was WONDERING where the half-naked axe-wielding swedish dude in my dreams was coming from!

    On-topic, supposedly the Lost in Blue games or whatever the hell they're called for the DS are good, at least enough for there to be two sequals last I checked. If you're a real retro nut the Survival Kids game for the old-school gameboy color was also decent (though they never localized the second game to my knowledge, a pity).

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I second Lost in Blue and LiB 2 for DS or Survival Kids and SK 2 for GB(C?) There is also a Lost in Blue game for the Wii IIRC.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    PC: Dwarf Fortress

    Pretty much what it sounds like. Start with a small group of dwarves, deal with immigrants and goblin invasions, drink beer and build deathtraps for your nobles. The ASCII graphics can be offputting to some people, although there are fanmade tilesets, too.

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  • X Pr3dat0R XX Pr3dat0R X Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I've been looking at Dwarf Fortress a bit and it looks really complicated to start with but looks quite fun too

    also, as a small point, in the title it should be "recommend" not "reccomend" :)

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Oregon Trail

    :P

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  • JaltosJaltos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I've been looking at Dwarf Fortress a bit and it looks really complicated to start with but looks quite fun too

    also, as a small point, in the title it should be "recommend" not "reccomend" :)

    The Dwarf fortress moto is "Losing is fun"! The only thing to remember in Dwarf fortress is that there IS a pause button. If you're not sure of the controls, pause and open the menu with tab to find your actions.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm surprised there haven't been more of these games!

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  • InzignaInzigna Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I would think an MMO made around this genre would be quite fun to play.

    For a while at least.

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Jaltos wrote: »
    I've been looking at Dwarf Fortress a bit and it looks really complicated to start with but looks quite fun too

    also, as a small point, in the title it should be "recommend" not "reccomend" :)

    The Dwarf fortress moto is "Losing is fun"! The only thing to remember in Dwarf fortress is that there IS a pause button. If you're not sure of the controls, pause and open the menu with tab to find your actions.

    True, it may seem complex at first, but after a couple failures you can build a large empire.

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  • chocolovechocolove Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There's a Sims game where youre stranded on an island. It's not very hardcore but its sort of what youre talking about. It's for the DS by the way.

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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Return To Mysterious Island (name?) is a point/click adventure, but it fits your setting OP. It's also abundant with multiple solutions to problems and other perks courtesy of genre veterans The Adventure Company.

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Unreal World is pretty amazing if you can stand roguelikes. It's one of the best gaming experiences I've had. It's really complicated (at first) and hard (always), but rewarding.

    http://www.jmp.fi/~smaarane/urw.html

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Inzigna wrote: »
    I would think an MMO made around this genre would be quite fun to play.

    For a while at least.

    *cough* http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=63773 *cough*

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    UnReal World is fairly complicated and expensive last time I looked :| but it is also really fun, I've played it off and on for years now. Having to treat your wounds, gather food, stay warm and slay your enemies amongst other things makes it the best survival game I've ever played.

    Could you tell me a little more about it? I've not heard how it actually plays, if you get my meaning.

    Have you ever played a roguelike? It's like that, except it has graphics (albeit, crappy).

    You create a character by rolling your characters stats (and things like phobias) and then you put points in your skills (which range from fishing, cooking, timbercraft, hide work, tracking etc.).

    Then you're plopped down in this gigantic fucking world to survive in. You can pick a scenario, like you're a runaway slave with only the clothes on his back. Or you're on a hunting trip with your father when he's mauled by a bear and you have to survive (in general, but also that fucking bear or whatever killed him).

    Or you can just play freely. The freedom of the game is ridiculous. You can find a wife (I don't know if there are kids yet), build a home, be a fisherman, or live off hunting. You can be a trader. You can be a bandit who kills and steals from people. You can be a cannibal. You can live in a village. You can slaughter a village. You can be a crazy hermit who builds traps all around him so the animals and people alike fall and die in them. You can kill anyone and go anywhere you like. Different kinds of people and animals roam the world like you do, so it can make the game really random (and awesome).

    So much stuff you can do. So many ways to die.

    It's hard. Balls is it hard. If you're unprepared, most animals that aren't squirrels or beavers can kill you. A seemingly not-that-bad wound can fester and kill you if left untreated. Human opponents and large animals like bears are absolutely deadly. You can hit bad luck, like starving because you can't find a village and there are no fish biting. Hell, a plague can suddenly infect your area.

    The game is pure awesome, though.

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  • TzenTzen Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Resident Evil on the GC. Beautiful survival (horror) game.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    chocolove wrote: »
    There's a Sims game where youre stranded on an island. It's not very hardcore but its sort of what youre talking about. It's for the DS by the way.

    Was going to recommend this, it's called the Sims 2: Castaways. Also available on PS2 and Wii.

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  • freakish lightfreakish light butterdick jones and his heavenly asshole machineRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Jaltos wrote: »
    I've been looking at Dwarf Fortress a bit and it looks really complicated to start with but looks quite fun too

    also, as a small point, in the title it should be "recommend" not "reccomend" :)

    The Dwarf fortress moto is "Losing is fun"! The only thing to remember in Dwarf fortress is that there IS a pause button. If you're not sure of the controls, pause and open the menu with tab to find your actions.

    Check the Dwarf Fortress thread and the wiki at http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com/index.php/Main_Page if you're just starting out. There's a good list of stuff to take on your first fortress and kind of a primer to get you started.

    The ASCII graphics can be kind of intimidating at first, but eventually you feel like you can read those Matrix glyphs to see exactly what's going on in an instant. If you find any symbols you can't figure out, I think you can use the query tool to tell you what they are.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Notrium

    You crash land on an alien planet and have to survive. You need to find food and warmth and avoid the native wildlife all the while trying to survives, escape, and uncover the mysteries of the island. There's several different races each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Sounds almost exactly like what you're looking for.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    Notrium

    You crash land on an alien planet and have to survive. You need to find food and warmth and avoid the native wildlife all the while trying to survives, escape, and uncover the mysteries of the island. There's several different races each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Sounds almost exactly like what you're looking for.

    He listed this in the OP.:P

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Lord Yod wrote: »
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    Notrium

    You crash land on an alien planet and have to survive. You need to find food and warmth and avoid the native wildlife all the while trying to survives, escape, and uncover the mysteries of the island. There's several different races each with their own strengths and weaknesses. Sounds almost exactly like what you're looking for.

    He listed this in the OP.:P

    I...completely missed that. Glossed over it somehow. Go me :P

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I remember it being a pretty rad game, though, so it's probably worth mentioning twice.

    If you have NWN, I remember there being several mods out there that fit the bill.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There was a nifty little game called Schiffbruch a while back. It's pretty much what you describe. You're on a ship that crashes, and you wash up on a deserted island. You need to wander around to find food and water, and gather materials to build houses, or canoes, or other tools. Your goal is to get rescued, by building signs or signal pyres. It's really fun, I recommend it.

    You can find it here.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Well I'd heard of Lost in Blue and was considering it but I wanted to find out if it was actually any good or not.

    I've tried to play Dwarf Fortress quite a few times, but can never quite get into it. I can handle the interface fine but I lack the planning and imagination to make the likes of Boatmurdered or the underwater glass fortresses I've read about in the thread.

    Might try Schiffbruch again, played that once.

    I'll go ahead and mention Notrium again,, as a recommendation. If you do decide and play it, don't trade your radio to the hermit for a key, just kill him and take the key, and use his house as your own. Like Morrowind.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    chocolove wrote: »
    There's a Sims game where youre stranded on an island. It's not very hardcore but its sort of what youre talking about. It's for the DS by the way.

    Sims 2: Castaway is available for Wii, PS2, PSP and DS IIRC. It is a decent game, but might be lacking in the "survival" aspect as it really doesn't take much effort to survive. You really just have to do the right things to get out, but it is alot of fun to just wander around for a while.

    I would also like to throw up A Tale in the Desert, if you like crafting. While it is not a survival game per se, it does entail the usual, gathering, learning and forging of tools that you usually end up doing in a survival game. There is a PA thread, although it seems to be dead now: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=76468

    As far as Lost in Blue goes, I really liked it but I played Survival Kids and SK2 back "in the day" and essentially being a sequel, it was almost nostalgic for me. Basically if you are looking for a deserted island survival game with a decent story and corporate backing(i.e. polish(i.e. non indy game)) it is as good as you are going to get I figure.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I should probably mention that the setting of the game isn't important. Desert island, alien world, or co-op zombie survival with a group of players holed up in a building sneaking out for food and ammo while barricading against the undead (my dream game, come to think of it).

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Left 4 Dead?
    Dead Rising?
    Neither are really what you are looking for, but kind of sort of?

    I actually work with an indy developer and we have been throwing around the idea of your "dream game" for a while, it is something we have wanted to do forever but haven't quite figured out the best way to handle it.

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  • ClevingerClevinger Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    or co-op zombie survival with a group of players holed up in a building sneaking out for food and ammo while barricading against the undead (my dream game, come to think of it).

    There's something similar:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_Crisis_Z

    http://skasoftware.com/

    No co-op, though, I think.

    some gameplay:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol73B6siNUY&feature=related

    It's awesome, and now it's also free.

    It was made by the guy who's doing that x-box dishwasher samurai game.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Clevinger wrote: »
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    or co-op zombie survival with a group of players holed up in a building sneaking out for food and ammo while barricading against the undead (my dream game, come to think of it).
    *Survival Crisis Z*

    Gah, why didn't I think of that. It is a fun adventure shooter for a while, you may enjoy it thoroughly if that is what you are looking for. I had fun for a couple days playing it.

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    What was that web based zombie game? That's basically what you do, barricade inside a building and occasionally go out to find ammo and medical supplies.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    rayofash wrote: »
    What was that web based zombie game? That's basically what you do, barricade inside a building and occasionally go out to find ammo and medical supplies.

    Urban Dead
    www.urbandead.com

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Too bad SCZ doesn't work on Vista. :( Stupid driver issues.
    rayofash wrote: »
    What was that web based zombie game? That's basically what you do, barricade inside a building and occasionally go out to find ammo and medical supplies.
    That's Urban Dead, though it's rather light on the survival elements not to mention one of those so-many-actions-a-day games which might be undesireable.

    Although if you want to take a rather loose definition of a survival game, Left 4 Dead is a very good one. :D

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sorenson wrote: »
    Too bad SCZ doesn't work on Vista. :( Stupid driver issues.

    So I just discovered. There's no way around it huh. Damn.

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  • BroncbusterBroncbuster Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    WurmOnline?

    http://www.wurmonline.com/

    pretty fun, build a town with others, mine/chop/cook/whatever.

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  • SorensonSorenson Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    Sorenson wrote: »
    Too bad SCZ doesn't work on Vista. :( Stupid driver issues.

    So I just discovered. There's no way around it huh. Damn.
    It might be possible to get around the whole driver issue if you download and install the one it needs, but I haven't had the chance nor gall to try such a method out.

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  • AntithesisAntithesis Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dr Snofeld wrote: »
    Well I'd heard of Lost in Blue and was considering it but I wanted to find out if it was actually any good or not.

    Lost in Blue (the first) for the DS is a pretty good survival experience. I've only played the first one, but from what I understand, the second and third(?) don't change much.

    To summarize, it is really hard to keep yourself fed, energetic, and sheltered for the first few hours of play, until you can perfect fishing, get furniture, cook well, etc...

    Hunting and trapping felt difficult enough that I never really bothered with them unless I needed pelts, but exploring further out through the island was fun. (I will warn you though, there are points you will desperately want to keep going but will have to turn back to avoid starvation. And at least one fiendish water-block puzzle you will have to go to gameFAQs for.)

    If the main enjoyment you get from survival games is setting up a shelter and picking what goes where, you'll be a little disappointed- you only get the one cave 5 minutes in, and only get to build things as either you or your painfully stupid AI partner think of them or find the items to make them with.

    But really, in the end, I'd say it's worth the 20 bucks you'd pay for it.

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