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Fuck Sheriff Joe - Slouching Towards Facism Edition
AngelHedgie
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Oh, Joe, is there anything about democracy you don't hate?
A group of Maricopa residents worried that the good Sheriff's obsession with illegal immigration is, well, leaving the community in danger have been attending the county Board of Supervisors meetings in order to voice their concerns. In response, deputies now blanket the meeting room, comment time has been reduced, and, well, at a recent meeting, when people applauded someone speaking up against Sheriff Joe, the deputies arrested them.
Here's a video on this group.
At this point, I have no faith that there will be anything done to him on the state level. What needs to be done is that a solid, hardnosed prosecutor needs to be apponted to the US Attorney seat in Maricopa, and tasked to build a federal case against him. Because that this point, that seems to be what it's going to take to make him face justice.
A group of Maricopa residents worried that the good Sheriff's obsession with illegal immigration is, well, leaving the community in danger have been attending the county Board of Supervisors meetings in order to voice their concerns. In response, deputies now blanket the meeting room, comment time has been reduced, and, well, at a recent meeting, when people applauded someone speaking up against Sheriff Joe, the deputies arrested them.
Here's a video on this group.
At this point, I have no faith that there will be anything done to him on the state level. What needs to be done is that a solid, hardnosed prosecutor needs to be apponted to the US Attorney seat in Maricopa, and tasked to build a federal case against him. Because that this point, that seems to be what it's going to take to make him face justice.
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He's elected. He got 55% in November.
Weren't there a bunch of lawsuits against this guy? What happened with those? Maybe when the county starts getting hit with million dollar verdicts they'll wake up and toss this guy out.
Did you watch the video? You should, it's a good video.
One of the reasons he focuses on illegal immigrants is because it's good red meat that keeps him in office. As was pointed out, he won reelection with 55% of the vote, mainly because he does bullshit grandstanding.
Yeah - Maricopa County has had to pay out $44 million in rulings against Sheriff Joe.
Trust me, Sheriff Joe is EVIL. He breaks the law all the time, he profiles, his deputies have fucking MURDERED people, and nothing ever gets done. When I find it, I'll post the story about the time his deputies burned a couples dog alive in front of them. no joke.
The only thing that can bring this guy down now is Obama's new AG. Seriously, something needs to be fucking done.
Yeah, read the comments in the East Valley Tribune article. Some real "patriots" in there.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
I could put most of this shit into a book called "I am not making this up."
Joe's solution: Let's build a fucking tent city in fucking Arizona! That will work really well as a long term solution to the problem of overcrowding!!!
It'll be like camp, a camp where you can concentrate about what you've done wrong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwchWXWWAgQ
Except it's real, and it's state sanctioned. Oh, and did we mention the green bologna?
There's no possible way to compare that to the rage I feel when talking about this man.
Yeah, I lump Sheriff Joe into the same category as Fred Phelps.
THEY ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN THIS CATEGORY.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/99912
He had the editors of the New Times arrested for the stories they published about him.
What the fuck?
I mean its better than the 10x10 standing room only cell he puts you in before making it to the tent where you better not have to pee.
I'm so sorry guys. I'm gonna go raise that city to the ground right now as an act of contrition.
Getting elected
Edit: by which I mean, apparently this is what people there want from their sheriff. Wouldn't it be a greater victory of democracy for someone to beat this guy in an election than to have him thrown in jail?
Thanks, youtube's blocked for me.
Why do I get the feeling Arpaio's one of those who rail against "illegals are stealing your tax dollars!" while at the same time he's directly responsible for $44M being drained from the county's general fund?
For Democracy, yes. But if he's actually breaking the law, then he deserves jail time.
Want a speedy trial? Tough shit. Want decent food and water? Tough shit. Want a catheter that you need to urinate because you're in a wheelchair and if you don't get one your kidneys will literally explode? Tough shit.
The scariest thing, though, is that he is continually elected. People love it. It's terrifying.
Maybe he could commit a misdemeanor, get thrown into one of his own jails, and be thrown into a straight jacket, shot with tasers and pepper balls, and then be beaten and suffocated to death by the guards, ala Juan Farias.
I thought raids just involved busting down a door and arresting dudes. How do you burn down a house and roll over a car?
Armored vehicle:
Unless that thing has a flame thrower.
Man, it's so horrible that I am both serious and blase about the possiblity of local law enforcement purposefully setting some dude's house on fire
I still contend Reno threatened to charge in there butt naked causing the Davidians to burn themselves instead.
AKA the Southern argument against civil rights legislation.
Stuff like this is why I'm leery of federalism and adamantly opposed to local control over things like law enforcement, the courts and schools. There's a reason why First World societies with a strong national government avoid a lot of our country's problems.
Our country is set up so that the majority of the best and brightest get their educations and jobs in major metropolitan areas. That leaves the rural and secondary cities in the hands of folks of a widely variable degree of competence and moral fiber. Those folks get to decide how to educate and police their fellow citizens and often end up creating cycles of repression and stupidity. A national - or at least state-based - system would eliminate or at ameliorate a lot of these problems.
Don't you guys have something at least similar to the European Court of Human Rights? Or would the Supreme Court fill this role?
Maybe I should run for Sheriff and my stance will be no more jails. I'll just go out into the middle of the desert, build a 200 foot tall wall with only way in our out being air lifts. Meals will consist of a live cow being air lifted in and what happens happens. Oh...and Tents for everybody!
*Waits for 2012 so his reign of terror can legally begin*
There's the federal court system, but the path to it is somewhat convoluted and different federal districts have widely varying tolerances for hearing civil rights cases. The Supreme Court, as you mentioned, does handle some of these cases, but the Supremes only deal with a small handful of cases - around 100 - and tends to focus more on big picture rulings with wide scopes rather than individual violations of human rights.
There's also the fact that most civil rights violations must be handled as civil cases. The U.S. doesn't provide representation for civil complaints and, unless an attorney is willing to volunteer their time or feels there's a decent chance of getting paid through a settlement, a poor or even middle class defendant couldn't afford to bring a complaint.