OtakuD00DCan I hit the exploding rocks?San DiegoRegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
Nothing that leads directly to anything blatantly illegal. The translation patch for Alpha Gaiden was fine since we only brought up the game itself and mentioned the patch, which can work if you already own the game. For a cartridge-based game, it gets a hell of a lot sketchier. Best to only bring up the game itself once it's out.
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edited January 2009
Okay, yeah. I'm perfectly used to saying, "Here's the patch, find the game yourself."
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edited January 2009
Cool. I guess that works.
I should really pick Alpha Gaiden back again. I'm still in Scenario 39. Stopped after I let a nuke get away, and started working around that point in time.
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edited February 2009
HEADS UP. (f)Atlus confirms OG Saga: Endless Frontier coming in late April!
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edited February 2009
Looks like Atlus is sending a message.
Portable SRW only.
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edited February 2009
I dunno. Endless Frontier sounds like a nice game. If this one goes well, MAYBE we'll be seeing OGS/OGG.
The only one who has actually played this game and thus knows of its amazing lack of quality.
But sure! Go ahead and buy a crappy game with the SRW label slapped onto it to move a few copies! I'm sure you won't be disappointed if you just ignore the intense suck coming from the cartridge.
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I could argue that that's true for the series as a whole. Without the giant robots, what are you left with? An okay-at-best battle system. Plus, I'm not entirely sure it'll bring about the PS2 games, especially if it doesn't do that well.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
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It'll give you an okay idea of what the game looks like.
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edited February 2009
Meh. I'm still getting it. The system can't be that bad. It looked intriguing to me.
Anyway, I should really pick @G back up. I stopped not long after I started work. Still in mission 39, stopped specifically when one fricking nuke managed to get away from me. AAAAAGH!
I hvae K figgured out. Zoids Genesis will be my "Boss Borat" patroll, much like how "Voltron" was my BBPatroll in Z.
Yes, I basicly armour and Health those guys out and send them to thier deaths. To hell with stratagy on that one, unless they're needed to win the mission I send all series I hate out to die.
That'll Teach Voltron to cause GaoGaiGar's Dub to get canceled.
EDIT: Hang on, is the Jeeg Remake realy three years old? I was under the impression that the three year embargo was in effect for the handheld games...
I hvae K figgured out. Zoids Genesis will be my "Boss Borat" patroll, much like how "Voltron" was my BBPatroll in Z.
Yes, I basicly armour and Health those guys out and send them to thier deaths. To hell with stratagy on that one, unless they're needed to win the mission I send all series I hate out to die.
That'll Teach Voltron to cause GaoGaiGar's Dub to get canceled.
EDIT: Hang on, is the Jeeg Remake realy three years old? I was under the impression that the three year embargo was in effect for the handheld games...
I hvae K figgured out. Zoids Genesis will be my "Boss Borat" patroll, much like how "Voltron" was my BBPatroll in Z.
Yes, I basicly armour and Health those guys out and send them to thier deaths. To hell with stratagy on that one, unless they're needed to win the mission I send all series I hate out to die.
That'll Teach Voltron to cause GaoGaiGar's Dub to get canceled.\
I could argue that that's true for the series as a whole. Without the giant robots, what are you left with? An okay-at-best battle system. Plus, I'm not entirely sure it'll bring about the PS2 games, especially if it doesn't do that well.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
It's about quite a few things actually. The licenses, the music and the amusing scenario. Actual combat is pretty fun as well in the harder games where you feel a decent amount of pressure to both kill all the enemies on the map AND get the skill point. OG, on the other hand, is SRW without the redeeming features. No classic music, no interesting scenario and it's all just video game music. I wouldn't say the gameplay is anymore balanced than a real SRW either.
Man, I just totally made myself want to replay Z Big-O, Turn-A, Gravion, God Mars, no GaoGaiGar... so fucking awesome (D had a better lineup but...).
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K has had its release date moved forward from April 2nd to March 20th btw.
If the second PV is any indication K is looking really good. Gun x Sword, more King Gainer, SEED Destiny, Stargazer, Virtual On, and Dangaioh. And I'm actually kind of glad CE is the only Gundam universe represented in K. In Z there was the Double X, GX Divider, Turn A, Destiny/Impulse/Legend, Zeta, and Nu Gundam. Too many Gundams I wanted to use, so it's nice only having to worry about a few this time. Strike Noir, Destiny, and Impulse.
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I could argue that that's true for the series as a whole. Without the giant robots, what are you left with? An okay-at-best battle system. Plus, I'm not entirely sure it'll bring about the PS2 games, especially if it doesn't do that well.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
It's about quite a few things actually. The licenses, the music and the amusing scenario. Actual combat is pretty fun as well in the harder games where you feel a decent amount of pressure to both kill all the enemies on the map AND get the skill point. OG, on the other hand, is SRW without the redeeming features. No classic music, no interesting scenario and it's all just video game music. I wouldn't say the gameplay is anymore balanced than a real SRW either.
Man, I just totally made myself want to replay Z Big-O, Turn-A, Gravion, God Mars, no GaoGaiGar... so fucking awesome (D had a better lineup but...).
I actually rather like the OG games. Plenty of the music has become classic (and honestly a lot of giant-robot anime have utterly awful music anyway so the fact that it's not from an anime doesn't in any coherent way make it any worse) as indicated, the scenario is basically the same scenario as the Alpha series so clearly Alpha didn't have an interesting scenario either, and I miss some of the mechanics playing Alpha Gaiden that I'd come to love exploiting in OG. And really despite the lack of licenses they still manage to represent every important giant-robot archetype well. I'd love it if they'd give me Alpha 2 and 3 localizations, but I'm not about to dump on OG over it.
I could argue that that's true for the series as a whole. Without the giant robots, what are you left with? An okay-at-best battle system. Plus, I'm not entirely sure it'll bring about the PS2 games, especially if it doesn't do that well.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
It's about quite a few things actually. The licenses, the music and the amusing scenario. Actual combat is pretty fun as well in the harder games where you feel a decent amount of pressure to both kill all the enemies on the map AND get the skill point. OG, on the other hand, is SRW without the redeeming features. No classic music, no interesting scenario and it's all just video game music. I wouldn't say the gameplay is anymore balanced than a real SRW either.
Man, I just totally made myself want to replay Z Big-O, Turn-A, Gravion, God Mars, no GaoGaiGar... so fucking awesome (D had a better lineup but...).
I actually rather like the OG games. Plenty of the music has become classic (and honestly a lot of giant-robot anime have utterly awful music anyway so the fact that it's not from an anime doesn't in any coherent way make it any worse) as indicated, the scenario is basically the same scenario as the Alpha series so clearly Alpha didn't have an interesting scenario either, and I miss some of the mechanics playing Alpha Gaiden that I'd come to love exploiting in OG. And really despite the lack of licenses they still manage to represent every important giant-robot archetype well. I'd love it if they'd give me Alpha 2 and 3 localizations, but I'm not about to dump on OG over it.
OG is just an imitation of a real SRW game. No, the BGM for OG may be meant to mimic real music, but it's not classic in the same way that the theme to Mazinger or even CCA is. The scenario from OG takes a single plotline from the alpha/classic games and expands on it. For example, in Alpha 2, the original story was not any more important than the Daimos, UC Gundam or GaoGaiGar plots. In Alpha 3 the original story plays second fiddle to Gunbuster and Ideon.
Which actually, leads to the point that I think that the robot designs for originals are pretty cool (particularly Bandeios and SRX). But, it's too much of the same in OG, even if they try to have a wide variety of designs. I think in Alpha 3 the really cool original robot actually was actually designed by the guy who does art for Megami Tensei, and not the inhouse guy they usually use.
Then again, a lot this does come down to the only localized games being OG.
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OtakuD00DCan I hit the exploding rocks?San DiegoRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
What's this "Real SRW" crap? They're still very solid SRW games and play just as well, even better in some cases. They're just not like the regular ones, in which these compile all the original designs/storylines into their own universe. It's nice to see the original plots take center strage and develop more, drawing from the alpha timeline as well as the original, and bits and pieces from the other side games.
SRW's original music able to stand on its own and its following keeps on growing. GONG, Hagane no Messiah, Skill, TROMBE, Winds of La Gias, etc. They're all great songs.
You just like the licensed shows. It's fine, but your bias isn't giving the OG games any chance at all. The Squad system isn't around because there just aren't enough mechs or characters (Yet) to justify it. Give it time. At least OGS gave you the Twin Battle System, which was a step closer to that. OG/OG2/OGS/OGG's equipment system was great too. Especially with how OGS (Not sure if OGG did it too) introduced ammo types to make your weapons even better.
What's this "Real SRW" crap? They're still very solid SRW games and play just as well, even better in some cases. They're just not like the regular ones, in which these compile all the original designs/storylines into their own universe. It's nice to see the original plots take center strage and develop more, drawing from the alpha timeline as well as the original, and bits and pieces from the other side games.
SRW's original music able to stand on its own and its following keeps on growing. GONG, Hagane no Messiah, Skill, TROMBE, Winds of La Gias, etc. They're all great songs.
You just like the licensed shows. It's fine, but your bias isn't giving the OG games any chance at all. The Squad system isn't around because there just aren't enough mechs or characters (Yet) to justify it. Give it time. At least OGS gave you the Twin Battle System, which was a step closer to that. OG/OG2/OGS/OGG's equipment system was great too. Especially with how OGS (Not sure if OGG did it too) introduced ammo types to make your weapons even better.
Really solid stuff.
It's not like I bought OGS thinking I would hate the game. I did expect Banpresto to produce a better script for the OG games than the Alpha games because of the tremendous amount of creative control they had and I was let down spectacularly. The way I saw it, if Alpha is just glorified fanfiction, then surely Banpresto could do much better making an original story. OGS made me appreciate that being forced to follow original scripts actually helped the SRW game's writing more than it hurt it. Really, I tried to like this game. I played all the way through to mission 25 or so of the second game before I just couldn't take anymore of excellen telling the same stupid jokes over and over again and over and over again. The gameplay is fine, and the music (although nothing special) was inoffensive. But the writing was an abortion of nature. But the bulk of the is in the script!
In general, SRW is a pretty much broken strategy game, where the real game is in collecting skill points. The squad system from Alpha is pretty bad, but Z improved on it a lot. The twin system is broken, but you're never forced to use it. The game I actually like the best is D, where you have to really think about the terrain or you'll end up dead.
I could argue that that's true for the series as a whole. Without the giant robots, what are you left with? An okay-at-best battle system. Plus, I'm not entirely sure it'll bring about the PS2 games, especially if it doesn't do that well.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
It's about quite a few things actually. The licenses, the music and the amusing scenario. Actual combat is pretty fun as well in the harder games where you feel a decent amount of pressure to both kill all the enemies on the map AND get the skill point. OG, on the other hand, is SRW without the redeeming features. No classic music, no interesting scenario and it's all just video game music. I wouldn't say the gameplay is anymore balanced than a real SRW either.
Man, I just totally made myself want to replay Z Big-O, Turn-A, Gravion, God Mars, no GaoGaiGar... so fucking awesome (D had a better lineup but...).
I actually rather like the OG games. Plenty of the music has become classic (and honestly a lot of giant-robot anime have utterly awful music anyway so the fact that it's not from an anime doesn't in any coherent way make it any worse) as indicated, the scenario is basically the same scenario as the Alpha series so clearly Alpha didn't have an interesting scenario either, and I miss some of the mechanics playing Alpha Gaiden that I'd come to love exploiting in OG. And really despite the lack of licenses they still manage to represent every important giant-robot archetype well. I'd love it if they'd give me Alpha 2 and 3 localizations, but I'm not about to dump on OG over it.
OG is just an imitation of a real SRW game. No, the BGM for OG may be meant to mimic real music, but it's not classic in the same way that the theme to Mazinger or even CCA is. The scenario from OG takes a single plotline from the alpha/classic games and expands on it. For example, in Alpha 2, the original story was not any more important than the Daimos, UC Gundam or GaoGaiGar plots. In Alpha 3 the original story plays second fiddle to Gunbuster and Ideon.
Which actually, leads to the point that I think that the robot designs for originals are pretty cool (particularly Bandeios and SRX). But, it's too much of the same in OG, even if they try to have a wide variety of designs. I think in Alpha 3 the really cool original robot actually was actually designed by the guy who does art for Megami Tensei, and not the inhouse guy they usually use.
Then again, a lot this does come down to the only localized games being OG.
I hvae K figgured out. Zoids Genesis will be my "Boss Borat" patroll, much like how "Voltron" was my BBPatroll in Z.
Yes, I basicly armour and Health those guys out and send them to thier deaths. To hell with stratagy on that one, unless they're needed to win the mission I send all series I hate out to die.
That'll Teach Voltron to cause GaoGaiGar's Dub to get canceled.\
But the GoLion crew and Guy are totally BFFs.
I'm sorry what? Baron Ashua just got his ass handed to him by a bunch of Bonta-kuns? That's toatly more intresting than the entire Go-lion "Storyline".
They should do a game like this with a robot franchise I recognize. Specifically, G1 Transformers. All glass gas, "Me Grimlock", and Omega Supreme wrecking Decepticons.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
edited February 2009
That would be all kinds of epic. Devastator against Evangelions.
They should do a game like this with a robot franchise I recognize. Specifically, G1 Transformers. All glass gas, "Me Grimlock", and Omega Supreme wrecking Decepticons.
The rights for Transformers are owned by Takara. A company that's basically Banpresto's rival.
So yeah, little hope for that.
But then again, they also own the rights to Zoids...
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They should do a game like this with a robot franchise I recognize. Specifically, G1 Transformers. All glass gas, "Me Grimlock", and Omega Supreme wrecking Decepticons.
The rights for Transformers are owned by Terada. A company that's basically Banpresto's rival.
So yeah, little hope for that.
But then again, they also own the rights to Zoids...
Don't forget that Takara owns Transformers, and they're business rivals of Bandai. We're lucky to get Gao Gai Gar in SRW.
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I should really pick Alpha Gaiden back again. I'm still in Scenario 39. Stopped after I let a nuke get away, and started working around that point in time.
Portable SRW only.
As someone who owns the original Japanese version, it's not. Really really not.
Even when they (C)'d the name, I had my doubts. But they are no more. This is, to say the least, awesome.
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The only one who has actually played this game and thus knows of its amazing lack of quality.
But sure! Go ahead and buy a crappy game with the SRW label slapped onto it to move a few copies! I'm sure you won't be disappointed if you just ignore the intense suck coming from the cartridge.
On the other hand, this is SUPER ROBOT WARS! You MUST keep your spirits up, for the moment you let go it will be the end! </rousing speech>
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Not worth buying what was really a pretty terribad game in the hopes that maybe Atlus will possibly then localize a game I did enjoy.
Then I heard it's pretty awful. A shame.
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Anyway, I should really pick @G back up. I stopped not long after I started work. Still in mission 39, stopped specifically when one fricking nuke managed to get away from me. AAAAAGH!
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=81416&page=2
Although this thread is much better.
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Making sure 2D animation in games stays awesome.
Yes, I basicly armour and Health those guys out and send them to thier deaths. To hell with stratagy on that one, unless they're needed to win the mission I send all series I hate out to die.
That'll Teach Voltron to cause GaoGaiGar's Dub to get canceled.
EDIT: Hang on, is the Jeeg Remake realy three years old? I was under the impression that the three year embargo was in effect for the handheld games...
But the GoLion crew and Guy are totally BFFs.
It's about quite a few things actually. The licenses, the music and the amusing scenario. Actual combat is pretty fun as well in the harder games where you feel a decent amount of pressure to both kill all the enemies on the map AND get the skill point. OG, on the other hand, is SRW without the redeeming features. No classic music, no interesting scenario and it's all just video game music. I wouldn't say the gameplay is anymore balanced than a real SRW either.
Man, I just totally made myself want to replay Z
Sorry, it just had to be done...
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If the second PV is any indication K is looking really good. Gun x Sword, more King Gainer, SEED Destiny, Stargazer, Virtual On, and Dangaioh. And I'm actually kind of glad CE is the only Gundam universe represented in K. In Z there was the Double X, GX Divider, Turn A, Destiny/Impulse/Legend, Zeta, and Nu Gundam. Too many Gundams I wanted to use, so it's nice only having to worry about a few this time. Strike Noir, Destiny, and Impulse.
I actually rather like the OG games. Plenty of the music has become classic (and honestly a lot of giant-robot anime have utterly awful music anyway so the fact that it's not from an anime doesn't in any coherent way make it any worse) as indicated, the scenario is basically the same scenario as the Alpha series so clearly Alpha didn't have an interesting scenario either, and I miss some of the mechanics playing Alpha Gaiden that I'd come to love exploiting in OG. And really despite the lack of licenses they still manage to represent every important giant-robot archetype well. I'd love it if they'd give me Alpha 2 and 3 localizations, but I'm not about to dump on OG over it.
Argument overwritten.
Xiaomu is just Excellen with fireballs and a sword anyway.
Not that there's anything wrong with more Excellens.
OG is just an imitation of a real SRW game. No, the BGM for OG may be meant to mimic real music, but it's not classic in the same way that the theme to Mazinger or even CCA is. The scenario from OG takes a single plotline from the alpha/classic games and expands on it. For example, in Alpha 2, the original story was not any more important than the Daimos, UC Gundam or GaoGaiGar plots. In Alpha 3 the original story plays second fiddle to Gunbuster and Ideon.
Which actually, leads to the point that I think that the robot designs for originals are pretty cool (particularly Bandeios and SRX). But, it's too much of the same in OG, even if they try to have a wide variety of designs. I think in Alpha 3 the really cool original robot actually was actually designed by the guy who does art for Megami Tensei, and not the inhouse guy they usually use.
Then again, a lot this does come down to the only localized games being OG.
SRW's original music able to stand on its own and its following keeps on growing. GONG, Hagane no Messiah, Skill, TROMBE, Winds of La Gias, etc. They're all great songs.
You just like the licensed shows. It's fine, but your bias isn't giving the OG games any chance at all. The Squad system isn't around because there just aren't enough mechs or characters (Yet) to justify it. Give it time. At least OGS gave you the Twin Battle System, which was a step closer to that. OG/OG2/OGS/OGG's equipment system was great too. Especially with how OGS (Not sure if OGG did it too) introduced ammo types to make your weapons even better.
Really solid stuff.
...on a Taurus.
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It's not like I bought OGS thinking I would hate the game. I did expect Banpresto to produce a better script for the OG games than the Alpha games because of the tremendous amount of creative control they had and I was let down spectacularly. The way I saw it, if Alpha is just glorified fanfiction, then surely Banpresto could do much better making an original story. OGS made me appreciate that being forced to follow original scripts actually helped the SRW game's writing more than it hurt it. Really, I tried to like this game. I played all the way through to mission 25 or so of the second game before I just couldn't take anymore of excellen telling the same stupid jokes over and over again and over and over again. The gameplay is fine, and the music (although nothing special) was inoffensive. But the writing was an abortion of nature. But the bulk of the is in the script!
In general, SRW is a pretty much broken strategy game, where the real game is in collecting skill points. The squad system from Alpha is pretty bad, but Z improved on it a lot. The twin system is broken, but you're never forced to use it. The game I actually like the best is D, where you have to really think about the terrain or you'll end up dead.
Oh god another crawfishy.
The rights for Transformers are owned by Takara. A company that's basically Banpresto's rival.
So yeah, little hope for that.
Don't forget that Takara owns Transformers, and they're business rivals of Bandai. We're lucky to get Gao Gai Gar in SRW.