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There's a running list somewhere of all the ridiculous things I've done, and a new one was just added to it. Since part of my Christmas gifts was a bunch of cash, I just went ahead and bought a refurbished iPhone at 4 AM while in another state. It was on super-sale at the AT&T website, which meant with all the discounts and rebates, it cost $50.
Except I need to call a number to actually confirm the purchase and identify myself (so AT&T can be sure nobody stole my identity). I have until Jan. 3rd to do this, or the order is automagically cancelled. So, your challenge: convince me to make that call and accept iPhone into my life. I've heard that even if your iPhone service stops, or you cancel it, all the non-phone-related stuff on it still works? And a $50 iPod touch is still neat, right?
go for it. The ipod touch is the best thing I have ever bought.
I only wish it had a phone in it.
If you jailbreak it, you will be in heaven.
There are a slew of awesome programs available with a jailbreak (like a hack, but legal). My favourite of which is mewseek. A p2p client for the iphone for music.
The reason I don't have a touch is because I already have an 80GB iPod classic, and I need the storage for all my media. Plus for on the go music navigation I prefer a one-handed click wheel. So it would really be for the phone and the internet apps, and even then more for the internet apps, as I hate phones and am only paying 30 a month for my no frills phone service as it is. I really only sprung for this because it was so damn cheap.
Is 70 bucks a month for phone and mobile internet worth it?
My wife adores her IPhone, and it really is ridiculously useful. It's like having a tiny little laptop at all times. One thing she has been having trouble with is that it will occasionally (and for no apparent reason) just stop working, and she then has to re-synch it with her computer.
I bought my Iphone not really sure what to expect. I heard all the ridiculous reviews and played with them a bit. I knew it looked cool and the feature list sounded great. Though I too have an Ipod Classic (160GB) so the Ipod feature within wasn't the primary reason for the Iphone purchase.
I must say that I would drop another $10-$20 a month for what this damned this does. It is honestly impossible, when discussing the iPhone, to not break down and sound like the biggest Apple whore ever.
Actual reasoning here is: it changes how you do things. You will use the phone for things you never even considered using a phone for, the apps range from practical, to entertaining to just downright ridiculous.
Example: the other day I was helping my gf hang pictures, and we couldn't get the frame level (and we had no actual level on hand). Well guess what, the phone has a level app. Download and calibrate it to a level surface and all of a sudden your phone just served the purpose of a level.
Ebook reader (Stanza), graphing calculator, notetaker, portable Pandora machine. This isn't even getting into the portable features that really help when you're on the road somewhere (the unmatched maps, looking up place names for phone numbers/reservations) or the budding gaming community getting behind this thing.
Simply put I use my phone probably 80% for data/internet and 20% for calls. My girlfriend is waiting on her contract to expire so she can get one as well. Though the biggest statement about this thing I can make, is that it's one of the few gadgets I've ever purchased that has totally blown me away and never left me wanting anything (except nationwide wifi =/)
If you pop out the SIM card you've got a "touch" that can call 911 in an emergency. You can even use "Fring" to make Skype -> Skype calls for free.
I love my iPhone, I know the plans are much more reasonably priced then here, so make sure you get a data plan. Having totally ubiquitous internet is really really cool. I don't have a desk job, so I love having the net with me everywhere I am.
It's a fantastic device, and you really can't beat that price. Go for it.
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"What are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Batman!"
Everyone I know with an iPhone seem ridiculously happy with it except, and this just my experience, a couple artists I know which seems terribly ironic.
Unfortunately, AT&T's customer service is being less than helpful, to the point where, even if I did want to go through with it, they won't let me. After an hour of negotiating phone trees and being transferred to closed departments, I'm being told that both of the addresses I provided for the account verification are wrong - that is, they don't match the ones I entered when I was ordering the damn thing, and that my order is being canceled. Which is patently ridiculous. Even if I had entered the addresses wrong - and I know my own address - I was reading them back from the order confirmation page I printed out for my records after I completed the initial order. If that's the level of customer service I can expect, chances are I don't want to deal with AT&T anyway.
that is unfortunate although I have never once had to deal with AT&T since I got my phone because it is so awesome. Also their website is super easy to use to pay the bill.
Same deal in Canada. Dealing with Fido to get my phone was a month of hell. I was on the phone with people everyday trying to find out WTF was going on.
But ever since I've gotten the phone, and straightened out my plan. I haven't spoken with them once, and the phone makes up for the month of hell.
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"What are you dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Batman!"
Actually, I had a hell of a time ordering a phone from AT&T. They kept not shipping it. I'd call, and they'd say it'd ship soon, and then it wouldn't. I ended up cancelling the order, walking into a store, and getting it. They quite helpfully transferred my contacts over to the phone and made sure it worked.
Honest to god, I like it a lot. It has GPS. I wouldn't have believed it if you told me how very much I'd like having a GPS all the time. Also it will suggest restaurants and (when it works) Google voice search is great.
The killer feature that I haven't used yet is an app that lets you take picture of an item's cover and it finds it on Amazon and et cetera. Be great for price comparisons.
I'm going to slightly hijack this thread and ask what you iphone owners are paying per month? I'm really wanting one, but I want to know what I'm really getting into before I buy one.
I have the original Iphone 400 minutes a month (never come close to going over because of free nights and weekends) unlimited texts (It might not be unlimited it might be 2000 or something but yeah I have never even come close.) and the data plan. It costs me 84$ a month after everything.
Before that I had a razor and it was 60$ a month. The upgrade was totally worth it.
I believe the original iPhones are any AT&T plan plus $20/month for unlimited data and 2000 texts. The 3G iPhones are $30/month for unlimited data and no text messages.
I love my iPhone. I got over the fact I can't accept picture texts rather quickly, as I really never got much. I've had a slight problem with now and then it doesn't work properly, but restoring it is a painless process.
Could you please elaborate on how you got this phone for $50? Mine just got stolen and a new 8GB is gonna cost $400 (and that requires restarting my contract, which I don't really care about). I'm not paying $400 for a phone, so my current plan is to cancel the AT&T.
Could you please elaborate on how you got this phone for $50? Mine just got stolen and a new 8GB is gonna cost $400 (and that requires restarting my contract, which I don't really care about). I'm not paying $400 for a phone, so my current plan is to cancel the AT&T.
I'm not sure how he got it for $50, but the refurbs went on sale for $100 for new customers only
if you're an existing customer it's $200 if you have an eligible upgrade, or $400 if you don't
Minimum price for an iPhone plan is $69.99/month (not $80), I believe. $39.99 for the basic voice plan, and another $30 for the (required) unlimited data plan.
It's really not bad for a smart phone, but still pretty expensive compared to your basic "I just want a phone" service.
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I pay $15 a month with Sprint for a basic voice plan with my phone. How do you guys rationalize paying $55+ a month for internet access and gadgets?
Because it is awesome What's wrong with having a toy?
Nothing, it's just that you're paying so much to use it. $55 a month could buy you a new video game every month. Save a few months and you could buy a dedicated mp3 player or gps. Or use the money towards an MMO and still have some left over for a nice dinner every month.
That's $660 a year you're paying to play with an iphone! That's an expensive toy you're renting!
I pay $15 a month with Sprint for a basic voice plan with my phone. How do you guys rationalize paying $55+ a month for internet access and gadgets?
Yeah, but you're also on Sprint. I've been on Sprint. Sprint sucks. It sucks quite a lot.
Anyway, to counter your reasoning--"because we want to". For me, I like the iPhone because I carry three things in my pockets: My wallet, my keys, and my cell phone. I don't take anything else with me when I leave the house. It wouldn't be comfortable or practical for me.
Having all of those features you talked about in one device--MP3, GPS, and most importantly, being able to access the web and e-mail from anywhere, is pretty fucking awesome. Because then I actually have them. Whereas otherwise I would not.
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edited December 2008
To start, I'm posting this from my iPhone. I love this phone. I was skeptical about how much I would use the net but damn if I don't use it all the time. Having google street view is a nice feature too. There are some deffinite areas for improvement though. The camera could be sooo much better. I would sacrifice the thinness of the phone a bit for a 4 megapixel camera with an optical zoom and flash. Also I would love built in multi app running. Thing about the iPhone, and other smart phones is that they are pretty much a computer in your hands that makes phonecalls. I love having one device that let's me make calls, surf the web, take photos and watch movies. All with a great interface. I can only hope that the next version of the phone improves on the shortcomings to make a truly great device.
I pay $15 a month with Sprint for a basic voice plan with my phone. How do you guys rationalize paying $55+ a month for internet access and gadgets?
Yeah, but you're also on Sprint. I've been on Sprint. Sprint sucks. It sucks quite a lot.
Anyway, to counter your reasoning--"because we want to". For me, I like the iPhone because I carry three things in my pockets: My wallet, my keys, and my cell phone. I don't take anything else with me when I leave the house. It wouldn't be comfortable or practical for me.
Having all of those features you talked about in one device--MP3, GPS, and most importantly, being able to access the web and e-mail from anywhere, is pretty fucking awesome. Because then I actually have them. Whereas otherwise I would not.
The problem with all-in-one devices is they're not especially good at anything. As an internet browser, it can't handle java or flash, the screen is small, and browsing the web is a lot slower than on a computer. As a mp3 player it doesn't have much storage so you can't carry a lot of music, and you're not free to listen to it as much as you want since if you drain your battery there goes your life line. And as a phone itself.. a friend of mine says he gets really shitty reception unless he's outside. My phone gets better reception than him.
I've heard that the iphone battery dies quickly too, and that people have to be careful about how much time they surf the web, play games, or listen to music, or they won't have a phone at the end of the day. Searching for real user's iphone battery life times, the first hit has:
•Browsing with 3G: approximately 3 hours
•Talking: approx 6 h
•Regular use, involving lots of phone calls, some browsing and some media usage: less than 6 h
Like you, I carry my wallet, keys, phone, but I also carry an mp3 player. My phone is not a brick like the iphone, allowing me to carry another device which allows me to listen to music as much as I want, and I won't drain it in a day.
I see your point that it's convenient to have all these devices in one, but do you see how limitations are introduced and now you have to meter your usage so you don't drain the battery? And when you think about it, do you really need internet access anywhere and a gps at all times? Why not simply a gps in your car? And stick to using the internet at home and work, or an internet cafe if you're desperate? Need to find a place to eat? Take a walk down the street and discover something new instead of looking down at your iphone and wasting time waiting for pages to load on a small screen.
I would have loved to have an iPhone, especially for the advertised price. The problem is not with the hardware. But AT&T's incompetence to let me actually purchase one is bordering on hilarious. I'm taking this experience as a warning against dealing with AT&T and spending the money instead on 4GB of RAM for my MacBook which is also portable and has internet access. I'll have to make do with my shitty Verizon phone until the next time AT&T has a similar sale where I might try ordering one again, but after all the stress I've gone through today trying (and failing) to just complete my initial order, I don't even want one anymore.
that's cool, you happen to live a lifestyle where having all of these functions on one device isn't necessary
for other people it is really useful
as far as battery life, try comparing those to other cell phones. 6 hours talk time is about what I get on my Pearl and what I got on my old Sony Ericsson. And that's 3G talk time on the iPhone (you should get about 9-10 hours on EDGE), which is somewhat unnecessary in the first place.
that's cool, you happen to live a lifestyle where having all of these functions on one device isn't necessary
for other people it is really useful
as far as battery life, try comparing those to other cell phones. 6 hours talk time is about what I get on my Pearl and what I got on my old Sony Ericsson. And that's 3G talk time on the iPhone (you should get about 9-10 hours on EDGE), which is somewhat unnecessary in the first place.
With less than 6 hours of battery life with regular use, you're not free to use it as you wish. You can't listen to music all day or surf the web for hours. As the day goes on and you see your battery falling below 50%, you have to stop and think if it's worth listening to music right now. That's not freedom! This device is holding you back. It's kind of like tying your balls to your ankle with no slack. You can only shuffle your feet to get around; you can't run and jump and roam free!
When you don't have enough battery life to do the things you want, I want you guys to imagine a string tied to your balls and Steve Jobs on the other end giving it a hard jerk. And then you hand him $55 and ask for more.
Yes, surfing the web on an iPhone a worse experience than browsing the internet on a computer. Unfortunately, I can't keep a computer in my pocket and whip it out any time I want. That's not a fault of it being an all-in-one device, but rather a fundamental limitation of mobile web browsing. You might not see the point of mobile web browsing, but I hope you can at least accept that other people do view it as desirable.
I personally have no complaints about the iPhone's battery life. I have never once had to conscientiously limit my usage to save battery power. Anecdotal evidence lol, I know, but that's no worse than "here's some numbers some dude gave me". And since it replaced my 4gb Nano, "not having enough space" isn't a complaint of mine. Hell, I prefer it over my old Nano since it has 8gb of space and what I consider to be a vastly improved interface.
You are allowed to not need or want a smartphone, but please don't automatically assume that a piece of hardware is lackluster simply because it is supposed to accomplish more than one task.
And seriously, stop this "$55" crap, you're comparing apples and oranges. Having an unlimited data plan costs $20 or $30 a month, depending on if you have an EDGE or 3G iPhone. Roughly half of the price difference you are citing comes from the fact that AT&T is more expensive than Sprint, mostly due to it having a higher level of entry for voice plans (I spent 5 minutes on the Sprint and AT&Ts websites: the cheapest basic new Sprint plan listed was $30/month for 200 minutes, the cheapest AT&T was $40 for 450). I was using AT&T back before I owned a smartphone, so I'm only paying $20 more now than I did before. For me personally, paying $20 per month to have the entire internet in my pocket is a hell of a deal, although I am able to understand that some people might not need or want the additional functionality that a smartphone provides.
that's cool, you happen to live a lifestyle where having all of these functions on one device isn't necessary
for other people it is really useful
as far as battery life, try comparing those to other cell phones. 6 hours talk time is about what I get on my Pearl and what I got on my old Sony Ericsson. And that's 3G talk time on the iPhone (you should get about 9-10 hours on EDGE), which is somewhat unnecessary in the first place.
With less than 6 hours of battery life with regular use, you're not free to use it as you wish. You can't listen to music all day or surf the web for hours. As the day goes on and you see your battery falling below 50%, you have to stop and think if it's worth listening to music right now. That's not freedom! This device is holding you back. It's kind of like tying your balls to your ankle with no slack. You can only shuffle your feet to get around; you can't run and jump and roam free!
When you don't have enough battery life to do the things you want, I want you guys to imagine a string tied to your balls and Steve Jobs on the other end giving it a hard jerk. And then you hand him $55 and ask for more.
If I wanted to sit around randomly surfing the web for hours at a time, I wouldn't be doing it in a place where I need to use my phone to do so. But, because it's available the rare times throughout the day or week that I do need it, my smartphone is really fucking useful
And, again, it's not six hours of regular use. Six hours talk time means six full hours that you are talking to your friends on your cell phone about how brilliant and wonderful you are for not buying an iPhone. I'm generally not on my phone for six hours every day, and if I am, I'll probably be at home or work for a period of time when I can just plug the damn thing in.
Not to mention listening to music is the least taxing thing you can do on your iPhone besides leaving it in your pocket, so I really don't think your battery life hitting 50% is going to dictate whether or not you listen to a couple of songs
I hated the iPhone. However, I needed to get a device that allowed me to communicate via gmail on the road, so I buckled. I now realize all my feelings were rooted in jealousy, largely in relation to the incredible amount of enthusiasm that people, unjustified or otherwise, felt for it.
However, once I got one for Christmas, I saw the error of my ways. My first act involved trolling the PA forums while shirt shopping with my girlfriend. My cognitive leaps told me I could also view porn from ANYWHERE, but I decided Nordstrom's after Christmas sale was probably not he best time or place.
I've been taxing the hell out of the damn thing and I really haven't seen it's battery drop that low. Honestly, I got two hours of talk time out of my Motorola Razr. I can get substantially more than that on my iPhone.
I get significantly more than 6 hours of battery life. Is that supposed to be 6 hours on non-stop use? Who uses their phone like that? Who would want to?
I can justify my iPhone like this: I am an adult with a job. I can spend my money the way I like. Nice things cost more money than okay things. I deserve a few nice things in my life.
I get significantly more than 6 hours of battery life. Is that supposed to be 6 hours on non-stop use? Who uses their phone like that? Who would want to?
I can justify my iPhone like this: I am an adult with a job. I can spend my money the way I like. Nice things cost more money than okay things. I deserve a few nice things in my life.
I missed a rescheduled flight to JFK that almost made me miss a wedding to which I was the best man. Why you ask? Because I couldn't get to my email at the time. Had I my iPhone (or equivalent device), this would not have been an issue. It's not just nice, it can be quite practical. Also, I have a nasty track record of missing phone calls due to listening to my MP3 player. This problem is also ameliorated by the possession of my iPhone.
Though I will say this, iTunes is a horrible piece of poop from a butt.
Um, I guess this thread can be closed, unless everyone wants to bicker more since my issue is solved (thanks for noticing the other posts I made, guys). My conclusion: iPhones are neat, but ordering from AT&T online is a Sisyphean ordeal.
Sorry about the lack of attention to your posts! I just read through this thread and though you already chose not to go through with it, I say that was a good move. I have had at&t for years and I am ready to get out of it as soon as my contract is up, because dealing with the phone trees and shit is NOT worth it. Sorry you didn't get your $50 iphone, that does suck, but don't regret it too much because AT&T would probably end up costing you more time and money than the iPhone.
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I pay $15 a month with Sprint for a basic voice plan with my phone. How do you guys rationalize paying $55+ a month for internet access and gadgets?
Yeah, but you're also on Sprint. I've been on Sprint. Sprint sucks. It sucks quite a lot.
Anyway, to counter your reasoning--"because we want to". For me, I like the iPhone because I carry three things in my pockets: My wallet, my keys, and my cell phone. I don't take anything else with me when I leave the house. It wouldn't be comfortable or practical for me.
Having all of those features you talked about in one device--MP3, GPS, and most importantly, being able to access the web and e-mail from anywhere, is pretty fucking awesome. Because then I actually have them. Whereas otherwise I would not.
The problem with all-in-one devices is they're not especially good at anything. As an internet browser, it can't handle java or flash, the screen is small, and browsing the web is a lot slower than on a computer. As a mp3 player it doesn't have much storage so you can't carry a lot of music, and you're not free to listen to it as much as you want since if you drain your battery there goes your life line. And as a phone itself.. a friend of mine says he gets really shitty reception unless he's outside. My phone gets better reception than him.
I've heard that the iphone battery dies quickly too, and that people have to be careful about how much time they surf the web, play games, or listen to music, or they won't have a phone at the end of the day. Searching for real user's iphone battery life times, the first hit has:
•Browsing with 3G: approximately 3 hours
•Talking: approx 6 h
•Regular use, involving lots of phone calls, some browsing and some media usage: less than 6 h
Like you, I carry my wallet, keys, phone, but I also carry an mp3 player.
Thats nice.
My phone is not a brick like the iphone, allowing me to carry another device which allows me to listen to music as much as I want, and I won't drain it in a day. I see your point that it's convenient to have all these devices in one, but do you see how limitations are introduced and now you have to meter your usage so you don't drain the battery?
I don't conserve battery life other than turning the brightness to half and setting the screen to sleep after 10 seconds and my iPhone lasts me all day, doing anything I need of it. With 3G. Plus how is the iPhone a brick? As smartphones go, its one of, if not the most portable of the lot. I hate chunky phones, and this is not something I would consider chunky in the least!
And when you think about it, do you really need internet access anywhere and a gps at all times?
More than you could ever know!
Why not simply a gps in your car?
My car isn't Kitt. It can't always be with me, especially when I'm on business trips.
And stick to using the internet at home and work, or an internet cafe if you're desperate?
Having the ability to check reviews online while at the store just saved me $300 on buying a similar but much more expensive product that I was interested in. Plus I can do everything I would at home, while traveling, and don't have to pay Cafe prices to surf the web in addition to cellular fees.
Need to find a place to eat? Take a walk down the street and discover something new instead of looking down at your iphone and wasting time waiting for pages to load on a small screen.
Urbanspoon. Open, shake, enjoy restaurant off the beaten path that you wouldn't have known about otherwise.
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Sorry, more on point. As for the AT&T Run-around for the $50 iPhone. Of course they busted your balls, they were loosing money on that deal. If I had been in your shoes, and it might be too late, but can't hurt to try if you didn't tell them 'Oh, nevermind then', call them back and get someone with some managerial power on the horn. We managed to save $600 a year on our cell plan at the office just by refusing to accept that they couldn't do something. Turns out that megalithic corporations really don't know what the left hand is doing while they watch the right.
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I only wish it had a phone in it.
If you jailbreak it, you will be in heaven.
There are a slew of awesome programs available with a jailbreak (like a hack, but legal). My favourite of which is mewseek. A p2p client for the iphone for music.
DEWIT.
Is 70 bucks a month for phone and mobile internet worth it?
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I must say that I would drop another $10-$20 a month for what this damned this does. It is honestly impossible, when discussing the iPhone, to not break down and sound like the biggest Apple whore ever.
Actual reasoning here is: it changes how you do things. You will use the phone for things you never even considered using a phone for, the apps range from practical, to entertaining to just downright ridiculous.
Example: the other day I was helping my gf hang pictures, and we couldn't get the frame level (and we had no actual level on hand). Well guess what, the phone has a level app. Download and calibrate it to a level surface and all of a sudden your phone just served the purpose of a level.
Ebook reader (Stanza), graphing calculator, notetaker, portable Pandora machine. This isn't even getting into the portable features that really help when you're on the road somewhere (the unmatched maps, looking up place names for phone numbers/reservations) or the budding gaming community getting behind this thing.
Simply put I use my phone probably 80% for data/internet and 20% for calls. My girlfriend is waiting on her contract to expire so she can get one as well. Though the biggest statement about this thing I can make, is that it's one of the few gadgets I've ever purchased that has totally blown me away and never left me wanting anything (except nationwide wifi =/)
So yeah, highly recommended 8-)
I love my iPhone, I know the plans are much more reasonably priced then here, so make sure you get a data plan. Having totally ubiquitous internet is really really cool. I don't have a desk job, so I love having the net with me everywhere I am.
It's a fantastic device, and you really can't beat that price. Go for it.
But ever since I've gotten the phone, and straightened out my plan. I haven't spoken with them once, and the phone makes up for the month of hell.
Honest to god, I like it a lot. It has GPS. I wouldn't have believed it if you told me how very much I'd like having a GPS all the time. Also it will suggest restaurants and (when it works) Google voice search is great.
The killer feature that I haven't used yet is an app that lets you take picture of an item's cover and it finds it on Amazon and et cetera. Be great for price comparisons.
thats partly why i got the g1, 50 bucks a month gives me some texts, minutes, and unlimited data
and i can copy and paste text :-D
Before that I had a razor and it was 60$ a month. The upgrade was totally worth it.
AT&T BTW
I downloaded iFart.
This phone is all I need in a phone.
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I'm not sure how he got it for $50, but the refurbs went on sale for $100 for new customers only
if you're an existing customer it's $200 if you have an eligible upgrade, or $400 if you don't
It's really not bad for a smart phone, but still pretty expensive compared to your basic "I just want a phone" service.
Because it is awesome What's wrong with having a toy?
Oh, hey I'm making a game! Check it out: Dr. Weirdo!
Having unlimited texts and unlimited data? That fits my needs.
Nothing, it's just that you're paying so much to use it. $55 a month could buy you a new video game every month. Save a few months and you could buy a dedicated mp3 player or gps. Or use the money towards an MMO and still have some left over for a nice dinner every month.
That's $660 a year you're paying to play with an iphone! That's an expensive toy you're renting!
Yeah, but you're also on Sprint. I've been on Sprint. Sprint sucks. It sucks quite a lot.
Anyway, to counter your reasoning--"because we want to". For me, I like the iPhone because I carry three things in my pockets: My wallet, my keys, and my cell phone. I don't take anything else with me when I leave the house. It wouldn't be comfortable or practical for me.
Having all of those features you talked about in one device--MP3, GPS, and most importantly, being able to access the web and e-mail from anywhere, is pretty fucking awesome. Because then I actually have them. Whereas otherwise I would not.
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The problem with all-in-one devices is they're not especially good at anything. As an internet browser, it can't handle java or flash, the screen is small, and browsing the web is a lot slower than on a computer. As a mp3 player it doesn't have much storage so you can't carry a lot of music, and you're not free to listen to it as much as you want since if you drain your battery there goes your life line. And as a phone itself.. a friend of mine says he gets really shitty reception unless he's outside. My phone gets better reception than him.
I've heard that the iphone battery dies quickly too, and that people have to be careful about how much time they surf the web, play games, or listen to music, or they won't have a phone at the end of the day. Searching for real user's iphone battery life times, the first hit has:
•Browsing with 3G: approximately 3 hours
•Talking: approx 6 h
•Regular use, involving lots of phone calls, some browsing and some media usage: less than 6 h
Like you, I carry my wallet, keys, phone, but I also carry an mp3 player. My phone is not a brick like the iphone, allowing me to carry another device which allows me to listen to music as much as I want, and I won't drain it in a day.
I see your point that it's convenient to have all these devices in one, but do you see how limitations are introduced and now you have to meter your usage so you don't drain the battery? And when you think about it, do you really need internet access anywhere and a gps at all times? Why not simply a gps in your car? And stick to using the internet at home and work, or an internet cafe if you're desperate? Need to find a place to eat? Take a walk down the street and discover something new instead of looking down at your iphone and wasting time waiting for pages to load on a small screen.
for other people it is really useful
as far as battery life, try comparing those to other cell phones. 6 hours talk time is about what I get on my Pearl and what I got on my old Sony Ericsson. And that's 3G talk time on the iPhone (you should get about 9-10 hours on EDGE), which is somewhat unnecessary in the first place.
With less than 6 hours of battery life with regular use, you're not free to use it as you wish. You can't listen to music all day or surf the web for hours. As the day goes on and you see your battery falling below 50%, you have to stop and think if it's worth listening to music right now. That's not freedom! This device is holding you back. It's kind of like tying your balls to your ankle with no slack. You can only shuffle your feet to get around; you can't run and jump and roam free!
When you don't have enough battery life to do the things you want, I want you guys to imagine a string tied to your balls and Steve Jobs on the other end giving it a hard jerk. And then you hand him $55 and ask for more.
I personally have no complaints about the iPhone's battery life. I have never once had to conscientiously limit my usage to save battery power. Anecdotal evidence lol, I know, but that's no worse than "here's some numbers some dude gave me". And since it replaced my 4gb Nano, "not having enough space" isn't a complaint of mine. Hell, I prefer it over my old Nano since it has 8gb of space and what I consider to be a vastly improved interface.
You are allowed to not need or want a smartphone, but please don't automatically assume that a piece of hardware is lackluster simply because it is supposed to accomplish more than one task.
And seriously, stop this "$55" crap, you're comparing apples and oranges. Having an unlimited data plan costs $20 or $30 a month, depending on if you have an EDGE or 3G iPhone. Roughly half of the price difference you are citing comes from the fact that AT&T is more expensive than Sprint, mostly due to it having a higher level of entry for voice plans (I spent 5 minutes on the Sprint and AT&Ts websites: the cheapest basic new Sprint plan listed was $30/month for 200 minutes, the cheapest AT&T was $40 for 450). I was using AT&T back before I owned a smartphone, so I'm only paying $20 more now than I did before. For me personally, paying $20 per month to have the entire internet in my pocket is a hell of a deal, although I am able to understand that some people might not need or want the additional functionality that a smartphone provides.
If I wanted to sit around randomly surfing the web for hours at a time, I wouldn't be doing it in a place where I need to use my phone to do so. But, because it's available the rare times throughout the day or week that I do need it, my smartphone is really fucking useful
And, again, it's not six hours of regular use. Six hours talk time means six full hours that you are talking to your friends on your cell phone about how brilliant and wonderful you are for not buying an iPhone. I'm generally not on my phone for six hours every day, and if I am, I'll probably be at home or work for a period of time when I can just plug the damn thing in.
Not to mention listening to music is the least taxing thing you can do on your iPhone besides leaving it in your pocket, so I really don't think your battery life hitting 50% is going to dictate whether or not you listen to a couple of songs
However, once I got one for Christmas, I saw the error of my ways. My first act involved trolling the PA forums while shirt shopping with my girlfriend. My cognitive leaps told me I could also view porn from ANYWHERE, but I decided Nordstrom's after Christmas sale was probably not he best time or place.
I've been taxing the hell out of the damn thing and I really haven't seen it's battery drop that low. Honestly, I got two hours of talk time out of my Motorola Razr. I can get substantially more than that on my iPhone.
I can justify my iPhone like this: I am an adult with a job. I can spend my money the way I like. Nice things cost more money than okay things. I deserve a few nice things in my life.
I missed a rescheduled flight to JFK that almost made me miss a wedding to which I was the best man. Why you ask? Because I couldn't get to my email at the time. Had I my iPhone (or equivalent device), this would not have been an issue. It's not just nice, it can be quite practical. Also, I have a nasty track record of missing phone calls due to listening to my MP3 player. This problem is also ameliorated by the possession of my iPhone.
Though I will say this, iTunes is a horrible piece of poop from a butt.
Edit:
Sorry, more on point. As for the AT&T Run-around for the $50 iPhone. Of course they busted your balls, they were loosing money on that deal. If I had been in your shoes, and it might be too late, but can't hurt to try if you didn't tell them 'Oh, nevermind then', call them back and get someone with some managerial power on the horn. We managed to save $600 a year on our cell plan at the office just by refusing to accept that they couldn't do something. Turns out that megalithic corporations really don't know what the left hand is doing while they watch the right.