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That would be interesting, actually. I do hope I do not lose track of his answer.
Why I actually felt bad is not really important to the conversation with Morninglord.
But to be honest, it was a mix of at least three things (that I was, at the time, aware of), and maybe one more while writing that reply, that I mentioned within the reply.
Meh, emotionally exhausting night. Night chat.
For real? I wondered where the cement comment came from but didn't go back in [Chat] to learn... what was up?
At the very least, sleep well.
No sweat. I got that from you.
Not so much from Morninglord.
Sleep well, cock-sucking sig!
:P
(Sorry... do sleep well, though.)
I'm overprotective about people I like.
It's a character flaw. Sorry for misjudging you.
Man, it's all right... and you seem to be one who won't stress it if you get called on your shit (when it's in actuality, shit). I just didn't like the tone and assumption.
I don't think it was a misjudgement. The way he wrote it can't be taken to mean anything other than he didn't like Oboro's posting unless you're purposely talking hypotheticals just for the sake of argument.
Saying "I felt bad... one, because I read her post" only comes off as you being a dick unless you clarify otherwise.
Yes, I think about what people say, consider it and if it's worthwhile and I am mistaken I change my opinion.
This is why I don't mind being serious, just in case. I don't get "stuck."
Nocturne you are technically right but it's not worth it.
It was a statement without judgement and, honestly, the judgement read into is says more about you (the general you, although also 'you' in this case) than about me.
Wtf Laos three "you"?
I'm not a mindreader. This is why I went off at you, unclear speech.
And again, a statement like that automatically comes off as offensive unless you clarify.
I do realize it's not worth it, I just thought you were right in your assumption and his defense of the comment was bunk.
I was replying, quoting and replying, Nocturne... the 'you' seemed to me to be clear. My bad for assuming that. I did mean Nocturne. (I also had not seen your reply to/about him/his reply to me.)
No, you're wrong here. The statement has distinct connotations that are negative unless you clarify otherwise. This doesn't "say anything about me," as that's the way most anyone would and should interpret that.
It's procrastination from actually doing some work, but I really can't be arsed with this today.
[chat], decide what I should do!
Not starting shit, just saying.
There is no reason what I originally said should have been read automatically in a negative voice or meaning... nor should any of my hypothetical helped to read, in hindsight, my original statement negatively... the you don't know me shit was, as anyone who knows me, just BS because I am clearly not as Oboro... but I could have been.
Would your take on the situation been any different if I had been explicit with how I meant what I said and only how I meant, instead of some of the hypotheticals that involved meanings I did not mean? How do you reconcile that with your judgements?
Again, what I originally said should not be automatically taken as either way, really... and that you take it one way or the other says more of you than me.
(As in, either you do not like me, you really, really like Oboro, you are generally negative, you are generally positive, you do not trust anyone, you do not trust people on the internet, etc...)
This is true but you are naive to believe others think as clearly as this and should have realised what the popular interpretation would be, don't you think?
Wait fuck I'm supposed to drop it damn you nocturne.
Also, the weather in Paris is going to suck today.
Seriously, if you don't think that statement has a negative connotation than you don't have a very good grasp of the English language.
But I'll drop it here.
She's gonna be gone for another week and a half.
I WAS SAD for three reasons, although I realise all three were not listed in my reply to Morninglord, so I'll apologise for my mistatement regarding that. The first being, I was sad because I had decided not to read her posts any longer... leading into the second reason, being that the reason I was no longer reading her posts was that I found the whole process frustrating because I found that she was always struggling struggling struggling and would not help herself and we (PA) could not help her either... and as part of that larger group, PA, yet still unable to help, I found myself frustrated and upset with my infertility (that's not necessarily the right word I want to use right now... sorry). The third reason was that I found myself wanting to reply, in kind (with her obsession with stationary) and had to fight both not to participate in the [Chat] discussion as well as not to encourage her, as I see/saw it, disruptive and non-healthy/helpful crutch that we, as a forum, provided... basically, I was sad because I not only tempted myself to continue posting where I post near-too-much already, but would also, in my eyes, tempt someone else who was trying hard to succeed... tempt her with a reason to fall onto that crutch again.
None of that shit, at all, should have been read from what I said. My reasons, although not all positive, should have been read from what I said. It could have been entirely positive as I had mentioned in the hypotheticals... it could have been a mixed bag, like it was... or it could have been entirely hate-filled like you maybe assumed (but didn't necessarily assume).
My point was that his original reading was not accurate. I called him on it. He at least recognised why he was being called on it, although he and I may not agree on whose reading was right... but it's not like there was a black or white way that absolutely had to be read. That you assumed I was being negative, and that I meant to say bad things about Oboro, really does say more about you. At the very least, it says more about how you view me than about how I view Oboro.
What sort of pens do you like, anyway?
I'm not going to accuse you of starting shit, but I'm going to address it... sort of.
Because people have shat on Oboro in [Chat], it is automatic that I am shitting on Oboro in [Chat]? Even if I were a notorious Oboro-shitter... which I don't think I am, I would presume to hope that something would be taken as said rather than coloured. (Although I'd probably be guilty of that the same... so that point is not so cool of me; sorry.)
My point is, though... why should something that is not clearly negative nor positive that is said about Oboro be taken as automatically negative simply because negative things have been said about Oboro in the past?
I have a current obsession for fountain/cartridge pens at the moment for my main pen. Gel ink pens are good for putting in notes. A good selection of highlighters is always a must. I have a real yen for notebooks and end up with more than I could possibly use.
Anyway, I have decided to go shopping and get some new tops with my christmas vouchers. Really can't be bothered with the note taking today. Maybe i'll get a new notepad and that will inspire me :P
That's how people work. Literally, the decision making literature is basically hey we are automatic and have lots of biases.
As someone who both likes LaOs and really really likes Oboro I felt that his statement could be taken the wrong way myself (but dismissed it because I remember the post he was recollecting: he did say "I almost missed reading this" or something to that effect.) I do think that his hypotheticals aren't bullshit and that's why I asked him to explicitly state his own feelings on how to interpret his statement.
God I should just sleep it's 5 AM.
You can drop it or not, but it's not like I said anything inflammatory, yet neutral, about the woman. I said that I became sad upon reading something she wrote (for two reasons... one being I read what she wrote and the other because of the focus we shared). Lots of things Oboro wrote/writes (I am sure she writes somewhere still) were sad, sadness-enducing, etc. Stating sadness on reading her writing does not seem to me as inflammatory nor does that idea of mine seem naieve.
I imagine you're there for work, right Dyna?
How is work going over the holiday season?
OR... are you actually there for a holiday of your own? If then... well, how the hell is France?
I'm going to go eat my sausages.
:hugs:
That's not a very fair or honest statement to drop anything on, and you know it, or your grasp of the English language is weaker than you think.
I've addressed this point to Morninglord (I think), but because Oboro has been shat on in [Chat], I should be faulted for your thinking that an innocuous statement by me regarding something she wrote is also actual shitting on her? It is and was a stretch and you know it.
What sort of food?
Holiday leftovers, or actual good food?
(Ha! Ba-Zing! Actually, I quite enjoy ham leftovers.)
To forge what, exactly? :P
(With you... well, it could be nearly anything!)