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Amazon.com Visa Credit Card

AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin KoopantinoRegistered User regular
edited November 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
So... Christmas time is coming up and so are a number of family birthdays. I noticed while browsing Amazon.com just now for possible gifts that if you sign up for an Amazon.com Visa credit card and use it to make your purchase, they will take 30 dollars off the amount of the purchase.

That is mighty tempting as I am very financially strained. I've read over some of the fine print and I don't see any reason to not go for this... but I'd like to hear what you guys think.

Do any of you have the Amazon Visa card? Is this a good deal?

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I know nothing about Amazon, but Target used to (maybe still does) have a similar deal with their Visa card. With the Target card there was no real catch, but the interest rate on their credit card is something like 28%. I imagine Amazon's card has a similarly rediculous interest rate, so if you do go ahead and get it, make sure you dont carry a balance. Pay it off at the end of each month. Ideally pay it off after the first month then cut it up.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I have never had a credit card before so here is a quick, stupid question:

    You pay off the credit card balance each month after you receive the monthly statement, right?

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  • haroOharoO Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Simply put, yes. You can pay off the whole balance, the minimum payment (usually 15-35 dollars), or whatever you want. You can even not pay, but you will pay (interest and charges). BAD IDEA. Pay the balance.

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  • ffordefforde Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    For what it's worth, getting a credit card because your short on cash is the wrong reason to get a credit card. Just be careful, because it is very very easy to spend money that you do not have with a credit card. This wont bother the credit card company one bit because the more of a balance you carry the more interest you will pay to them. If you are not careful it can really be a downward spiral.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    what he said.

    for example, i got one initially to purchase things online, use paypal, verify my identity in other consumerish sort of ways...

    if you're already strained financially... this only helps you out for 30 days or so

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Deusfaux wrote:
    what he said.

    for example, i got one initially to purchase things online, use paypal, verify my identity in other consumerish sort of ways...

    if you're already strained financially... this only helps you out for 30 days or so

    What they said about what he said.

    Seriously, though, CC are not something to mess around with.

    Before you get the card, think why you're short on cash right now. Is it just because there were some extra bills this month, or because you had to pre-order the PS3, like totally, from Japan? And you just had to have a McRib everyday this week, because you know, thry wil lbe going away soon? Now think about all the stuff you could buy if you had a CC; it's like free money!

    If that sounds like a good idea, I want you to scam-block Amazon.com on your browser. Right now.

    A CC is a good idea to build credit history (needed for car/house/etc) buying. It's good if you don't want to pay cash for everything, but know, truly, that you have that money in the bank and will pay it off every month.

    All CCs are "good deals" as long as they don't have annual fees and aren't from The Prince's 1st Bank of Nigeria; provided you pay your balence every month.

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  • StarfuckStarfuck Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    I have the amazon visa
    It's not like a department store card, it's a Chase card with an Amazon logo. I think the interest rate is like 10%, not bad as far as most cards go, but not great either. If you can pay it off within one month, you should be ok. If you go much longer than that, you've lost out on you free $30.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    If you pay it off every month and the rewards program doesn't have a fee attached to it, there's no way to get screwed with a credit card.

    It's when you start carrying a balance, transferring balances from card to card, missing payments, etc. that you screw yourself with a credit card.

    I've got a similar card from Circuit City. My wife and I pay everything that we can on it despite the horrible rate (23%), but we pay it off every month so all it's doing is generating Circuit City rewards points for us.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Basically I use my credit card as a charge card. Pay off the entire amount every month. Mostly use it like you would a checking account since it's easier to track for me. I have a Visa Signature so there's some other perks, like extending warranty lengths for free in addition to getting first dibs on some event tickets.

    If you don't have money, you don't need a card.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Is this a good deal?

    If you're strapped for money, you probably won't be able to pay the entire balance before the end of the month, wich will leave you with the debt you owe, the accumulated interests AND the service fees.

    These combined will be significantly greater than the $30.00 you're saving.

    I say, bad deal. If you really need a credit card make sure you get the one with the lowest Intrest rate and APR, not the one with the best reward.

    Credit cards are not realistic finacial solutions. If you don't have money to buy something DONT BUY IT. You'll be in a cespool of debt forever.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm not so strapped for money that I wouldn't be able to pay it. In fact I'd be sending the payment off immediately, most likely. I just want to make sure I'm not getting screwed somehow here.

    I would probably also cut the thing up after this month.

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I got the Chase Amazon one about a year ago for the $30 credit. I used it a few more times on Amazon to get extra rewards points, but eventually forgot about it and now I just use my normal credit card on Amazon. I check the account every now and then and nothing bad has happened. So I think you're fine.

    Question: Can anyone recommend a good rewards card? I have a Citibank Mastercard Platinum Select, which until a few months ago had 5% cash back for gas and groceries / 1% on everything else. Recently they changed this to 2% across the board, which is kind of sad because gas and groceries constituted about 90% of my credit card purchases. Is there another card out there with a rewards program similar to my old one?

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I would probably also cut the thing up after this month.

    Running a credit inquiry only to have the requested service canceled is also a bad idea.

    Your credit score suffers every time you apply for credit cards, loans and such. If you're gonna get that card, you might as well keep it.

    I'd highly advise against getting that particular card. The only real benefit is the discounts you enjoy at Amazon.com and ONLY Amazon.com ... and no matter where you use it, you'll be trapped with the monstrous intrest rate.

    I say, go to your favorite bank and apply for a card there. Not only will the rates be lower, you'll be able to use it in more places.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I would probably also cut the thing up after this month.

    Running a credit inquiry only to have the requested service canceled is also a bad idea.

    Your credit score suffers every time you apply for credit cards, loans and such. If you're gonna get that card, you might as well keep it.

    I'd highly advise against getting that particular card. The only real benefit is the discounts you enjoy at Amazon.com... however you're trapped with the monstrous intrest rate.

    I say, go to your favorite bank and apply for a card there. Not only will the rates be lower, you'll be able to use it in more places.

    The APR is 17% on that Amazon card... is that really considered high?

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    APR and intrest rates are gonna fluctuate depending on the cardholder and region. The only way to find out is to call some banks and ask them about their cards.

    Sorry, I can't really give you a straight answer on that one. The percentage rates I have on my cards are from when I worked at the Bank I requested them from. My APR was 7%, but that was due to my employee benefits package.

    I, however, would not take a card with something higher than 12%.

    EDIT:

    Also, check out the intrest rates and the penalty fees. It's not only APR that's gonna get you.

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  • JAEFJAEF Unstoppably Bald Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I use one of these. I pay it off in full every month, and for every $2500 spent I get a $25 gift certificate for Amazon.com (lol 1%)

    Never had any problems at all, except that I lost it one time, but they were very prompt about cutting off the old one (which wasn't used at all after I lost it, luckily) and getting me a new one.

    If you aren't going to be able to pay the thing off at the end of the month though.. I would recommend against getting a CC at all.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I myself have two cards, one for personal use and one for business. You really should not have more than two open at a time. For a rewards type of card, I went with a Costco American Express which will actually give you cash back at the end of the year, depending on how much you've spent (and not just at Costco).

    As long as you pay the card off every month, you shouldn't have a problem as you wouldn't incur finance charges. You do need to pay every month if you put charges on the card, regardless of whether you pay in full or the minimum. If you don't pay by the due date, you will usually incur a late fee, and the company can report you to the credit tracking companies for being overdue, which will reduce your FICO score and shows up as a red flag when you apply for loans.

    Rule of thumb is to never put anything on the card that you don't already have in the bank.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I keep an up to date spreadsheet to keep track of how much money I have on hand and how much money I have in the bank... I was thinking if I set it up so that any money spent with a credit card is subtracted from the total (even before I've paid off the bill... at the end of every day if I have any receipts from the day I go into my spreadsheet and update it) then I will know how much money I actually have available to me. At the same time I would add up the money spent with the credit card in a separate column, and compare that total to the monthly statement.

    I think that would work out pretty well and help keep myself out of trouble.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Since this would be your first real credit card, there is one catch:

    You need credit to get credit. The financial catch 22.

    Chances are if it's your first credit card and you have not gotten any offers in the mail (the pre-approved kind) then you will probably be turned down. This differs from bank to bank, but most will not give out credit to someone who has no credit. If you have bad credit, though, for some reason they will (depends how bad, though).

    If you are approved for the card, and it is your first credit card, and it has no long-term lock-in requirements or annual fees, then by all means take advantage of it.

    I do not recommend you cut it up after first use. What a waste! Instead use it to pay a small monthly recurring bill, like a cell phone, internet, whatever. Just pay it off each month. You will be building credit even if it's easier to just directly pay from your debit/checking account. Within a few months you will be getting tons of mail offers for pre-approved credit cards. This doesn't mean you should go and apply for all of them, though. You probably do want a second one to build your credit faster (again with a small recurring payment that you can afford and pay off each month).

    If you are declined, then it's no big deal. Just keep in mind that if you apply for credit many times in a short period of time, it looks bad to potential creditors. I don't know the exact numbers, but just don't be mailing out a bunch of applications for credit cards.

    If you need to build credit there are a few ways. One is to get a secured credit card from your bank. You put down say $100 or $200 and that is basically your limit. This money is basically a guarantee so that if you end up not paying your credit card bill, they are not out any money. However this is not as good as a real credit line, so only get one if you need to. I didn't need to.

    Now for me I'm not sure what did it, but it wasn't until after I had lost my job and moved out of my apartment and back home that I was able to get a credit card. Go figure! Anyways, I think it was because I had utility bills in my name, but I'm not sure.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    exoplasm wrote:
    Instead use it to pay a small monthly recurring bill, like a cell phone, internet, whatever. Just pay it off each month. You will be building credit even if it's easier to just directly pay from your debit/checking account.[/quote]

    This 'exoplasm' speaks truth.

    By paying it off every month, you are helping your credit score, but not wanging yourself with high interest.

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  • lordswinglordswing Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Orogogus wrote:
    Question: Can anyone recommend a good rewards card? I have a Citibank Mastercard Platinum Select, which until a few months ago had 5% cash back for gas and groceries / 1% on everything else. Recently they changed this to 2% across the board, which is kind of sad because gas and groceries constituted about 90% of my credit card purchases. Is there another card out there with a rewards program similar to my old one?

    I have a Chase BP card, I get 5% rebates at BP Gas Stations, 2% at "participating" restaurants, and 1% everywhere else. For the first 2 monthes, the rebates were double, and I got $75 for spending $1k in the first 3 monthes. It was awesome, :p

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    exoplasm wrote:
    You need credit to get credit.

    Chances are if it's your first credit card and you have not gotten any offers in the mail then you will probably be turned down.

    Actually, if you have no credit, you have no credit damage and thus have acceptable credit. Your first aproval will not be based on existing credit history but rather employment history.

    If you have a steady job (more than 3 months) you'll be approved an amount proportional to your income.
    exoplasm wrote:
    If you are declined, then it's no big deal. Just keep in mind that if you apply for credit many times in a short period of time, it looks bad to potential creditors. I don't know the exact numbers, but just don't be mailing out a bunch of applications for credit cards.

    Aproved or declined, your score is damaged just the same. There is no set number of times you can apply before your score starts to suffer because this is gonna depend on your existing score.

    If you have a high score you can apply alot of times and not see as much damage as someone with a terrible score.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    exoplasm wrote:
    You need credit to get credit.

    Chances are if it's your first credit card and you have not gotten any offers in the mail then you will probably be turned down.

    Actually, if you have no credit, you have no credit damage and thus have excellent credit. Your first aproval will not be based on existing credit history but rather employment history.

    If you have a steady job (more than 3 months) you'll be approved an amount proportional to your income.

    While this also is correct, it is important to realize that having no credit is not the same thing as having excellent credit. It's important to establish a credit history. Sure, it won't stop you from getting credit cards, but it will become a hinderance if you never get a credit card when you try to purchase a car or a home.

    All that being said, any rewards card without a fee atttached is a good bet if you'll use the rewards. I've been very happy with my Circuit City VISA because I pay the balance every month, and I use the Circuit City points to feed my consumer electronics addiction. If the Amazon card also has no fee and you're likely to use Amazon points, go to town. Just make sure not to charge more than you can pay.

    Your credit limit isn't what you can afford. It's what the credit card company thinks you can afford to make the minimum payment on. They're not out to help you, and no credit increase is given to you to help (aside from the one you ask for).

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  • SuperSweetieSuperSweetie Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I have one and Im happy with mine. I used my 30$ certificate toward the purchase of my pink ipod mini :/ I keep mine paid off though. I dont use it very often and when I do purchase something with it, I take money from my purse and put it to the side to pay for what I get, and I send it all for my payment when I receive my bill. You can charge a good bit and still have a minimum payment of 10 or 15$, however if you can, its always good to keep it paid down so that there isnt much finance charges added to it every month. All in all, Im happy with the card. I tried Capital One one time and that was a mess. The amazon visa card, is by far my favorite and the finance charges arent bad at all.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    jclast wrote:
    While this also is correct, it is important to realize that having no credit is not the same thing as having excellent credit.

    This is true! I realized this and edited my post accordingly but you quoted me too quickly.

    Excellent credit is something you build, not a starting point.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    If you have no credit, I don't know if you would actually be denied by the company for a card. It depends on their policy. I would expect a very low credit limit to be placed on the card, say $500 or so.

    I myself have been with Capital One for years, and they are pretty good, but almost a little overprotective. Any time I had to put a large charge on the card (say when I bought my laptop), they immediately put a hold on my card and called me to make sure it wasn't fraud. I appreciate the protection (they actually did catch geniune fraud once, and cleared it up with no hassle, just filled out a two page fraud claim form and they took care of the rest), but can be inconvenient at time. With the laptop, not only did I have to verify that it wasn't fraud and get the hold taken off, I then had to go through the hassle of calling Dell's sales department to get the charge to go through.

    I would recommend you get some kind of credit card as long as you handle it responsibly. It really is important to start building a credit history, otherwise you might screw yourself down the line when trying to get a loan for a house or anything else. I used to work as a home loan processor, and my manager loved giving advice, but it was sound advice. His advice was to have two credit cards open. The first use normally, say when I buy groceries or gas or some such. The other one file away, but take it out and buy a pair of pants with it every six months. This helps to establish a good credit history which will ultimately pay off in the long run. Just don't go on spending sprees.

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  • hazard18hazard18 Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Usually if you have no credit you should have no problem getting a Credit Card, just expect a very high interest rate. I have three Credit Cards that I got for various specials (such as no interest for a year if you get a Best Buy card). I keep them all paid off, and if I really want something and know that even though I can put it on the card and pay it off in a year, I will usually talk myself out of buying whatever it is. When I was younger I saw what it was like with my parents when they got into debt so I try to stay as far out of it as I can. Just my 2 cents.

    Also dont ever let people tell you that credit cards are bad. My parents always told me to stay away from credit cards because of the situations they got into. However I got a credit card with a very high interest rate, used it for two years always making sure I paid the total balance every month or every other month. This got my credit into really good standing while the card I had not only increased in the amount I could put on it, but the interest rate lowered a lot. Recently I bought a condo and I can tell you, if I never worked my credit up I would have been SOL when purchasing it.

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  • Elessar ElfstoneElessar Elfstone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You shouldnt even worry about the interest rate, because like others have said previously, treat the CC like real money. You should be paying off your balance in full every month so as not to incur any interest payments. It doesnt matter if your interest rate is 5% or 50%, always pay off your balance monthly. Do not spend what you normally would not spend if you didnt have this CC.

    Use a CC for things like rewards programs, fraud protection, building credit history, etc etc.

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