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I like to draw and write my own comics, and I dabble with painted, traditional artwork at times. But once in a while, one of my dumb little buddies has such a genius idea for a drawing, I need to put it to paper. This is a result of said phenomenon:
Now, keep in mind, the overly-bulky, Gears of War-style build is purposeful, and so are the skinny little legs. I'm all for constructive criticism, but I was intentionally going for bizzare proportions on this one.
Tell me what you guys think.
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
For one thing, its not funny, and for another nothing matches
his arms are nothing alike, the veins in his head are just ridiculous and slapped on and the coloring isnt giving it much either. work on anatomy, shading, and well....everything
Draw from life and get proportion and anatomy right before you try to create your own style
Now, keep in mind, the overly-bulky, Gears of War-style build is purposeful, and so are the skinny little legs. I'm all for constructive criticism, but I was intentionally going for bizzare proportions on this one.
NO WAI! TRULY? It's a decent charicature for an ancient joke. You're like Seinfeld, in dire need of new material. This would make a damn fine greeting card, get ahold of those Hallmark people- right up their alley.
NO WAI! TRULY? It's a decent charicature for an ancient joke. You're like Seinfeld, in dire need of new material. This would make a damn fine greeting card, get ahold of those Hallmark people- right up their alley.
I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm on the Hallmark comment, but thanks for saying it's a decent caricature. I'm well aware of how dated the whole concept of the drawing is, but I just thought it'd be fun to draw anyway.
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Colouring, mate. Learn how to colour. It's awful. Light source, maybe? Some sort of semblance of any sort of lighting instead of splotches of darkness? Flats would have been better than what you've done.
NO WAI! TRULY? It's a decent charicature for an ancient joke. You're like Seinfeld, in dire need of new material. This would make a damn fine greeting card, get ahold of those Hallmark people- right up their alley.
I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm on the Hallmark comment, but thanks for saying it's a decent caricature. I'm well aware of how dated the whole concept of the drawing is, but I just thought it'd be fun to draw anyway.
DAmn you internets, I can't tell if he's being sarcastic about what antibodies said or he really thinks you were talking about drawing being dated. Just incase [spoiler:e991aab465]I believe antibodies meant the joke was outdated, not drawing[/spoiler:e991aab465]
Oh also just little stuff like his boxing gloves come almost to a point when fists are really more flat where you drew the point on the glove. and in the case that he's wearing large gloves they would be more round. Just little stuff like that you need to work on.
Examples:
Another Edit: sorry I can't stop myself ... his legs look kinda like sausages
Thank you for your comment on the gloves. I didn't even look at any source material for this picture, just a snapshot of Tyson. I really should've looked at some boxing gloves too. That was a helpful bit of advice.
P.S. Yes, they do look like sausages. Despite how old the joke is, I think that's one of the (apparently) few things -if any- that makes the picture even somewhat funny.
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Even if I ignore the dated joke, I can't even appreciate the charicature aspect of the drawing because the execution is so poor. I have a feeling that the original pencil sketch (if there was one to begin with) probably looked a lot better than this finished product.
With a few exceptions, your lines are more or less static--from just below the shoulders down, there's very little variation in weight. You've also got a lot of extraneous lines pretty much all over the place (usually next to the outermost outline and lines that define the muscles--see red circles below). What is the point of having them there? Coupled with the haphazard shading, it makes it look like he's a shoddily done quilting project, or perhaps covered in staples.
And the coloring... This would look a lot better if you hadn't even bothered with shading and just kept to flats because you obviously have no idea what you're doing in that respect. I can't really offer a whole lot in the way of suggestions as the problem is not so much an error to correct as it is just completely wrong. What I can do, however, is recommend that you read through this article right here. It won't magically learn you how to draw and color good :B but it's a good read and covers a variety of basic concepts that I think you might benefit from.
Lastly, exaggerated proportions aside, the anatomy is definitely off in a few places. For one, his left hand (the one on our right) appears to connect to his upper arm directly at the elbow. Where is his forearm? Is his glove in the process of eating it? That might explain the expression of excruciating pain/constipation on his face and the fact that he is sweating cyan colored fish hooks. The left mit does look pretty engorged in comparison to its righthand counterpart. The only explaination I can think of is that it is full of forearm.
And while this is really more of a stylistic preference than anything else, I think it would look a little less awkward if you had his legs connecting to his torso a little differently (as illustrated below). It might have something to do with the fact that his shorts probably wouldn't stay that high on his body when his legs connect to a pair of hips that are obviously much more narrow than his torso.
The ear on his bib, though. That looks alright. Good job.
don't know if this has been posted or not, but DON'T use "standard" colors...by which I mean, everything under the default palette in MS Paint. (Clearly your drawing was not done in MS Paint, but bare with me here.)
The brown would be okay I suppose, but not cyan sweat drops and the electric blue (why??) veins on his head.
Furthermore, drawing veins by drawing two lines works if you're drawing in black and white, because it's assumed that the color would be *inside* the two lines, if the picture were colored.
Drawing two BLUE lines poses a problem, as each blue line in itself could represent a vein, and so it looks weird having two blue lines parallel to eachother.
My main problem, is the more I look at his head the more I expect it to keep swelling up and explode. You need to do some more work there, and make it look less like his head is gonna pop.
Thank you Lexx for the constructive critiques. You had a lot of helpful advice that I'm definitely going to use in the future.
FYI: Yes, I used Photoshop to color this, though I'm sure I've bastardized everything Photoshop was created for by making this.
And now that it has been mentioned, yes, I do see the resemblance between his arms and human fecal matter. Not even I am too proud or stubborn to be able to laugh at some of the ridiculousness surrounding my own work. :P
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Well atleast you're not trying to defend your work to the death, even when it's nothing great, 'cause that usually only results in much flaming around these parts.
Well atleast you're not trying to defend your work to the death, even when it's nothing great, 'cause that usually only results in much flaming around these parts.
Yeah, I kind of figured that. The way I see it, if my work isn't at least somewhat liked right off the bat, I might as well take the hits I get and use any criticism (if it's constructive and not just mean-spirited) I can to try and help myself next time.
Zephonate on
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Actually, he has no legs, those are really his testacles
Seriously, that's where they are coming from.
Also, please stop using the burn tool.
Concentrate on why you're putting lines where you are.
Do some anatomical research... Just a bit anyway. Your guy suffers from "random pillows stuffed in my arms instead of muscles" disease.
Overall this is terrible.
What lexxy said.
No sugar coating on this, most of it's been said, good luck and hopefully you come out with something better next time. Practice makes perfect, but hopefully these comments guide your practice.
Even cartoons with funny proportions should have some basis in actual anatomical knowledge. You need to know the rules before you can bend or break them properly.
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"We can be richer than industry as long as we know that there are things that we don't really need." -Willy Mason
You are most welcome sir :> I'm glad you found it useful... I would've liked to offer more advice in the ways of actually fixing things so that the crits were a little more constructive and less HAYTHATSWRONGLOL, but I have a hard time explaining things with words and I was on a school computer at the time so no tablet for the purposes of sketchovers...
You seem to be a decent sort of fellow. Keep on postin', but maybe stick to the doodle thread for a while till you get a little more comfortable with your line and color work.
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
My bad, I didn't realize the that was a link to the article.
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"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
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For one thing, its not funny, and for another nothing matches
his arms are nothing alike, the veins in his head are just ridiculous and slapped on and the coloring isnt giving it much either. work on anatomy, shading, and well....everything
Draw from life and get proportion and anatomy right before you try to create your own style
NO WAI! TRULY? It's a decent charicature for an ancient joke. You're like Seinfeld, in dire need of new material. This would make a damn fine greeting card, get ahold of those Hallmark people- right up their alley.
I'm pretty sure that's sarcasm on the Hallmark comment, but thanks for saying it's a decent caricature. I'm well aware of how dated the whole concept of the drawing is, but I just thought it'd be fun to draw anyway.
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
DAmn you internets, I can't tell if he's being sarcastic about what antibodies said or he really thinks you were talking about drawing being dated. Just incase [spoiler:e991aab465]I believe antibodies meant the joke was outdated, not drawing[/spoiler:e991aab465]
Oh also just little stuff like his boxing gloves come almost to a point when fists are really more flat where you drew the point on the glove. and in the case that he's wearing large gloves they would be more round. Just little stuff like that you need to work on.
Examples:
Another Edit: sorry I can't stop myself ... his legs look kinda like sausages
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P.S. Yes, they do look like sausages. Despite how old the joke is, I think that's one of the (apparently) few things -if any- that makes the picture even somewhat funny.
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
I don't think you really care, just a general observation..
With a few exceptions, your lines are more or less static--from just below the shoulders down, there's very little variation in weight. You've also got a lot of extraneous lines pretty much all over the place (usually next to the outermost outline and lines that define the muscles--see red circles below). What is the point of having them there? Coupled with the haphazard shading, it makes it look like he's a shoddily done quilting project, or perhaps covered in staples.
And the coloring... This would look a lot better if you hadn't even bothered with shading and just kept to flats because you obviously have no idea what you're doing in that respect. I can't really offer a whole lot in the way of suggestions as the problem is not so much an error to correct as it is just completely wrong. What I can do, however, is recommend that you read through this article right here. It won't magically learn you how to draw and color good :B but it's a good read and covers a variety of basic concepts that I think you might benefit from.
Lastly, exaggerated proportions aside, the anatomy is definitely off in a few places. For one, his left hand (the one on our right) appears to connect to his upper arm directly at the elbow. Where is his forearm? Is his glove in the process of eating it? That might explain the expression of excruciating pain/constipation on his face and the fact that he is sweating cyan colored fish hooks. The left mit does look pretty engorged in comparison to its righthand counterpart. The only explaination I can think of is that it is full of forearm.
And while this is really more of a stylistic preference than anything else, I think it would look a little less awkward if you had his legs connecting to his torso a little differently (as illustrated below). It might have something to do with the fact that his shorts probably wouldn't stay that high on his body when his legs connect to a pair of hips that are obviously much more narrow than his torso.
The ear on his bib, though. That looks alright. Good job.
The brown would be okay I suppose, but not cyan sweat drops and the electric blue (why??) veins on his head.
Furthermore, drawing veins by drawing two lines works if you're drawing in black and white, because it's assumed that the color would be *inside* the two lines, if the picture were colored.
Drawing two BLUE lines poses a problem, as each blue line in itself could represent a vein, and so it looks weird having two blue lines parallel to eachother.
[spoiler:1ac55209ac]or 'fish hook' glands[/spoiler:1ac55209ac]
See? Where did all that muscle shape go? Turd.
or maybe... a dinosaur?
FYI: Yes, I used Photoshop to color this, though I'm sure I've bastardized everything Photoshop was created for by making this.
And now that it has been mentioned, yes, I do see the resemblance between his arms and human fecal matter. Not even I am too proud or stubborn to be able to laugh at some of the ridiculousness surrounding my own work. :P
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Yeah, I kind of figured that. The way I see it, if my work isn't at least somewhat liked right off the bat, I might as well take the hits I get and use any criticism (if it's constructive and not just mean-spirited) I can to try and help myself next time.
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
Seriously, that's where they are coming from.
Also, please stop using the burn tool.
Concentrate on why you're putting lines where you are.
Do some anatomical research... Just a bit anyway. Your guy suffers from "random pillows stuffed in my arms instead of muscles" disease.
Overall this is terrible.
What lexxy said.
No sugar coating on this, most of it's been said, good luck and hopefully you come out with something better next time. Practice makes perfect, but hopefully these comments guide your practice.
Even cartoons with funny proportions should have some basis in actual anatomical knowledge. You need to know the rules before you can bend or break them properly.
You seem to be a decent sort of fellow. Keep on postin', but maybe stick to the doodle thread for a while till you get a little more comfortable with your line and color work.
Also, read the article yet? It's kind of boss.
What article? :?:
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
http://www.itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm
"For a few seconds Oskar saw through Eli's eyes. And what he saw was...himself. Only much better, more handsome, stronger than what he thought of himself. Seen with love."
--John Ajvide Lindqvist, Let the Right One In (Page 446).
In the interests of science, maybe redraw the thing with suggestions in mind?