Aw man, it's cool...I don't take any of this stuff seriously...Shit I am a little drunk right now to be honest.
I don't want to come off as the 'nerdy dude who tries to make people look dumb.' I sometimes just post whats on my mind without any filters...because let's be honest...we don't often get to say what's exactly on our minds in real life.
Ok, I see that. I am certainly no astro-biologist, but I do have a love for the kind of stuff like thos. Why I got lured into this conversation in the first place. I have always prefered the 'this is my stance' instead of hemming and hawing about the maybes and ifs, but yeah I did come of dickish.
Boobs in space would be nice. Space porn is only a matter of time.
The tone of your post implied that your opinion on any matters of science or astronomy was worth anything by comparison to even the average NASA employee. Which I'm guessing is simply not true in any fashion.
It's the 'armchair general' rule, except here it is astronomer.
While what you said wasn't factually wrong (there has been no discovery of life on Mars) your suggestion of giving up flies in the face of everything that modern science stands for.
The lack of any life on Mars tells us just as much about the universe we live in as if we landed and little green men walked up and shook our hands.
I'm just desperately bored at work. I usually pester people in the MMO board, but is a ghosttown at this hour.
And I am training the guy who is taking my job.
Maybe I can get a space job? I would be willing to strap myself to a rocket to say I've been in space. Even if there was a small chance children in all over the world would be jumping in the air to catch the raining debree if something went wrong.
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The space elevator goes all the way up to the point where, even though it's just hanging still relative to earth, because of the earth's rotation it's actual speed is high enough for stuff on it to stay in orbit.
Beyond that point everything on it will be pulled upwards. So you make it a little longer and hang a big weight on it. That weight is what's keeping it up,.
If you make it a lot longer, stuff will be flung off the far end. That way you can launch it to other planets with little fuel expense.
If what I last heard is still current - if such an elevator is constructed it would most likely be best suited for hauling materials into space, so I guess astronauts will still have to use rockets to get out there. But who knows what crazy things they will come up with by then.
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There was a news article not too long ago about some porn company approaching that prive space-flight company about making a porn in low orbit, but they declined them on their offer. They need to get on that, it's a completely untapped market that could get huge. Everyone watches porn!
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If what I last heard is still current - if such an elevator is constructed it would most likely be best suited for hauling materials into space, so I guess astronauts will still have to use rockets to get out there. But who knows what crazy things they will come up with by then.
that's stupid
the whole reason a space elevator is so attractive is that it is retardedly expensive and inefficient to used rocket propulsion to break atmosphere.
I remember a statistic I heard a while ago that every pound of weight costs $10,000 or something just to break atmo.
a space elevator would cost a fraction of that, so it would be in their best interest to use it for everything.
You would be saving in the long term. Once you have the elevator built, that's that (aside from constant repairs) unlike rocketing shit up in huge fucking rockets that are not reusable.
You would be saving in the long term. Once you have the elevator built, that's that (aside from constant repairs) unlike rocketing shit up in huge fucking rockets that are not reusable.
Oh yeah man I never said it wouldn't be. I was just explaining the rationale behind using the elevator for frient, and still using rockets for people. Because, I think some theories contend that the elevator would go hell of slow...like really slow...so you save a ton of $$ by shipping all of the heavy ass stuff up the elevator, but you rocket up the people because, you'd like...need to pack a sleeping bag for the elevator ride otherwise.
I'm just saying what I think others have said, I think...I don't stand by this or anything because it's all just hypothetically, obviously.
Yeah and I'm saying that that'd probably be a reasonable trade off. Just because you're not shipping cargo up doesn't mean it won't still cost a fuckton of money to get the astronauts up there.
the whole reason a space elevator is so attractive is that it is retardedly expensive and inefficient to used rocket propulsion to break atmosphere.
I remember a statistic I heard a while ago that every pound of weight costs $10,000 or something just to break atmo.
a space elevator would cost a fraction of that, so it would be in their best interest to use it for everything.
Well the leading candidate for building material for a space elevator is carbon nanotubes. Still got a long ways to go before that kind of material will be ready for the stresses required to handle the job of a space elevator, but the current estimates were it would be thin. Certainly not some immense tower stretching forever into the sky, more like a glorified trolley-cable like structure. But this information might be very outdated, and things change.
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You would be saving in the long term. Once you have the elevator built, that's that (aside from constant repairs) unlike rocketing shit up in huge fucking rockets that are not reusable.
Oh yeah man I never said it wouldn't be. I was just explaining the rationale behind using the elevator for frient, and still using rockets for people. Because, I think some theories contend that the elevator would go hell of slow...like really slow...so you save a ton of $$ by shipping all of the heavy ass stuff up the elevator, but you rocket up the people because, you'd like...need to pack a sleeping bag for the elevator ride otherwise.
I guess I could kind of see it - the sort of ships I see as necessary to explore and colonize space would be a little....impossible to get out of the earths orbit with the propulsion available to us.
and blah blah blah blah
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True. I guess I was speaking more toward the idea that you might need to have people up there quickly...whether for emergencies, repairs, or whatever....in which case, crawling several dozen miles at a snails pace might seem inconvenient.
You would be saving in the long term. Once you have the elevator built, that's that (aside from constant repairs) unlike rocketing shit up in huge fucking rockets that are not reusable.
Oh yeah man I never said it wouldn't be. I was just explaining the rationale behind using the elevator for frient, and still using rockets for people. Because, I think some theories contend that the elevator would go hell of slow...like really slow...so you save a ton of $$ by shipping all of the heavy ass stuff up the elevator, but you rocket up the people because, you'd like...need to pack a sleeping bag for the elevator ride otherwise.
I'm just saying what I think others have said, I think...I don't stand by this or anything because it's all just hypothetically, obviously.
Unless the elevator is powered by some form of propulsion. Even more so if the elevator were a maglev which would cut out quite a lot of friction on the way up.
Although I know little about physics, and have no idea how complicated or possible such a thing would be.
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building an elevator. to space - a space elevator, if you will -
is more efficient and in fact less retarded than rockets?
you know those big brown booster rockets on the side of the space shuttle when it takes off?
they are filled with Liquid Oxygen, which burns away in the rocket propulsion used to create the 80,000 pounds of lift to break the bonds of the earth's gravity and fly out of the atmosphere.
The reason an elevator is so attractive is you don't need to expend all that energy, you just pull yourself up.
hell, if there was a way to suspend a rope ladder from a geosynchronous orbiting satellite, and you had a light enough space suit, you could climb into space under your own power.
building an elevator. to space - a space elevator, if you will -
is more efficient and in fact less retarded than rockets?
you know those big brown booster rockets on the side of the space shuttle when it takes off?
they are filled with Liquid Oxygen, which burns away in the rocket propulsion used to create the 80,000 pounds of lift to break the bonds of the earth's gravity and fly out of the atmosphere.
The reason an elevator is so attractive is you don't need to expend all that energy, you just pull yourself up.
hell, if there was a way to suspend a rope ladder from a geosynchronous orbiting satellite, and you had a light enough space suit, you could climb into space under your own power.
No human could possibly climb that high before succumbing to exhaustion.
I love it. I'd be passed out right now over my workdesk if not for this most likely. I get excited about stuff like this because we live in an age where such marvels may very well happen in our life-time, where all those previous generations before us could only imagine it. They got brainiacs figuring out ways to undo aging for Gods sakes - and for the first time in history, they feel confident they are on to something.
The feasability of an elevator will ride on how motivated we humans are to get off this planet. Right now China is looking like a strong candidate in the next decade or so.
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I love it. I'd be passed out right now over my workdesk if not for this most likely. I get excited about stuff like this because we live in an age where such marvels may very well happen in our life-time, where all those previous generations before us could only imagine it. They got brainiacs figuring out ways to undo aging for Gods sakes - and for the first time in history, they feel confident they are on to something.
The feasability of an elevator will ride on how motivated we humans are to get off this planet. Right now China is looking like a strong candidate in the next decade or so.
All it'd really take to get the rest of the world motivated is if the Americans claim they'll be the first to pull it off.
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Aaaaaand I need to get off the internet and catch some sleep. Good night.
building an elevator. to space - a space elevator, if you will -
is more efficient and in fact less retarded than rockets?
you know those big brown booster rockets on the side of the space shuttle when it takes off?
they are filled with Liquid Oxygen, which burns away in the rocket propulsion used to create the 80,000 pounds of lift to break the bonds of the earth's gravity and fly out of the atmosphere.
The reason an elevator is so attractive is you don't need to expend all that energy, you just pull yourself up.
hell, if there was a way to suspend a rope ladder from a geosynchronous orbiting satellite, and you had a light enough space suit, you could climb into space under your own power.
No human could possibly climb that high before succumbing to exhaustion.
s'only a hundred and fifty miles.
I'm not saying he'd do it in an afternoon, and I was mostly talking theoretically, saying it don't take much energy to pull yourself out of atmo
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I don't want to come off as the 'nerdy dude who tries to make people look dumb.' I sometimes just post whats on my mind without any filters...because let's be honest...we don't often get to say what's exactly on our minds in real life.
The tone of your post implied that your opinion on any matters of science or astronomy was worth anything by comparison to even the average NASA employee. Which I'm guessing is simply not true in any fashion.
It's the 'armchair general' rule, except here it is astronomer.
While what you said wasn't factually wrong (there has been no discovery of life on Mars) your suggestion of giving up flies in the face of everything that modern science stands for.
The lack of any life on Mars tells us just as much about the universe we live in as if we landed and little green men walked up and shook our hands.
And I am training the guy who is taking my job.
Maybe I can get a space job? I would be willing to strap myself to a rocket to say I've been in space. Even if there was a small chance children in all over the world would be jumping in the air to catch the raining debree if something went wrong.
And my poor Death Knight that couldn't afford an icon.
And my poor Death Knight that couldn't afford an icon.
The one in that animation is like tens of thousands of kilometres.
Beyond that point everything on it will be pulled upwards. So you make it a little longer and hang a big weight on it. That weight is what's keeping it up,.
If you make it a lot longer, stuff will be flung off the far end. That way you can launch it to other planets with little fuel expense.
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But no zero g cumshots
in space, no one can hear you droppin loads
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
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Good then maybe I don't have to hear the German dude moan like a dipshit
That was a good thread
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Oh geek, mitch hedberg died too soon...
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that's stupid
the whole reason a space elevator is so attractive is that it is retardedly expensive and inefficient to used rocket propulsion to break atmosphere.
I remember a statistic I heard a while ago that every pound of weight costs $10,000 or something just to break atmo.
a space elevator would cost a fraction of that, so it would be in their best interest to use it for everything.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
So like, rocket the men up to space or whatever, and the large loads of heavy cargo will get there eventually via the elevator.
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ooo sci fi and diagrams and all that stuff.
building an elevator. to space - a space elevator, if you will -
is more efficient and in fact less retarded than rockets?
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I'm not sure if I know what you mean.
Are you talking about cargo or people?
when they built an elevator to heaven? :whistle:
but still inferior to a space firemans pole.
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Both.
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also not as desirable, the "space cannon"
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Oh yeah man I never said it wouldn't be. I was just explaining the rationale behind using the elevator for frient, and still using rockets for people. Because, I think some theories contend that the elevator would go hell of slow...like really slow...so you save a ton of $$ by shipping all of the heavy ass stuff up the elevator, but you rocket up the people because, you'd like...need to pack a sleeping bag for the elevator ride otherwise.
I'm just saying what I think others have said, I think...I don't stand by this or anything because it's all just hypothetically, obviously.
steam
Well the leading candidate for building material for a space elevator is carbon nanotubes. Still got a long ways to go before that kind of material will be ready for the stresses required to handle the job of a space elevator, but the current estimates were it would be thin. Certainly not some immense tower stretching forever into the sky, more like a glorified trolley-cable like structure. But this information might be very outdated, and things change.
And my poor Death Knight that couldn't afford an icon.
I guess I could kind of see it - the sort of ships I see as necessary to explore and colonize space would be a little....impossible to get out of the earths orbit with the propulsion available to us.
and blah blah blah blah
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But god damn is this a nerdy conversation haha
edit - Man I spelled freight wrong earlier
Unless the elevator is powered by some form of propulsion. Even more so if the elevator were a maglev which would cut out quite a lot of friction on the way up.
Although I know little about physics, and have no idea how complicated or possible such a thing would be.
you know those big brown booster rockets on the side of the space shuttle when it takes off?
they are filled with Liquid Oxygen, which burns away in the rocket propulsion used to create the 80,000 pounds of lift to break the bonds of the earth's gravity and fly out of the atmosphere.
The reason an elevator is so attractive is you don't need to expend all that energy, you just pull yourself up.
hell, if there was a way to suspend a rope ladder from a geosynchronous orbiting satellite, and you had a light enough space suit, you could climb into space under your own power.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
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We winnin' us an x-prize, dawg.
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No human could possibly climb that high before succumbing to exhaustion.
The feasability of an elevator will ride on how motivated we humans are to get off this planet. Right now China is looking like a strong candidate in the next decade or so.
And my poor Death Knight that couldn't afford an icon.
All it'd really take to get the rest of the world motivated is if the Americans claim they'll be the first to pull it off.
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Aaaaaand I need to get off the internet and catch some sleep. Good night.
And my poor Death Knight that couldn't afford an icon.
s'only a hundred and fifty miles.
I'm not saying he'd do it in an afternoon, and I was mostly talking theoretically, saying it don't take much energy to pull yourself out of atmo
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.