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MahoshonenMahoshonen Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Games and Technology
So I was reading the wrestling thread in D&D, reminicing on my brief love of wrestling, and how No Mercy was such an awesome game, and decided I wanted a new wrestling game.

Doesn't matter if it's WWE or TNA, since I'll just use the create-a-wrestler feature to build my own stable of talent. In No Mercy, I created one guy who looked like a cross between Big Boss and Commander Riker and had a finisher called a "Russian Neckbreaker", a Hong Kong team of Hung Lo and Harry Sax, and a big scottish dude who, on reflection, looked like Kratos with a mullet.

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    angrylinuxgeekangrylinuxgeek Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    WCW vs NWO, the only N64 game I truly enjoyed

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    MahoshonenMahoshonen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I was thinking more current-gen, as the two gaming systems I have right now are PS2 and the 360

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    Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you can import then you want King of Colosseum 2 and All Star Pro Wrestling 3 (Yes, Square made a wrestling game. Yes, it was fucking awesome!). Although to be fair both of those games have pretty mind boggling and also fairly limited appearance edit modes.
    If you can't then you want Fire Pro Wrestling returns---unless you're the kind of cat who needs teh graffix since FPR pretty much still looks like a SNES game. Its create mode is arguably superior to the two 3D games if you are willing to put the time into it, I also find the AI edit to be easier to get to grips with once you understand the mistrlantion in the US version.

    All the rest are awful. As in they are beyond redemption they are so bad and anybody who tells you otherwise is pretty much crazy*.




    *To be far I found the newest Smackdown Vs Raw to be a more solid outing than it has been in a long time. However it's still a pretty poor depiction of what wrestling is supposed to be compared to the Spike and Square outings. To the point where you might as well just get a good fighting game instead.

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For a "Modern" One, get Fire Pro Returns for the PS2.

    All the other Wrestling games from the PS2 gen on blow. Def Jam Vendetta is good, but sadly there's no CAW (also the match modes are few).

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    h8b1llg8tsh8b1llg8ts Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I would like to hear too if Fire Pro Wrestling PS2 is as good as they say. Especially, for a gamer who dislikes Wrestling in general but loves Pro Wrestling for the NES ...

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    Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    fire pro wrestling returns is entirely as good as they say. i would go as far as to proclaim that it totally rules.

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    ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The only concern is that once you get really good the game becomes quite easy unless you have a friend to play against.

    EWR is a free strategy Pro Wrestling simmulation game for the PC. Book matches, start feuds, read commentary. It's great!

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ANTVGM64 wrote: »
    The only concern is that once you get really good the game becomes quite easy unless you have a friend to play against.

    EWR is a free strategy Pro Wrestling simmulation game for the PC. Book matches, start feuds, read commentary. It's great!

    A friend of mine used to play a game like that way back when. Generally, all the champions we had in real life ended up being champions in the simulations. It was freakishly accurate.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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    PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    fuckyou sporky, i was going to say that

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    Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I could never get into the Fire Pro games and I generally enjoy the Smackdown games. I guess I'm more of a sports entertainment guy. The latest SvR is in my GameQ. I've heard good things but haven't played it yet.

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    ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You could give Rumble Roses a try... Why are you looking at me like that? :oops: :winky:

    It wasn't too bad. It played a little better than the WWE games anyway. Or at least I thought it did.

    Other than that if you can go old school and pick up

    WWF No Mercy N64
    Pro Wrestling NES
    Tecmo World Wrestling (?) NES you actuly trained your guy and the special moves were all in cinematics once excuted.

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    acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I felt like wrestling games took a direction that I absolutely hated after WCW vs NWO Revenge on the N64. I hated the way anything newer than that played up until I gave up on wrastlin' all together and am pretty much completely out of the loop for newer ones :_(

    I tried one of the most recent MMA style games and still hated the way input was handled (press buttons to fight, someone catches you then its like a scramble to see who can put like 6-12 button inputs in the fastest and most accurately.

    Is this how most newer wrastlin games are, or am I completely out of the loop?

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    citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    In terms of sheer gameplay fun, Fire Pro is the best wrestling game series ever.

    Ever.

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    Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I felt like wrestling games took a direction that I absolutely hated after WCW vs NWO Revenge on the N64. I hated the way anything newer than that played up until I gave up on wrastlin' all together and am pretty much completely out of the loop for newer ones :_(

    I tried one of the most recent MMA style games and still hated the way input was handled (press buttons to fight, someone catches you then its like a scramble to see who can put like 6-12 button inputs in the fastest and most accurately.

    Is this how most newer wrastlin games are, or am I completely out of the loop?
    The newer wrasslin' games are definitely not like that. Completely different system. You press buttons (augmenting them with directional movement) or move the right analog to do moves, while mashing buttons on occasion when you are knocked down or pinned.

    The last couple of Smackdown VS. Raw years have an impressive Create-A-Wresler mode which allows you to make any character you want in terms of both appearance and moves. It's possibly one of the most robust character creators in ANY game and puts nearly all RPGs to shame (save for possibly CoX and Freedom Force, but those games are made for superheroes). I've seen some fairly good representations of Street Fighter (Capcom), as well as some other fun things (the Scout from TF2, various superheroes/villains, etc.).

    Other than that... well, the gameplay is wrestling. What are you looking for, really?

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    ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The thing with wrestling games for me, anyway, is that

    A) a match NEEDS to be competitive. When I played the old Smackdown games, HTCP, or Smackdown Vs. Raw there was never a doubt I would win.

    B) Highspots - There needs to be a special once in a 50 match counter or something that gives a match a special flair, extra kick-outs and momentum swings, and what have you

    C) Presentation, presentation, presentation if the comentary is going to suck, ditch it. If moves don't realisitc, ditch it. Any so on.

    Of course I could be wrong and the newest SD vs. RAW game could be challenging and thoroughly entertaining.

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    ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SVR 09 is generally pretty easy, but you can adjust it to be as hard as you want (CPU reversal/counter rates, finisher damage, how fast the gauge fills up, etc). The commentary sucks balls, though, and high spots are never worth it.

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    Capt HowdyCapt Howdy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you had a Wii or GC, WWE Day of Reckoning 1 & 2. The wrestling mechanics are better than SvsR, and I liked the CAW and CAE better too.

    The new SvsR is pretty decent on the PS3. I didn't rent it for the 360 tho, sorry.

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    mrsnackroadmrsnackroad Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    dragonsama wrote: »
    You could give Rumble Roses a try... Why are you looking at me like that? :oops: :winky:

    It wasn't too bad. It played a little better than the WWE games anyway. Or at least I thought it did.

    Seconding this.

    Get past the "lol jiggly girls" exterior, and you've got a fun arcadey wrestling game that's actually fun to play - I haven't found the 360 sequel, but it sounds like it was just more of the same... which, actually, is kind of what I'd expect it to be.

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    Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I like SvR 2009, since I got it cheap, and while it feels a little better in terms of the general base, it also feels REALLY small compared to 2008 for some reason.

    There's only a select few Road-To-Wrestlemania plays (And I don't think there's going to be anymore, but if there are, there won't be that many), the Career mode is basically "Beat these guys. Do a special match. Win a title. Repeat." If you're taking your CAW through that, it takes FOREVER to get your Superstar rating to anything good. It's just not worth it. Oh, and they removed Create-a-Championship which isn't a -big- thing, but hell, I loved them. Create-a-Finisher is painfully limited.

    I dunno, for what I get the SvR games for (Creating a CAW, building it up, copy/edit, copy/edit, super roster.) 2009 doesn't deliver.

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    ANTVGM64ANTVGM64 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DOR 1 and 2 were some of the best wrestling games I've played. If only they had online play.

    it was also the only wrestling game to date that has gotten the Hell in the Cell exactly right. Just epic enough.

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    AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Avoid SvR08, what a piece of shit. 07 was good, though. I haven't tried 09 yet because 08 was such a piece of shit.

    I like Fire Pro but, for some reason, only as a portable game. The PS2 versions just haven't been able to hold my attention since the 90s.

    Rumble Roses for PS2 was actually really fun. You feel a bit pervy but good lord the story mode is HILARIOUS!

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For a "Modern" One, get Fire Pro Returns for the PS2.

    All the other Wrestling games from the PS2 gen on blow. Def Jam Vendetta is good, but sadly there's no CAW (also the match modes are few).

    Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain was one of the best wrestling games in the PS2 and one of the better wrestling games period. I think it was the highpoint of the series.

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    Page-Page- Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Played the last few SvR games pretty extensively. The create features are very nice, but the gameplay is lacking.

    First, there are TERRIBLE clipping issues. Just ridiculous the stuff that misses (or doesn't), especially with weapons. With tables you're morel likely to eat a counter than actually hit anyone, which is dumb.

    Second, the extra gameplay features are broken as fuck. Especially in the last one (I think 08), where you could give your wrestler 2 proficiencies, like "Showman," or "Dirty." The idea is nice, but the problem is that some of them are absolutely worthless, and some of them are just broken. It got to the point where we just had to ban certain proficiencies because if you got them you'd just win. The worst was "Technical," which let you activate an invisible auto-counter mode, where you just could not be hit. After that you had "Brawler," which let made all your strikes immune to counters, so if you got that you could just wreck shop (mount and pummel) 3 or 4 times in a row for free, which would always give you blood and always put their head into the red. After that you could take your sweet time winning the match however you liked. Just dumb.

    I don't think I've tried 09 yet, maybe they fixed that stuff. I sure hope so.

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    MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For a "Modern" One, get Fire Pro Returns for the PS2.

    All the other Wrestling games from the PS2 gen on blow. Def Jam Vendetta is good, but sadly there's no CAW (also the match modes are few).
    Fight for NY has a limited CAW, but I've never played Vendetta so I can't compare the playability of both. I just know I had a lot of fun tossing people into oncoming subway trains...

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The TNA game was really lacking in tons of area, but it probably has the best "feel" of any wrestling game in a long time. The animations, counters, movement all look fluid and right.

    I doubt there will be a sequel though. It'll probably be worth picking up when it's really, really cheap.

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    MattieMattie Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    WM X9 for the Gamecube. It has the best gameplay of any wrestler I've ever played. The story mode is absolute trash but its got one of the better rosters of any of the last 2 games.

    Angle vs Lesnar Iron Man matches were legendary.

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    Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Of the modern games, I here Fire Pro is the best, but I never had a PS2 so I missed out. No Mercy is still my favourite of all time, though. Def Jam Fight for New York has the exact same mechanics, wrapped in a hip-hop exterior. I would love the engine of FFNY with the WWE license.

    There was a rumour a few months back in EGM that they were taking No Mercy, updating the roster, and releasing it on Wii Ware. That would be the best. I wish for this every day.

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For a "Modern" One, get Fire Pro Returns for the PS2.

    All the other Wrestling games from the PS2 gen on blow. Def Jam Vendetta is good, but sadly there's no CAW (also the match modes are few).
    Fight for NY has a limited CAW, but I've never played Vendetta so I can't compare the playability of both. I just know I had a lot of fun tossing people into oncoming subway trains...

    I didn't really recommend Fight for NY because while I love it, it's less a wrestling game and more a brawler (no 3 count fall matches, for example) and the counter tree is WAY simplified over AKIs previous efforts, which turns some people off.

    As for the SvR series, I find the gameplay to be abjectly terrible. Nobody sells moves anymore, the counters are more random than i'd prefer, and the characters move and respond in a floaty matter. Keep in mind though, i'm a HUGE AKI defender, so while I may not like it, you should give it a shot to see if you do.

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    Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The counters are my only real complaint about the SvR games. Even when set to their lowest, they still happen way too often.

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    ParkingtigersParkingtigers Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I have never bought a wrestling game, and I don't think I ever will, but I had a friend who was a real wrestling nut back in the N64 day. He bought every single game that came out, would learn every single combo and special move, then would lose every single match to my random button mashing technique.

    Good times.

    Anyone remember which N64 wrestling game had a 4-player, 40 man royal rumble mode? It was just an endless mayhem where you all competed to ring out as many wrestlers as possible. I remember that being awesome the one time 4 of us sat down to play it.

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    Dyvim TvarDyvim Tvar Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I am a little dissapointed in myself for forgetting to mention Rumble Roses. It has a real AKI feel to its system in more than a few ways and if you can get past the general pervyness of the whole thing it's an awful lot of fun. Sadly the 360 installment pretty much does away with the awesomely campy story mode, but it does add in what basically adds up to the moveset of Cheerleader Melissa, so that's nice.

    For me personally Fire Pro is probably the best game available because, even though I preffer the slower "strong-style" simulation of King of Colosseum, when you get bored of the gameplay you can graduate into the simming element which adds a whole new dimension to the experience.

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    MugenmidgetMugenmidget Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    For a "Modern" One, get Fire Pro Returns for the PS2.

    All the other Wrestling games from the PS2 gen on blow. Def Jam Vendetta is good, but sadly there's no CAW (also the match modes are few).
    Fight for NY has a limited CAW, but I've never played Vendetta so I can't compare the playability of both. I just know I had a lot of fun tossing people into oncoming subway trains...

    I didn't really recommend Fight for NY because while I love it, it's less a wrestling game and more a brawler (no 3 count fall matches, for example) and the counter tree is WAY simplified over AKIs previous efforts, which turns some people off.
    I wasn't aware of that, now I think I'm gonna seek it out. Thanks!

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    projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I bought a N64 for WWF No Mercy, I suggest you do the same.

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    MahoshonenMahoshonen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I ordered Pro Fire from Amazon. Can't wait to try it out.

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    Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I traded in Fight for New York the minute Def Jam Icon was announced. I expected a next-gen version of FFNY packed with awesomeness. It apparently is not exactly as I expected. I never played it since they changed everthing and made it bad.

    I need to find an old version of FFNY. So good if you like the No Mercy style.

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    Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I enjoyed the General Manager mode of SvR07. Are there any good GM games out there?

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    truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I would second the idea of buying a N64 for the enjoyment of No Mercy or WCW vs. NWO. The pure awesomeness of those games is system purchasing worthy. I've tried the more modern offerings of the Gamecube/Xbox era, and now even Xbox360 offerings and no game is yet to be as much fun as those N64 ones.

    They all feel like arcade brawler, button mashing oriented. To be fair on the 360 I have only tried the demos on LIVE. But just based on what I've seen there is no equal to the power of AKI man.

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    SmokeScreenSmokeScreen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Speaking of wrestling games, can anyone recommend some PC text based wrestling games? You know, where you can play as a general manager setting up matches and running a federation. Or where you play as a single wrestler trying to make it to the top? In other words, wrestling sims. I remember my friends and I having a lot of fun with programs like that in highschool, are those even still around?

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