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Disposing of an ailing 360 without being a jackass

cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So my old 360 started developing disk drive problems. On absolutely pristine disks, it would make this horrible clicking sound and not load up the disk four out of five attempts. On a disk with the tiniest of imperfections, that would leap up to eleven out of every twelve attempts. It kept failing more often, so I just bought a new Arcade. The drive works wonderfully, and it's a Jasper to boot.

My big question is, what to do with the old 360?

Since it doesn't reliably work, I'd be an ass to sell it to a typical second-hand store. But since it mostly works, I'd hate to just trash it. Is there such a thing as a market for 360 parts? That is, sell it to some tech-head who could cut it up and use the parts for something else? Or am I just stuck?

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    WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Phone Microsoft and find out how much it would be for a repair, and then see if someone wants to buy it for that amount, or whatever you feel is fair if you want to make some money back off your Arcade unit.

    You could even register the machine to them if it's not already, so they won't have any issues in future it it does break again.

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    theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I know back when I worked at Gamestop, we bought broken systems to ship back and get refurbished. It's not for much, but it's better than nothing. Also, if you look on ebay, certain types of electronics still sell well when broken (I assume the parts are still valuable). I don't know if 360s count, but it's worth a look.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    yea you could probably ebay it as a 360 with a bad disk drive. People do buy them for parts. Just make sure if you sell it that you EXPLICITLY state what is wrong with it to avoid any troubles if the buyer complains.

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I had a similar issue with my 360. Bought it a year after launch and enjoyed it thoroughly until it RRoDed on me this past fall a month out of extended warranty. I went out and got myself a shiny new Arcade machine and popped my old hard drive on it.

    I actually have a friend who's an electrical engineer and spends a lot of his free time modding electronics. I packed it up and shipped it out to him, and he's playing around with it seeing what can be done/improved. If that sort of thing isn't an option, you could always ebay it "as it" or see if a buddy wants a system for the cost of the repair + some, as Willeth suggested. You shouldn't get much for a mostly broken system, I believe.

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    blakfeldblakfeld Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gamestop won't take it. I played that card earlier this week sadly.

    I'm bought an arcade, but for fun I'm going to tear it open and see what can be seen

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ebay it as a "failing" unit.. you'll get at least $50 for it

    or buy a $30 replacement disk drive, fix it yourself and have two

    god knows they love to fail, so i keep mine in rotation (RROD -> broken fan -> broken disk drive, so far :lol: )

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    EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    My disk drive is the same. How do you buy and install a replacement disk drive?

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    Fizban140Fizban140 Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    It depends if you consider this being a jackass. Buy a 360 from wal mart, take it out of the box and put your old one in it. Return it with the receipt in the new box and you will have your money back and a new 360.

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    GdiguyGdiguy San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    It depends if you consider this being a jackass. Buy a 360 from wal mart, take it out of the box and put your old one in it. Return it with the receipt in the new box and you will have your money back and a new 360.

    Um, yeah, fraud would probably count as being a jackass

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gdiguy wrote: »
    Fizban140 wrote: »
    It depends if you consider this being a jackass. Buy a 360 from wal mart, take it out of the box and put your old one in it. Return it with the receipt in the new box and you will have your money back and a new 360.

    Um, yeah, fraud would probably count as being a jackass

    As well as, you know, illegal.

    Poke around on ebay, look at the costs of dead/dying 360s there. If they sound fine to you, toss it up. If not, balance the cost of a repair from Microsoft with selling it fully functional.

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    OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Here's something being marketed as a replacement disc drive on eBay. $31. I can't imagine it being too hard to replace if you Google up some directions.

    Once fixed, you could congratulate yourself on having two 360s or just sell it as working without the load on your conscience.

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    StudioAudienceStudioAudience Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Maybe just hang on to it and use it as a netflix/media player in another room? The cost of the most basic netflix service that offers unlimited "on demand" is like 8-9 bucks/month I think. It's a pretty good bargain for the amount of stuff that they have available.

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OremLK wrote: »
    Here's something being marketed as a replacement disc drive on eBay. $31. I can't imagine it being too hard to replace if you Google up some directions.

    Once fixed, you could congratulate yourself on having two 360s or just sell it as working without the load on your conscience.

    Actually you also have to flash the firmware on the new drive to match your old one... but that's trivial

    And it means that for the cost of a new drive (and possibly a SATA card for your PC), you have a 2nd xbox.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    illig wrote: »
    OremLK wrote: »
    Here's something being marketed as a replacement disc drive on eBay. $31. I can't imagine it being too hard to replace if you Google up some directions.

    Once fixed, you could congratulate yourself on having two 360s or just sell it as working without the load on your conscience.

    Actually you also have to flash the firmware on the new drive to match your old one... but that's trivial

    And it means that for the cost of a new drive (and possibly a SATA card for your PC), you have a 2nd xbox.

    Hmm, how difficult would this be? I can, say, install new components to my computer or disassemble my PS2 to clean it, but I'm not comfortable with anything more complex than that.

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    WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    There are issues with Live and ethics and I think we had this discussion in the NXE thread already.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Maybe just hang on to it and use it as a netflix/media player in another room? The cost of the most basic netflix service that offers unlimited "on demand" is like 8-9 bucks/month I think. It's a pretty good bargain for the amount of stuff that they have available.

    Actually, if you live in the US and can get netflix that's a really good idea.

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    KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Contact MS for a repair estimate. I bought a PS3 used and it arrived DOA. The entire situation sucked but Sony was aces about fixing it for like $150. You could, in theory, get yours fixed from MS then simply sell a used (and now freshly factory refurbished -- in fact, Sony just swapped out my PS3 for a brand new one) on eBay for a profit.

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    urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Put it on ebay and explain what's going on with it. I'm sure more shady people will do something with it, but it's not your problem after you sell it.

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    GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    urahonky wrote: »
    Put it on ebay and explain what's going on with it. I'm sure more shady people will do something with it, but it's not your problem after you sell it.

    Many people buy broken consoles specifically to repair and re-sell them, so there's a decent market out there. They're not necessarily pawning it off on someone else :P

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    Chop LogicChop Logic Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I would call these guys:

    www.360-pros.com

    They are located about an hour from me, we once brought my friends broken 360 there and showed up at 6, when they were closing. They must have guys that used to work for Microsoft there or something because they fixed it in about 20/30 minutes while we waited there (it had the red rings of death, but their card says they do disk drive problems). Also, they upgraded all the cooling systems and everything for free. They would at least be able to tell you what to do I think.

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    OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    illig wrote: »
    OremLK wrote: »
    Here's something being marketed as a replacement disc drive on eBay. $31. I can't imagine it being too hard to replace if you Google up some directions.

    Once fixed, you could congratulate yourself on having two 360s or just sell it as working without the load on your conscience.

    Actually you also have to flash the firmware on the new drive to match your old one... but that's trivial

    And it means that for the cost of a new drive (and possibly a SATA card for your PC), you have a 2nd xbox.

    Hmm, how difficult would this be? I can, say, install new components to my computer or disassemble my PS2 to clean it, but I'm not comfortable with anything more complex than that.

    The hardware part probably won't be much (if any) more difficult than swapping a CD/DVD drive out on your computer, but you do have to flash the firmware, and I'm not sure how hard that will be. There are directions for the whole process out there, though, so if you Google some up I'm sure you could figure it out.

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    illigillig Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    illig wrote: »
    OremLK wrote: »
    Here's something being marketed as a replacement disc drive on eBay. $31. I can't imagine it being too hard to replace if you Google up some directions.

    Once fixed, you could congratulate yourself on having two 360s or just sell it as working without the load on your conscience.

    Actually you also have to flash the firmware on the new drive to match your old one... but that's trivial

    And it means that for the cost of a new drive (and possibly a SATA card for your PC), you have a 2nd xbox.

    Hmm, how difficult would this be? I can, say, install new components to my computer or disassemble my PS2 to clean it, but I'm not comfortable with anything more complex than that.

    it's very simple if you have a compatible SATA chipset in your PC.. if not, you also have to invest in a $12 SATA card (that's what I did)

    honestly, the hardest part is getting the 360 open, but there are a lot of tutorials (and youtoobs) about the process.

    then you follow very simple directions to copy the firmware off your old drive and onto the new one... it's a bunch of bootable linux (i think?) apps that run off a CD... similar to flashing any other firmware or BIOS if you've done it

    i modded my 2nd (RROD fixed) xbox to read burned games, and now my original has failed, so i'll be doing this repair myself shortly

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