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I Want To Walk Around With You -- Poop Music but not the kind Keith Likes

sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
edited February 2009 in Social Entropy++
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So the new Animal Collective album, Merriweather Post Pavilion came out last Tuesday and it's pretty incredible. Well, this song is pretty incredible. I haven't actually heard the rest of the album yet since I can't stop listening to this one, but once I've got it out of my system I'm sure I'll enjoy the whole thing.

Why is this so much better than the other shit Animal Collective's done? Because of pop. Yeah it's still interesting and weird and electronic but goddamnit it's a dude singing about how he wants to go on a walk with a girl and it's got catchy hooks and lovely melodies and chirping birds.

Yes, boys and girls, pop music. No not that Britney's Back shit, I'm talking about the good shit, including the best of the best:

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From Surfin' Safari to Pet Sounds and Smiley Smile -- pretty much anyone who's made pop music since these guys is indebted to them. Lush production, beautiful melody, harmonies like no one else, and plenty of teen angst and bubbly lyrics with a bit of an acid trip thrown in at the end, they had it all.

But pop can be sad too, like this dude who eventually stabbed himself in the chest and died:

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Sure his stuff, especially early on, was so personal it bordered on uncomfortable and so melancholy that listening to a whole album at a time can be an emotionally draining experience, but it was pretty as all hell. Personal, evocative, melodic guitar-plucking and lovelorn poetry on Either/Or gave way to produced, arranged, even orchestral pop on his later albums like XO, but Elliott Smith always knew how to make beautiful pop music.

And of course the ultimate badge of indie-pop love:

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Belle and Sebastian's If You're Feeling Sinister was heard ad nauseam in many a college sophomore's apartment in the late '90s. These Scottish kids continue to make slightly melancholic chamber pop with the best of 'em, even if hipster kids aren't allowed to like them anymore.

So, what do you listen to when you want to hear boys with high voices sing about the girls they wish they had and flowery pianos and carefully plucked guitars? Fuck that boring folk shit, the amelodic experimental noise, the dirty rock and roll, and that damnable hippity hop.

Think pretty, SE++.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh you mean good pop music

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    BusterK wrote: »
    Oh you mean good pop music

    Right. I thought the title made that clear.

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Don't feel like posting my favorites in here right now, but I'll be back a little later. Or if Nads posts, he's got a lot of my stuff covered

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    FabricateFabricate __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Merriweather Post Pavilion is excellent

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited January 2009
    So, what do you listen to when you want to hear boys with high voices sing about the girls they wish they had and flowery pianos and carefully plucked guitars?

    Dashboard Confessional
    Simple Plan
    Get Up Kids

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    Keith wrote: »
    So, what do you listen to when you want to hear boys with high voices sing about the girls they wish they had and flowery pianos and carefully plucked guitars?

    Dashboard Confessional
    Simple Plan
    Get Up Kids

    I hope you never have sex

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    Fabricate wrote: »
    Merriweather Post Pavilion is excellent

    I know, right? It's like they got done exploring, and decided that accessibility isn't so bad after all. It just feels like a much more mature album, and also one that is nearly impossible to stop listening to.

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Pop music is music you can't be pretentious/scruffy bohemian about

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    Rock Lobster!Rock Lobster! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I really like The Get Up Kids.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited January 2009
    that song you linked in the first post (Summertime Clothes?) is a piece of shit

    it's absolutely horrible

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    finally a thread for me

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    This album has a lot of great songs on it

    Personally, I am a huge fan of If you seek amy, phonography, and circus

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Pop music is music you can't be pretentious/scruffy bohemian about

    Clearly you didn't read the OP or watch High Fidelity and have never gone to pitchfork.com or met a hipster.

    Seriously though, I don't think many people really think of "pop" music as literally meaning popular music. I think of it as more of a sound and a style of music than anything. A lighter, prettier, bubblier kind of music. It might appear more superficial at first glance but the best stuff is really just as complex and interesting as anything else out there.

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    Kovak I introduced you to marijuana.

    Why are you doing this to me.

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited January 2009
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Pop music is music you can't be pretentious/scruffy bohemian about

    indie pop is for people that want to be dicks about music but who can't be bothered to try picking up a guitar

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    backwards

    i love you man

    but

    britney

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited January 2009
    redeemer/kovak what are your opinions on Kelly's new single

    i've listened to it like 40 times in the past three days

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Redeemer wrote: »
    Pop music is music you can't be pretentious/scruffy bohemian about

    Clearly you didn't read the OP or watch High Fidelity and have never gone to pitchfork.com or met a hipster

    No I've done all those things

    I just don't think SE and I are music compatible

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I have not heard kelly's new single

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Also the new pornographers are probably still my favorite

    indie pop band

    they got some fantastic

    mellow

    dees

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I like it, Keith. I just hope her new album is more like BREAKAWAY than MY DECEMBER

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    FutoreFutore Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I really want the instrumental versions of a lot of Decemberists and Modest Mouse stuff so that I can have background music while I can write without being distracted by the lyrics

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    Screaming JazzScreaming Jazz Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Brian Wilson's new stuff always makes me listen to a my entire Beach Boys collection. Pet Sounds still amazes me everytime

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Recently a favorite hiphopist of mine has moved into making rockpop I guess

    everyone check this new fresh sound from

    Lil Wayne

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    AWinnerIsYouAWinnerIsYou Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Animal Collective album is fucking amazing. It's pop-ish, but it's weird like Strawberry Jam was. Which is good. And one of the guys didn't even work on this album and it's still amazing. I think Bluish is my favorite track so far.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, what do you listen to when you want to hear boys with high voices sing about the girls they wish they had and flowery pianos and carefully plucked guitars?
    Think pretty, SE++.

    Appleseed Cast
    Mineral
    Jonah's One Line Drawing

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    Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited January 2009
    Redeemer wrote: »
    I like it, Keith. I just hope her new album is more like BREAKAWAY than MY DECEMBER

    me too

    what do you think of this cover

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZj2_LFb6k

    (i love it)

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    Kovak wrote: »
    Also the new pornographers are probably still my favorite

    indie pop band

    they got some fantastic

    mellow

    dees

    The New Pornographers might be my favorite pop band of all time. Mass Romantic is probably in my top five favorite albums.

    It's got a bit more of a rock-and-roll mentality than most, and it's a bit faster and louder but it is still pop at it's heart. I just love how incredibly layered it is, and the way they constantly build and demolish their songs by adding and removing layers, tempo changes, brilliant transitions.

    If I could make an album that sounded like Mass Romantic-era New Pornographers I could die happy

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    here is a review of lil wayne's new song by

    atlyung, youtube poster
    atlyung wrote:
    i don't give a fuck wat these haters say this song is fucking hot i am not even a fan of rock i jus like rap but i am feeling this song he is still a rapper he jus branching out and touching base with other audience thats how u make money he is still the best rapper he is about to come out wioth a new album this year i think it 's gonna be the carter 4 and all ya'll fucking hater ya'll on his dick he still gonna get paid even thru all this bitch ass girlie hating

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    redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    love animal collective so much

    I don't really agree that this new album is better than all their other stuff, but hey

    we can agree that it's excellent for sure

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kovak wrote: »
    Also the new pornographers are probably still my favorite

    indie pop band

    they got some fantastic

    mellow

    dees

    The New Pornographers might be my favorite pop band of all time. Mass Romantic is probably in my top five favorite albums.

    It's got a bit more of a rock-and-roll mentality than most, and it's a bit faster and louder but it is still pop at it's heart. I just love how incredibly layered it is, and the way they constantly build and demolish their songs by adding and removing layers, tempo changes, brilliant transitions.

    If I could make an album that sounded like Mass Romantic-era New Pornographers I could die happy

    seriously every time I listen to like rockpop

    it's always the new pornographers

    they're just the best

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    Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kovak wrote: »
    here is a review of lil wayne's new song by

    atlyung, youtube poster
    atlyung wrote:
    i don't give a fuck wat these haters say this song is fucking hot i am not even a fan of rock i jus like rap but i am feeling this song he is still a rapper he jus branching out and touching base with other audience thats how u make money he is still the best rapper he is about to come out wioth a new album this year i think it 's gonna be the carter 4 and all ya'll fucking hater ya'll on his dick he still gonna get paid even thru all this bitch ass girlie hating
    that is the best thing i've ever read

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    The Animal Collective album is fucking amazing. It's pop-ish, but it's weird like Strawberry Jam was. Which is good. And one of the guys didn't even work on this album and it's still amazing. I think Bluish is my favorite track so far.

    It seems like something that would have been produced by Van Dyke Parks, which is a pretty high compliment in my book, given that he and Wilson are responsible for Smiley Smile.

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    Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I keep meaning to listen to Animal Collective but i've kind of been moving away from pop recently

    it's probably because i'm listening to a bunch of metal before the bomb ass Scion Rock Festival in February

    BUT the last indie pope band i listened to was Los Campesinos! and they are excellent

    also the new Decemberists single is really awesome and i'm hell of excited for Hazards of Love

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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Keith wrote: »
    Redeemer wrote: »
    I like it, Keith. I just hope her new album is more like BREAKAWAY than MY DECEMBER

    me too

    what do you think of this cover

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZj2_LFb6k

    (i love it)

    That was pretty good actually

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    Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    i also have a friend who refuses to think of the term "pop music" as anything but stuff like Britney Spears

    it's kind of upsetting

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    wait is this a pretentious thread about pop music

    is this what this is

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    redhead wrote: »
    love animal collective so much

    I don't really agree that this new album is better than all their other stuff, but hey

    we can agree that it's excellent for sure

    oh I love Sung Tongs and Strawberry Jam and all that good stuff, but something about MPP just feels more complete. I mean, using the same chord for five minutes straight (Purple Bottle, anyone?) and weird, amelodic yelping are interesting choices, and I like those songs, but it's not always exactly easy to listen to, you know?

    What I love about MPP is they didn't sacrifice any of that distinctiveness but it's like they got back to the roots of Pop. You can hear echoes of the Beatles and the Beach Boys in it, and it's all so fucking catchy. In retrospect it makes all the rest of their stuff feel like one big buildup to this album.

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    sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited January 2009
    wait is this a pretentious thread about pop music

    is this what this is

    that is exactly what it is, yes

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    KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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    RedeemerRedeemer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Of course nothing beats Mandy Moore's cover of Umbrella

    Not even Marie Digby's, which is overrated and boring if you ask me

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