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Linux Ubuntu installation issues

shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
ok, now i have a new problem :|


i've reformatted my aunt's hard drive and installed xp home, leaving two partitions blank, one for storage, and one to install unbuntu
every time i try to install ubuntu and click on the "manual" button thingie to pick a partition, i click on the partition i made specifically for linux, and it keeps telling me something along the lines of "no root file system cannot be used"

what am i doing wrong? should i have installed linux first?

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    ok, now i have a new problem :|


    i've reformatted my aunt's hard drive and installed xp home, leaving two partitions blank, one for storage, and one to install unbuntu
    every time i try to install ubuntu and click on the "manual" button thingie to pick a partition, i click on the partition i made specifically for linux, and it keeps telling me something along the lines of "no root file system cannot be used"

    what am i doing wrong? should i have installed linux first?

    There's a Linux thread in Moe's Technology Forum, and you would have been better served by posting it there.

    Did you specify a mount point for the root filesystem? If you neglected to do that and had it formatted with a filesystem (typically ext3) then that is probably what is causing that error.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Barrakketh wrote: »
    There's a Linux thread in Moe's Technology Forum, and you would have been better served by posting it there.

    Did you specify a mount point for the root filesystem? If you neglected to do that and had it formatted with a filesystem (typically ext3) then that is probably what is causing that error.

    i don't really know a whole lot about linux. we had a few computers at school that had linux installed on them, but we didn't really touch on how it runs and such, so im kind of clueless as to what to do here

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    When you created the partitions in and for linux, when asked to make the root partition did you set a mount point to "/" ? If not that is most likely the reason why. Their auto-install tools may be bugged, but it seemed to work for me about a half hour ago when I did a dual boot system.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    "/" is what Linux looks for like Windows looks for "C"

    (Is that right Linux guys?)

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    "/" is what Linux looks for like Windows looks for "C"

    (Is that right Linux guys?)

    More or less.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    When you created the partitions in and for linux, when asked to make the root partition did you set a mount point to "/" ? If not that is most likely the reason why. Their auto-install tools may be bugged, but it seemed to work for me about a half hour ago when I did a dual boot system.

    ooooo, that's all i have to do? sweet
    i'll give it a try when im in the shop tomorrow, don't really have time today
    thanks!

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    "/" is what Linux looks for like Windows looks for "C"

    (Is that right Linux guys?)

    More or less.

    Basically.

    It's actually more complicated than that because Linux doesn't do the whole drive name thing like Windows does, but for someone who is completely unfamiliar with how Linux handles storage devices and partitions that is the easiest way to explain it without confusing them.
    bowen wrote: »
    When you created the partitions in and for linux, when asked to make the root partition did you set a mount point to "/" ? If not that is most likely the reason why. Their auto-install tools may be bugged, but it seemed to work for me about a half hour ago when I did a dual boot system.

    ooooo, that's all i have to do? sweet
    i'll give it a try when im in the shop tomorrow, don't really have time today
    thanks!

    Make sure to select the "ext3" filesystem type, because I think the installer defaults to something else on manual.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    yeah, you have to set the partition mount point to "/"

    It should be in the partitioning config section somewhere.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    yay! it worked! thankies y'all :)

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    having another linux install problem >_<
    this time it's for my own computer.
    i pop the cd in and boot to it, then go through all the prompts and all that fun stuff to install
    when i get to the partitioner screen, for some reason, there are no hard disks shown in the list for me to install the OS on.
    i tried clicking on the manual install button, and again found no partitions to install on.
    anyone have any clue what the problem is, and how i can solve it without having to reformat the whole hard drive?
    could it be that i used an... uh... crack cd to install xp on it?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    RAID array?

    Does BIOS pick up the drive?

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    nope, didn't set up any arrays or anything
    there's only one hard drive, but it has 3 partitions
    the setup for linux doesn't see any of them...

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Well you may not have set up arrays, but it may be on a controller that requires array drivers. Weirder things have been known to happen.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    >_<
    well, can't look at it now. at work.
    i'll take a look when i get home

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    grrr, i got a copy of vista and installed it on my system, and ubuntu still won't install :/
    i was wondering if it was 'cause my version of xp is a crack, but i bought a copy of vista, and it still doesn't work
    does anyone have a clue what the problem is?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If Windows Vista sees the drive, but Ubuntu or XP won't, I'm almost 100% positive this is a raid driver issue.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    If Windows Vista sees the drive, but Ubuntu or XP won't, I'm almost 100% positive this is a raid driver issue.

    Yep. put the linux drivers on a floppy or USB disk.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    both vista and xp recognize the drive. i haven't formatted it or anything, so it's still raw or whatever.

    the only os that doesn't see it, or any partion, is linux

    i'll try putting the drivers on a flask disk tomorrow. don't have a floppy drive on this system

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It's quite possible that xp had been originally installed with the drivers.

    Disable the raid and/or switch the port to the non-raid portion of the motherboard. If it's a single hard drive there's no mirroring or anything going on so it's ultimately pointless. Other than to go "Hey look I got this hooked up to my raid card and am going to make my life difficult to fix or troubleshoot issues in the future."

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    i popped a second hard drive in the other day, but i had the problem before i installed the second drive
    i also had partitioned the original hard drive in the system...

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you're attaching it to the same RAID array you're likely to run into the same issue numerous times.

    On the motherboard, assuming SATA and that the motherboard is fairly recent, you should see a whole slew of SATA connectors. A few of these should be a different color from the rest (usually red and black). Move the cable to a different colored connector. Or find the make of your motherboard and get the linux/winxp drivers.

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  • shmappy2004shmappy2004 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    If you're attaching it to the same RAID array you're likely to run into the same issue numerous times.

    On the motherboard, assuming SATA and that the motherboard is fairly recent, you should see a whole slew of SATA connectors. A few of these should be a different color from the rest (usually red and black). Move the cable to a different colored connector. Or find the make of your motherboard and get the linux/winxp drivers.

    the whole system is fairly new. i bought all the parts back in december and was able to build it in january, so the system is only almost 2 months old. i think it has about 6 SATA connecters and one IDE connector. the main hard drive that has the operating systems on it is connected to the 1 slot, and the secondary hard drive connected to the 2 slot.

    you think i should/can go to the motherboard maker's website and find the linux drivers there?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Yes, that would be my guess.

    You probably have 2 RAID (0,1) and probably 4 non-RAID (2,3,4,5). Try moving it to 4 or something to see if it picks up.

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