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[WoW] Hunters: Misdirection kills, just ask that priest that mouthed off at me
Although you don't really need the exists/nodead for the pet since you can just let the macro spit an error message at you about not having a pet if none of the other conditions are met.
I still don't understand how that works. As far as I know, for at least a couple years you haven't been able to set up a priority macro like that unless only one of the abilities is on a GCD. I think the "macro parsing logic" goes:
- Can I cast Kill Command? Yes? Do it (GCD goes off so that macro press isn't doing anything else).
- Can I cast Kill Command? No? Then I'm done.
Is KC not on the GCD or something? Because I could swear it was as of 4.0.
Edit: Unless there's some crazy weird exception with KC due to the way it's not a direct ability and just sets the pet off to do something.
Now im going to have to check when I get home. Im pretty sure it was working properly since i saw such a large increase in the speed things die but it could just be the GCD timer reseting.
I mean I can't say for sure since I haven't atually tried it, but I thought Blizzard intentionally made macros not able to work that way, otherwise priority based classes could do most of their rotation with one button, i.e., a WotLK ret paladin could just do a macro like:
etc. and it would just cast whatever was available first. But you can't actually do that. The macro just tries and fails to cast HoW over and over. I would think it'd work the same way with KC but perhaps it's a weird exception.
Hopefully someone who is more of a macro expert can shed some light on this.
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
KC might be getting a pass because it's basically a pet ability, maybe?
That's what I'm wondering. If Phil (or anyone) reports definite success with it tomorrow, I'm going to have to go make macros out of my main abilities on my hunter and free up a good hotkey!
Although my hunter is one of my lowest priority alts so it won't matter for at least a year.
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
edited December 2010
I just tested it. It fires off one Kill Command, the next click fires off an Arcane Shot, and then it doesn't do anything until Kill Command is available again. Do 1, do 2, go to 1, basically.
Damn this dude was tricky. Stealths in and out and hits hard. With reasonable gear he'll bring you to about half health before the tame is finished.
Is that a....Ghost Crab?
You literally just made my day. I've been worrying over having to choose between my awesome Crab pet and my really neat Ghost Cat and now....there is the best of both worlds!
Where do I find this and what level is it?
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So today while soloing BC heroics for achievements, I accidentally found the most ridiculous glitch. In short, it allows a hunter to have two aspects active at once. And this isn't a visual/display glitch, either.
I don't recommend using this in Raids or PvP or anything like that really, because it is exploiting/abusing a glitch. However, if you want to know how to do it, just for fun (soloing etc) then read below the spoiler:
So the way this works is you have one aspect active already, so Hawk. Then use Camouflage, and during the GCD triggered by Camo, hit another aspect, so Fox for example.
I did Hawk and Wild in this picture. It seems to be limited to 2 aspects only.
Tested this myself just now, works fine if you start in Hawk, didn't work for any other starting aspect for me, though that can be luck, once done, you can change the first one to whatever you like, the second stays until you remove it
Currently I'm BM with a bear, but I was thinking of going MM with a ???
Any leveling advice appreciated
Edit: Leveling 80-85
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Sara LynnI can handle myself.Registered Userregular
edited December 2010
I leveled with a bear until I was like 60something. People teased me because it was a tanking pet but I LOVED MY BEAR. Then I got a wolf from Borean, and now I have a fox.
BM is easytown as far as solo'ing goes, but don't make my mistake and go crazy-solo and ignore all the dungeons. Depending on what level you are, if anyone is running dungeons still, I'd go just for the experience. I've barely instanced on my hunter, and now with Cata out I'm kind of nervous to do it because I'm worried it's going to be a total shitshow.
I leveled with a bear until I was like 60something. People teased me because it was a tanking pet but I LOVED MY BEAR. Then I got a wolf from Borean, and now I have a fox.
BM is easytown as far as solo'ing goes, but don't make my mistake and go crazy-solo and ignore all the dungeons. Depending on what level you are, if anyone is running dungeons still, I'd go just for the experience. I've barely instanced on my hunter, and now with Cata out I'm kind of nervous to do it because I'm worried it's going to be a total shitshow.
I apologize for not being clearer. I was referring to leveling from 80-85, I should have said so.
I leveled with a bear until I was like 60something. People teased me because it was a tanking pet but I LOVED MY BEAR. Then I got a wolf from Borean, and now I have a fox.
BM is easytown as far as solo'ing goes, but don't make my mistake and go crazy-solo and ignore all the dungeons. Depending on what level you are, if anyone is running dungeons still, I'd go just for the experience. I've barely instanced on my hunter, and now with Cata out I'm kind of nervous to do it because I'm worried it's going to be a total shitshow.
I apologize for not being clearer. I was referring to leveling from 80-85, I should have said so.
I used a bear, Thunderstomp is great for grabbing extra mobs (spawn rates are ridiculous sometimes), and the damage reducing aoe debuff helped keep the bear alive.
As MM you might want to keep a Hyena or a Wolf for a dungeon pet, for the extra Bleed damage or the 5% crit buff.
Btw, I'm noticing they never truly scrapped the dead zone since it's apparently still possible for something to be too close for your ranged attack while being out of melee proximity.
Currently I'm BM with a bear, but I was thinking of going MM with a ???
Any leveling advice appreciated
Edit: Leveling 80-85
In terms of just from 80-85, I leveled as Surv with a Beetle. I rarely had any issues with pulling off him, and if I did, I just FD'd. Used Glyph of Misdirect and Glyph of Mending. Specced him for survability moreso than damage (so I took stuff like Blood of the Rhino and Pet Barding opposed to Spiked Collar or Culling the Herd).
What's the heroics spec of choice right now? Is there a good site to hit up for theorycrafting? I'm still running survival, but I'm wondering if I could edge out a little bit more dps if I went MM.
What's the heroics spec of choice right now? Is there a good site to hit up for theorycrafting? I'm still running survival, but I'm wondering if I could edge out a little bit more dps if I went MM.
This is a pretty good article about hunters in the new heroics.
That's definitely latency related, considering your latency in that picture is in the red.
My latency is at 600-700 at worst, not enough to cause any delay. Lag also wouldn't trigger error messages and spell indicators. Plus the ticks from my pet attacks were going off fine.
That's a pretty neat article. I've been enjoying my Survival hunter so far. Can't wait to get to Cata zones though... sitting at 78 getting rest right now.
That's definitely latency related, considering your latency in that picture is in the red.
My latency is at 600-700 at worst, not enough to cause any delay. Lag also wouldn't trigger error messages and spell indicators. Plus the ticks from my pet attacks were going off fine.
I would say that yes, it is latency related, as your pet is standing right next to you with a melee ability going off. Your client just hasn't updated that the mob has moved into melee range. 600-700 is pretty laggy.
I live in Australia and play at 400-500 mostly, and that is noticable enough.
Edit: Was just thinking that pets effectively have a latency of 0, as they are controlled server side. That's why the pet is able to melee, because it got the update that your target moved, much quicker than you at 700ms ping.
Oh, the other reason I can't wait to get to Cata zones is itemization. A *bunch* of Northrend Hunter/Enhancement Shaman rewards still have +Intellect on them, which is annoying as hell.
Oh, the other reason I can't wait to get to Cata zones is itemization. A *bunch* of Northrend Hunter/Enhancement Shaman rewards still have +Intellect on them, which is annoying as hell.
What's bad is they could have gotten an intern to fix all of that stuff at little to no pay.
I was impressed when we ran BWL last night that Vaelastrasz's buff had been updated to regen focus as well. Which was a lot of fun since we still had the buff when we ran into the gauntlet, a couple of minutes of Multishot and Fan of Knives spam.
So, funny story. I bought a new helm from the Wildhammer Clan while I was rushing to get into my Heroics gear. All weekend I've been running heroics (one clear with PUGs, four clears with guildies and about 8 million fails with PUGs), and at the end of the last one, someone asked me why I was wearing the Shaman helm.
My brain dropped into old-school mode and I bought the helm with Int on it. I didn't think about it, gemmed and faction-enchanted it and ran dungeons all weekend without thinking about it. Derp.
That's definitely latency related, considering your latency in that picture is in the red.
My latency is at 600-700 at worst, not enough to cause any delay. Lag also wouldn't trigger error messages and spell indicators. Plus the ticks from my pet attacks were going off fine.
I would say that yes, it is latency related, as your pet is standing right next to you with a melee ability going off. Your client just hasn't updated that the mob has moved into melee range. 600-700 is pretty laggy.
I live in Australia and play at 400-500 mostly, and that is noticable enough.
Edit: Was just thinking that pets effectively have a latency of 0, as they are controlled server side. That's why the pet is able to melee, because it got the update that your target moved, much quicker than you at 700ms ping.
Yeah, the picture just looks like a common client-server mob position desync. You see that sort of shit happen sometimes even with decent, sub-200ms latency.
1-80 I ran as BM a long time ago... 80-83 I did as MM, 83-85 as Survival. Survival is currently the highest DPS. I did the new ring event in TH and was averaging 2-4k higher than the next guys in the random pug. I haven't done any of the new dungeons yet. I was using a wolf... as long as you have the misdirect glyph you shouldn't have any agro problems at all.
Also, as survival you can wyvern sting / trap any extras you don't want to fight immediately.
Oh, the other reason I can't wait to get to Cata zones is itemization. A *bunch* of Northrend Hunter/Enhancement Shaman rewards still have +Intellect on them, which is annoying as hell.
What's bad is they could have gotten an intern to fix all of that stuff at little to no pay.
I was impressed when we ran BWL last night that Vaelastrasz's buff had been updated to regen focus as well. Which was a lot of fun since we still had the buff when we ran into the gauntlet, a couple of minutes of Multishot and Fan of Knives spam.
Interns to fix that stuff?
I would hope the infrastructure for the game is a little more complex where a glorified coffee delivery boy couldn't just hop on and tweak shit.
Oh, the other reason I can't wait to get to Cata zones is itemization. A *bunch* of Northrend Hunter/Enhancement Shaman rewards still have +Intellect on them, which is annoying as hell.
What's bad is they could have gotten an intern to fix all of that stuff at little to no pay.
I was impressed when we ran BWL last night that Vaelastrasz's buff had been updated to regen focus as well. Which was a lot of fun since we still had the buff when we ran into the gauntlet, a couple of minutes of Multishot and Fan of Knives spam.
Interns to fix that stuff?
I would hope the infrastructure for the game is a little more complex where a glorified coffee delivery boy couldn't just hop on and tweak shit.
That job is just finding spaces where items were designed for hunters and have intel on them, and changing the intel to stamina and more agility. For 10,000 items. Definitely an intern job.
Oh, the other reason I can't wait to get to Cata zones is itemization. A *bunch* of Northrend Hunter/Enhancement Shaman rewards still have +Intellect on them, which is annoying as hell.
What's bad is they could have gotten an intern to fix all of that stuff at little to no pay.
I was impressed when we ran BWL last night that Vaelastrasz's buff had been updated to regen focus as well. Which was a lot of fun since we still had the buff when we ran into the gauntlet, a couple of minutes of Multishot and Fan of Knives spam.
Interns to fix that stuff?
I would hope the infrastructure for the game is a little more complex where a glorified coffee delivery boy couldn't just hop on and tweak shit.
That job is just finding spaces where items were designed for hunters and have intel on them, and changing the intel to stamina and more agility. For 10,000 items. Definitely an intern job.
The item info is stored in a database, and they almost certainly have a tool to edit it, which could be modified if necessary to enforce the correct power curve. Once they are done they print it out, a senior dev gives it a once-over. Hell, if all you wanted to do was replace Int with Stam/Agi you could probably just write a script to do it and just have an intern gather up the item ids.
It could easily be scripted to look for items with agility > 0 and intellect > 0, then just change the intellect into the same amount of crit rating, or if there's already crit rating on the item, haste rating. Bam, same budget as before.
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/cast [@target, exists, nodead, help] [@focus, exists, nodead, help] [@pet, exists, nodead] Misdirection
Although you don't really need the exists/nodead for the pet since you can just let the macro spit an error message at you about not having a pet if none of the other conditions are met.
Now im going to have to check when I get home. Im pretty sure it was working properly since i saw such a large increase in the speed things die but it could just be the GCD timer reseting.
/cast Hammer of Wrath
/cast Divine Storm
/cast Judgement
/cast Crusader Strike
/cast Consecration
etc. and it would just cast whatever was available first. But you can't actually do that. The macro just tries and fails to cast HoW over and over. I would think it'd work the same way with KC but perhaps it's a weird exception.
Hopefully someone who is more of a macro expert can shed some light on this.
Although my hunter is one of my lowest priority alts so it won't matter for at least a year.
That wouldn't really cut it for an Arcane Shot macro since you might want to fire more than one Arcane Shot before KC comes off cooldown.
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Is that a....Ghost Crab?
You literally just made my day. I've been worrying over having to choose between my awesome Crab pet and my really neat Ghost Cat and now....there is the best of both worlds!
Where do I find this and what level is it?
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In the end, it's just another Spirit Beast skin.
I don't recommend using this in Raids or PvP or anything like that really, because it is exploiting/abusing a glitch. However, if you want to know how to do it, just for fun (soloing etc) then read below the spoiler:
I did Hawk and Wild in this picture. It seems to be limited to 2 aspects only.
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Currently I'm BM with a bear, but I was thinking of going MM with a ???
Any leveling advice appreciated
Edit: Leveling 80-85
BM is easytown as far as solo'ing goes, but don't make my mistake and go crazy-solo and ignore all the dungeons. Depending on what level you are, if anyone is running dungeons still, I'd go just for the experience. I've barely instanced on my hunter, and now with Cata out I'm kind of nervous to do it because I'm worried it's going to be a total shitshow.
I apologize for not being clearer. I was referring to leveling from 80-85, I should have said so.
I used a bear, Thunderstomp is great for grabbing extra mobs (spawn rates are ridiculous sometimes), and the damage reducing aoe debuff helped keep the bear alive.
As MM you might want to keep a Hyena or a Wolf for a dungeon pet, for the extra Bleed damage or the 5% crit buff.
I leveled as BM with a Core Hound (Chromaggus actually
In terms of just from 80-85, I leveled as Surv with a Beetle. I rarely had any issues with pulling off him, and if I did, I just FD'd. Used Glyph of Misdirect and Glyph of Mending. Specced him for survability moreso than damage (so I took stuff like Blood of the Rhino and Pet Barding opposed to Spiked Collar or Culling the Herd).
Battle.net Tag: Dibby#1582
This is a pretty good article about hunters in the new heroics.
http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/12/13/scattered-shots-optimizing-your-hunter-for-heroics/
My latency is at 600-700 at worst, not enough to cause any delay. Lag also wouldn't trigger error messages and spell indicators. Plus the ticks from my pet attacks were going off fine.
I would say that yes, it is latency related, as your pet is standing right next to you with a melee ability going off. Your client just hasn't updated that the mob has moved into melee range. 600-700 is pretty laggy.
I live in Australia and play at 400-500 mostly, and that is noticable enough.
Edit: Was just thinking that pets effectively have a latency of 0, as they are controlled server side. That's why the pet is able to melee, because it got the update that your target moved, much quicker than you at 700ms ping.
What's bad is they could have gotten an intern to fix all of that stuff at little to no pay.
I was impressed when we ran BWL last night that Vaelastrasz's buff had been updated to regen focus as well. Which was a lot of fun since we still had the buff when we ran into the gauntlet, a couple of minutes of Multishot and Fan of Knives spam.
My brain dropped into old-school mode and I bought the helm with Int on it. I didn't think about it, gemmed and faction-enchanted it and ran dungeons all weekend without thinking about it. Derp.
Also, as survival you can wyvern sting / trap any extras you don't want to fight immediately.
Interns to fix that stuff?
I would hope the infrastructure for the game is a little more complex where a glorified coffee delivery boy couldn't just hop on and tweak shit.
That job is just finding spaces where items were designed for hunters and have intel on them, and changing the intel to stamina and more agility. For 10,000 items. Definitely an intern job.
The item info is stored in a database, and they almost certainly have a tool to edit it, which could be modified if necessary to enforce the correct power curve. Once they are done they print it out, a senior dev gives it a once-over. Hell, if all you wanted to do was replace Int with Stam/Agi you could probably just write a script to do it and just have an intern gather up the item ids.
1. Hit until you are hit capped
2. Agility
3. Crit
4. Mastery
5. Haste
I've been ranking mastery higher than crit, though, because it buffs viper as well as all your stings.