[WoW] Hunters: Misdirection kills, just ask that priest that mouthed off at me

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    is there an instant macro to put MD on your pet?

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    #showtooltip Misdirection
    /cast [target=focus] Misdirection

    You can also add /focus petname before the /cast line, but that might be problematic in instances.

    edit: Actually, target=pet might work...

    edit2: Totally works, but /focus also lets you focus the tank.

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    #showtooltip Misdirection
    /cast [target=focus] Misdirection

    You can also add /focus petname before the /cast line, but that might be problematic in instances.

    very nice, many thanks

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    forty wrote: »
    Probably something like:

    #showtooltip
    /cast [@target, nodead, help] [@focus, nodead, help] [@pet, nodead] Misdirection
    Misdirects your target if you have one and if it's friendly. If not, then it misdirects your focus if you have one and if it's friendly. If not, then it misdirects your pet.

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  • -Phil--Phil- Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Cunty wrote: »
    is there an instant macro to put MD on your pet?

    I have been using this:

    #showtooltip
    /cast [modifier:ctrl, target=focus, nodead, exists, help] Misdirection
    /cast [nomodifier, target=pet, nodead, exists] Misdirection

    It does not require you to setup a focus on your pet and lets you also cast MD on your focus (when pressing ctrl key at same time).

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    -Phil- wrote: »
    Cunty wrote: »
    is there an instant macro to put MD on your pet?

    I have been using this:

    #showtooltip
    /cast [modifier:ctrl, target=focus, nodead, exists, help] Misdirection
    /cast [nomodifier, target=pet, nodead, exists] Misdirection

    It does not require you to setup a focus on your pet and lets you also cast MD on your focus (when pressing ctrl key at same time).

    Why have the ctrl modifer? I use the same exact macro, but without that. The focus target is most always going to be the tank in an instance, so why bog it down?

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  • -Phil--Phil- Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    -Phil- wrote: »
    Cunty wrote: »
    is there an instant macro to put MD on your pet?

    I have been using this:

    #showtooltip
    /cast [modifier:ctrl, target=focus, nodead, exists, help] Misdirection
    /cast [nomodifier, target=pet, nodead, exists] Misdirection

    It does not require you to setup a focus on your pet and lets you also cast MD on your focus (when pressing ctrl key at same time).

    Why have the ctrl modifer? I use the same exact macro, but without that. The focus target is most always going to be the tank in an instance, so why bog it down?

    Personal preference I guess.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    While I can't post my exact macro at the moment, the one I'm using MDs my pet if I'm not in a group. If I am in a group it MDs my mouseover target, with my Grid frames in the lower middle of my screen, I can pretty easily hover and MD the tank.

    So I got my undead hunter out of Northrend over the weekend, and then hit 81 in Hyjal to get Cobra Shot. God I love Cobra Shot. For the heck of it, I decided to do a BRC run to get those quests out of the way.

    My DPS cat started out 78 at the start of the run and ended up 80 by the end, so I'm sure I was losing some DPS from having a low level pet. And since we had a Warrior tank (and a priest to do Fort, so Commanding wasn't needed) and a DPS DK, my cat's buff was useless and made me start thinking I need a couple of DPS pets to be able to supply party buffs that are missing.

    Regardless, I accounted for 40% of the group's damage at around 6.7k DPS average. On Steelbreaker, since I could basically just stand and shoot, I managed to hit 11.3k DPS, which is pretty damn solid for an 81. I'm really liking Survival in dungeons, it seems ridiculous.

    Last night I went ahead and looked into getting a couple of alternate DPS pets. I figured the +8% magic damage debuff would be nice to bring (especially for my damage on bosses since Survival's damage is almost all magic based), but I dislike the Wind Serpents in general. I decided to look at the Dragonhawks instead and found that there is only one blue dragonhawk... the ones from Sunwell Plateau. Getting a friend to help me make a raid and two deaths later, I had my dragonhawk. Then I flew up to Eastern Plaguelands and got the ghostly wolf... though I'm almost thinking of just grabbing one of the armored worgs from Ramparts.

    I also *finally* set up my BM alt-spec so that I'll be able to tame some exotics if I run across one that I want. My hunter is 82 right now, and I *really* wanna get Terrorpene, flew around his spawn area and saw an 85 Worgen Hunter in the area, I'm sure he was waiting as well, and I'm not setup to be able to get him solo anyway. I guess I need a corehound trash pet for the haste buff or some such, but I will get that flaming turtle eventually.

    Also considering having my friends help me get to Chromaggus just because of how cool he looks, even though I prefer Survival at the moment.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dranyth wrote: »
    On Steelbreaker, since I could basically just stand and shoot, I managed to hit 11.3k DPS, which is pretty damn solid for an 81.
    Does normal Steelbreaker not have an increased damage taken mechanic? Or is that only on heroic?

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Also considering having my friends help me get to Chromaggus just because of how cool he looks, even though I prefer Survival at the moment.

    Do it.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I don't remember Steelbender having an 'increased damage taken' mechanic at all. I thought melting his armor just removed the '99% less damage taken' his armor buff gives him when he isn't heated up.


    Ah hah, the heated debuff does increase his damage taken by 5% per stack, wasn't aware of that. Neat.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dranyth wrote: »
    I don't remember Steelbender having an 'increased damage taken' mechanic at all. I thought melting his armor just removed the '99% less damage taken' his armor buff gives him when he isn't heated up.

    There's a stacking '% damage taken' debuff to match the increasing fire damage he also does.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Yeah, if the Steelbender fight is handled correctly, your DPS numbers should be much higher than usual. I think I had 26k on my DK in one heroic kill.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I did try camping for Terrorpene last night for a total of about 3-4 hours. No luck. I'm thinking of just continuing leveling and not worrying about looking for him until either the weekend (when I can spend more time there and hopefully not miss spawns), or until I'm 85 when I don't have to worry about logging out right there and not missing rest.

    Other than that, hit 83 and got Aspect of the Fox, though I imagine I won't be using that too much unless I try to PvP.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Aspect of the Fox gets used in a decent number of dungeons/heroics.

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  • RakeethRakeeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Blue gets you hit chance. The gear dropping in heroics doesn't max out your hit rate, even after enchants. I'm going to end up having to reforge to get the hit I need, but gemming blue means I can reforge fewer pieces for that hit rate.

    What am I missing?
    forty wrote: »
    Probably the fact that a point of Agility is still worth like 3 times a point of hit in terms of DPS.

    And yeah, I'd recommend whatever +rating +minor move speed meta(s) is available and has easy requirements to meet.

    Edit: It should also be noted that Chaotic is not as big of a damage increase vs. other meta gems as it was in WotLK since crit rates are a lot lower. Having that 3% bonus damage kicking in on only like 25% of your attacks is not nearly as valuable as when it applied to like 60% of them.

    Also due to how valuable agi is compared to crit rating, Relentless Earthsiege diamonds are better than Chaotic Shadowspirit. So when meta requirements are finally patched, unless Chaotic is changed to be better for hunters, Relentless is clearly superior.

    So it makes more sense currently to gem all +agi gems, two orange +agi/+crit to meet mastery/run speed meta, then reforge ratings to make your hit cap.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I hadn't even thought about the old relentless probably beating chaotic shadowspirit (I imagine this is true for a lot of agi specs, actually). As an added bonus, it's like 10% of the price as well.

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  • EmporiumEmporium Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    As a side note, at least for survival hunters, the old 22 agility to cloak and 20 agility to gloves beats out the new Cataclysm enchants. Apparently the old 50 AP enchant to bracers beats out the new ratings based ones as well, but I'm a leatherworker so I don't have to pay much attention to that.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    TERRORPENE GET!

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    The moment I got home I decided to go down there and check, NPCScan yelled at me, woot!

    Now I just need a good name for him...

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  • CuntyCunty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    As part of the Marks and Beastmaster buffs, we’re buffing Aimed Shot, Kill Shot, Chimera Shot, and Kill Command.

    :D

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Apparently they're going to be nerfing Survival's AoE... hope single target is alright though.

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  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Man this class has come a long way from my old aq 40 days, huh? I just read over the wiki and it looks like they have made hunters a lot more interesting then when I quit four years ago.

    Is it easy to come back? Part of me wants to wait for SWTOR and the other wants to check out all this new hotness.

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  • RakeethRakeeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Apparently they're going to be nerfing Survival's AoE... hope single target is alright though.

    Gonna suck for the raid bosses where ae is kind of important.

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  • NoisymunkNoisymunk Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Man this class has come a long way from my old aq 40 days, huh? I just read over the wiki and it looks like they have made hunters a lot more interesting then when I quit four years ago.

    Is it easy to come back? Part of me wants to wait for SWTOR and the other wants to check out all this new hotness.

    Cataclysm is all about making it easy to come back to the game.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Noisymunk wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Man this class has come a long way from my old aq 40 days, huh? I just read over the wiki and it looks like they have made hunters a lot more interesting then when I quit four years ago.

    Is it easy to come back? Part of me wants to wait for SWTOR and the other wants to check out all this new hotness.

    Cataclysm is all about making it easy to come back to the game.
    Except for the end game.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Rakeeth wrote: »
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Apparently they're going to be nerfing Survival's AoE... hope single target is alright though.

    Gonna suck for the raid bosses where ae is kind of important.
    Yeah, survival hunters' crazy AoE madness (MS + serpent spread + improved serpent sting) is a big contributor to my raid group's success on fights like Magmaw, Meloriak, Omnotron, and whelps on what's-his-name in Bastion. I'm still not getting Blizzard's "WotLK was just an AoEfest so we're nerfing AoEs" philosophy and then putting in plenty of high health packs of things that need to be AoE'd in raid encounters.

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  • ScudMuffinScudMuffin MarylandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dranyth wrote: »
    TERRORPENE GET!

    TerrorpeneGet.jpg

    The moment I got home I decided to go down there and check, NPCScan yelled at me, woot!

    Now I just need a good name for him...

    Bowser?

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I just recently got back into this after quitting after BC. I've started a Worgen hunter and am loving the Cataclysmized land. Any cool low level pets to know about? I got a Moonstalker from Darkshore.

    And my favorite pet last time I leveled a hunter was the Gorilla from STV, but they stopped making new power ups for him past 55 I think. Did they fix that?

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  • RakeethRakeeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    forty wrote: »
    Rakeeth wrote: »
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Apparently they're going to be nerfing Survival's AoE... hope single target is alright though.

    Gonna suck for the raid bosses where ae is kind of important.
    Yeah, survival hunters' crazy AoE madness (MS + serpent spread + improved serpent sting) is a big contributor to my raid group's success on fights like Magmaw, Meloriak, Omnotron, and whelps on what's-his-name in Bastion. I'm still not getting Blizzard's "WotLK was just an AoEfest so we're nerfing AoEs" philosophy and then putting in plenty of high health packs of things that need to be AoE'd in raid encounters.

    Whelps on Halfus Wyrmbreaker (sp?), adds spawned by life based Lord in ToFW and slimes on Cho'gall ... Thats pretty much all I can think of.

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Magmaw has parasites, Meloriak has his adds, Omnotron has the exploding poison blobs. Good call on the life genie; I forgot about those adds (which are hazardous for melee to AoE). Haven't seen Cho'gall yet.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    ScudMuffin wrote: »
    *snip*

    Bowser?

    Way, way way overdone. I ended up going with Etna. Largest volcano in Europe, and the name of one of my favorite characters in Disgaea.


    DrunkMc, definitely check out Petopia, there are tons of neat pets. One of the first early 'unique'-ish ones I got was the ghostly snow leopard in Darkshore. You have to be at least 20, but if you go up to the digsite area in the north and look around for the feline statues, open them and there's a chance that the ghostly cat attacks you when you do. Then you can tame it.

    While you're doing a quest in Western Plaguelands (which is now like 30-35 or something), you have the ability to tame a bandaged, undead hawk that looks pretty damn sweet.

    If you start a goblin hunter, when you're on Lost Isles you can tame a spiky raptor model that changes between 4 different color variations every time you resummon it (or he any time he reappears, like from dismounting.) There is no way to get that 4 color changer unless you're a goblin who hits level 10 and goes to get it before leaving Lost Isles. Sucks because I would *really* love that one. The multi-color changers are really neat. Like my spiky crab that's a four color-changer, from Swamp of Sorrows (which is about level 50 or so now).

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  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Dranyth wrote: »
    If you start a goblin hunter, when you're on Lost Isles you can tame a spiky raptor model that changes between 4 different color variations every time you resummon it (or he any time he reappears, like from dismounting.) There is no way to get that 4 color changer unless you're a goblin who hits level 10 and goes to get it before leaving Lost Isles. Sucks because I would *really* love that one. The multi-color changers are really neat. Like my spiky crab that's a four color-changer, from Swamp of Sorrows (which is about level 50 or so now).
    A note about the color changers: I'm fairly certainly Blizzard posted that they consider this a bug rather than a feature that they intend to get around to fixing.

    Not to say that you shouldn't get one of those if you want one, but just noting that at some point in the future (Soon™!?) it might stop changing colors. Of course, this could be one of those things that takes them two years to fix, so you might have a lot of time to enjoy it in the meantime.

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  • DrunkMcDrunkMc Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    Wow, thanks for the tip on Petopia! Going to check it out now.

    And I always wondered what those cat statues were for!

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    DrunkMc wrote: »
    Wow, thanks for the tip on Petopia! Going to check it out now.

    And I always wondered what those cat statues were for!

    I've got a cat figurine from that area that summons a ghost cat companion for 10 minutes(one use item). I can't remember if I got it from looting the statues or the corpse of a ghost cat.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I'm so incredibly frustrated that I never tamed one of those ghost wolves from back in the day that didn't require BM, before they hotfixed them out.

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  • NoisymunkNoisymunk Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    http://wow.joystiq.com/2007/11/21/ghost-wolf-the-newest-rarest-pet/

    That guy, right?

    Even when it was IN the game, it was the biggest pain in the ass.

    Edit: And if the up-common balancing patch goes smoothly, BM may be a viable raid/dungeon build again, and you can grab that Spirit Beast with the same skin.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited December 2010
    I liked how when the ghost wolf thing came out, Blizz was like "Wow, that's pretty amazing and creative! We'll leave it in for ya.". Then a few months later, they just yank the thing back out like it was an unintended bug.

    Ah well, my big claim to fame was being able to get in on the bug that let hunters tame a worgen pet. That was a pretty bitchin' 2 weeks.

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  • -SPI--SPI- Osaka, JapanRegistered User regular
    edited December 2010
    At least they grandfathered most of those things in. You still occasionally see hunters with crocoslimes or ghost hydras.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Speaking of cool things, Chromaggus get!

    Friends and I went through BWL earlier today, got my 85 Hunter (hit 85 at 4am this morning), and 3-manned the whole thing. Then we switched characters, picked up a couple more friends and did it again so my other friend could get Chromaggus on his hunter too. We beat Nefarion both times too, was pretty neat.

    Also, *FUCK* the suppression rooms.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2011
    Chromie.jpg

    Isn't he just adorable? He's also loud as hell, has different sounds than a normal corehound.

    Also, either Beast Mastery *really* sucks right now, or I just *really* suck at it. I tried it last night through part of a regular HoO and was barely doing 5k dps. Granted, it was to level Chromie because he was only 83, but still. I switched back to Survival with a wolf as soon as he hit 84 and started doing immensely better.

    Oh, and a mere 24 hours after hitting 85, my hunter gained 329 average item level and could start queuing for heroics. Of course, it was 4am, so I went to bed, but still.

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