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Morning sir, sighting in heavy fog [Master and Commander]

QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Social Entropy++
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Master and Commander / The Aubrey-Maturin series

Bid you welcome aboard the joyful Surprise!

The Aubrey–Maturin series, of which Master and Commander is a part of, is a series of historical novels — 20 completed and one unfinished — by Patrick O'Brian, set during the Napoleonic Wars and centering on the friendship between Captain Jack Aubrey of the Royal Navy and his ship's surgeon Stephen Maturin.

The main topic of this thread, is the kickass movie made by Peter Weir in 2003. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World.
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THE CREW
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Capt. Jack Aubrey
"Lucky" Jack is the Captain of the HMS Surprise. In the film, he is tasked with pursuing the Acheron, which he is relentless in. Although he is a genius at sea and with practical matters, he has large gaps in his understanding of everything else, as demonstrated by his clumsiness with metaphors.
Russell Crowe plays Jack with much bravado.
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Dr. Stephen Maturin
Physician, natural philosopher, and secret agent (although it's only hinted at in the film), Maturin primarily serves as the ship's surgeon, as well as being Jack's best friend. In the film he's in love with the Galapagos Islands and spends quite a bit of time playing his cello with Jack on the violin. Although extremely erudite and a linguist, he remains perpetually doomed in his occasional attempts to use naval slang, or to explain the working of a ship to someone.
Paul Bettany plays Maturin to perfection.
It's also worth noting that in the books, he captured a sloth and brought it back to the ship.
Other crew
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Mr. Pullings. First Lieutennant.
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Mr. Allen. Master.
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Mr. Blakeny. Midshipman
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Killick. Captain's Steward.
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Mr. Holler. Screamer.
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THE PRODUCTION
Great efforts were made to reproduce the authentic look and feel of life aboard an early nineteenth-century man-of-war. Much of the filming actually took place at sea on board Rose (a reproduction of the 18th-century frigate HMS Rose), while other scenes were shot on a full-scale replica mounted on gimbals in a large tank. The Rose is now renamed HMS Surprise in honor of her movie role and moored at the San Diego Maritime Museum as a dockside attraction (and recently returned to regular sailing status).

Should you be interested in the real life adventures of the real HMS Surprise, check out this site to keep up to date with when it's traveling and if you can be a member of the crew for a bit.

There was a third HMS Surprise which was a scale model built by Weta Workshop. A storm sequence was enhanced using digitally-composited footage of waves actually shot on board a modern replica of Cook's Endeavour rounding Cape Horn. All of the actors were given a thorough grounding in the naval life of the period in order to make their performances as authentic as possible. To create an authentic sense of camaraderie among the cast, they were all housed in special quarters, away from the rest of the crew. Designed like a gentleman's club, there was no TV, and no crew member was allowed in without being invited. It was nicknamed "The Monkey Bar".

The ship's boats used in the film were Russian Naval six- and four-oared yawls supplied by Central Coast Charters and Boat Base Monterey. Their faithful 18th century appearance complemented the historic accuracy of the rebuilt "Rose", whose own boat, the "Thorn" could be used only in the Brazilian scene. During the film's pre-production, the replica of Captain James Cook's ship, HMS Endeavour, was circumnavigating the globe. The production was able to fly 2 cameramen to the ship as it was about to sail round the bottom of South America, a route the HMS Surprise takes in the film. Thus, the footage of the stormy seas from that part of the voyage is genuine. The gunnery scenes were particularly authentic with live rounds being fired over numerous microphones in order to capture the proper sound effect of cannonballs flying through the air. About 27 miles of rope was used on the rigging of the replica Rose. Most of the rope had to be made especially, as modern day rope has a right hand lay (the direction the strands run in) whereas it would have had a left hand lay in Napoleonic times.

Regarding a sequel
Over five years after the movie's 2003 release, there are currently no announced plans for a sequel to be made by movie-rights holder 20th Century Fox, despite the remaining 20 books available in the Aubrey-Maturin series.
Director Peter Weir, asked in 2005 if he would do a sequel, stated he thought it "most unlikely", and after disclaiming internet rumors to the contrary, stated "I think that while it did well... ish at the box office, it didn't generate that monstrous, rapid income that provokes a sequel."
In 2007 the film was listed on a list of "13 Failed Attempts To Start Film Franchises" by the media website www.avclub.com , noting that "... the Aubrey-Maturin novels remain untapped cinematic ground."
Although Russell Crowe is not under contract for another film, he is reportedly interested in making one. Most of the rest of the cast is reported to be under contract for two more films; a common procedure for movie studios when signing up for a film, whether a sequel is made or not, in order to ensure much of the original cast comes back.[
This thread is for those who have shared in the long ocean voyages, hardships, adventures, explorations, loves, lusts, friends, enemies, society balls, secret espionage, rolling broadsides, victories won, prizes taken, shipmates lost and gained, breakfast coffee and bacon, wardroom spotted dogs, and evenings of violin, cello and Killick's toasted cheese, with our heroes Jack Aubrey, Stephen Maturin, and their esteemed creator, Patrick O'Brian.

Let us discuss this great film (and awesome books!) and maybe I'll see you on the quarter deck!
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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I like this movie.

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    Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ah, man, I loved this movie.


    I should really watch it again soon.

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    DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I too like this movie

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    This movie is perfect

    I also recommend the books very much. They're so pleasant to read.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I actually read the first book of this
    But I didn't have any inclination to read the rest

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I liked this movie. Not a single other person I know does.

    It's the same with Miami Vice.


    Also I was hoping this thread would be announcing they are making it into a game. I could use a good naval combat game.

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Also I was hoping this thread would be announcing they are making it into a game. I could use a good naval combat game.
    I would so play a game where it was just you on a ship, helping it run.

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    nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    isn't this movie supposed to be the boringest?

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Also I was hoping this thread would be announcing they are making it into a game. I could use a good naval combat game.
    I would so play a game where it was just you on a ship, helping it run.

    I named myself Jack Aubrey and my ship the Acheron when I played Sid Meir's Pirates

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    natek wrote: »
    isn't this movie supposed to be the boringest?
    IT OPENS WITH A BATTLE I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW

    edit: Buster that doesn't make any sense. Aubrey is chasing the Acheron.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    natek wrote: »
    isn't this movie supposed to be the boringest?
    IT OPENS WITH A BATTLE I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW

    edit: Buster that doesn't make any sense. Aubrey is chasing the Acheron.

    Well, I made believe I already caught it and was using it myself







    I forgot okay

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    well as long as you know

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    This is like the colonial wars version of Battlestar Galactica except without any women.

    All having to make brutal decisions and cut off limbs etc etc.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I mean it kind of makes sense
    You get to use the ships you capture if you don't sink them

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    DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The one time they bring a woman on the boat in the books, one of the crew marries her and then they desert the ship and run away to a nearby island where they die

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    nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    women

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    trentsteel wrote: »
    This is like the colonial wars version of Battlestar Galactica except without any women.

    All having to make brutal decisions and cut off limbs etc etc.

    Yes, that is what the movie was based on



    Also we spent the evening watching more Battlestar Galactica episodes on DVD since we just got into it
    It's soooo good

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    BusterK wrote: »
    I mean it kind of makes sense
    You get to use the ships you capture if you don't sink them
    I've played the game.

    I'm just sayin, as long as your first ship was the Surprise (or the Sophie)

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The one time they bring a woman on the boat in the books, one of the crew marries her and then they desert the ship and run away to a nearby island where they die

    I thought the crew always hid women on board before the set off?

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    DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    BusterK wrote: »
    The one time they bring a woman on the boat in the books, one of the crew marries her and then they desert the ship and run away to a nearby island where they die

    I thought the crew always hid women on board before the set off?

    Now I have to go read the books again

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    That's a good fucking idea.

    Shit, why didn't I think of that in my previous incarnation as a British Naval Commander?

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    BusterK wrote: »
    I mean it kind of makes sense
    You get to use the ships you capture if you don't sink them
    I've played the game.

    I'm just sayin, as long as your first ship was the Surprise (or the Sophie)

    The Surprise is kind of a boring name
    The Sophie is pretty good though
    But The Acheron is clearly the best name

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Oh yeah, because I loved to diddle man after mans as they slowly succumbed to desparate homosexuality after months at sea

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    trentsteel wrote: »
    Oh yeah, because I loved to diddle man after mans as they slowly succumbed to desparate homosexuality after months at sea

    Rum, Sodomy and the Lash

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    List of ships Aubrey commanded:
    HMS Sophie
    HMS Polychrest
    HMS Lively
    HMS Boadicea
    HMS Raisonnable
    HMS Leopard
    HMS Ariel
    HMS Worcester
    HMS Surprise
    HEICS Niobe
    HMS Diane
    Nutmeg of Consolation
    HMHV Surprise
    Privateer Franklin
    HMS Bellona
    HMS Pomone
    HMS Suffolk

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm naming my next sea-worthy vessel the Worcester.

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    trentsteeltrentsteel Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I made grog once. It's like rum and nutmeg and water and something. Some pirate drink.

    It was terrible but I drank two pints of it.

    I might have made it wrong.

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    DrIanMalcolmDrIanMalcolm Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    no that sounds correct

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The Polychrest was cool because it was a ship built to have a giant cannon on its deck. It had a weird hull design, such that it was built to minimize the recoil from the huge cannon, in using the water.

    Too bad the cannon was removed from the boat and Aubrey was wondering for half the book why his boat was so weird looking.

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    UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    This movie ruled and I would still love to see a sequel.

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Gonna watch this again today

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    Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    This movie bored me to fucking tears, but I've been meaning to give it another chance.

    EDIT: Trent, Miami Vice is awful and you should be ashamed.

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    trentsteel wrote: »
    I'm naming my next sea-worthy vessel the Worcester.

    You better pronounce it correctly.

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    BusterKBusterK Negativity is Boring Cynicism is Cowardice Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    trentsteel wrote: »
    I'm naming my next sea-worthy vessel the Worcester.

    You better pronounce it correctly.

    WAR-CHEST-OAR?

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    WORE NOT WAR

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    KelbaenorKelbaenor Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Empire: Total War is perfect for fans of this movie.

    empire-total-war-20080416114834517.jpg

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    IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    FUCK YES THIS IS MY FAVOURITE MOVIE

    I also love the books

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    PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    This movie bored me to fucking tears, but I've been meaning to give it another chance.

    EDIT: Trent, Miami Vice is awful and you should be ashamed.

    This movie is not boring at all!

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    IskanderIskander Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    why is cloudman so wrong

    like holy fuck, so wrong...

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    QuestionMarkManQuestionMarkMan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    For those interested in the series, these sites may be of interest!

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