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Hard-drive replacement and cloning

ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
edited November 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
So, my hard-drive has been making a really annoying noise lately (like grinding a metal fork on a plate), and as of several days ago the computer has been booting randomly (while in the middle of hard-drive intensive tasks) and not coming back on.

I usually have to turn it on and off multiple times for Windows to load up. Sometimes it will load up but the mouse cursor won't move (even though the mouse itself will move... I can tell because it highlights the menus and bars when I move it around). And sometimes after the windows loading screen, I'll get a messed up screen with funky, random colors and lines for a few seconds before the "welcome" message appears on Windows. And sometimes the funky screen won't go away, and the monitor will turn off and show the "invalid input" message.

I'm thinking it's time to replace this thing.

So, question 1: External hard-drive or internal? Advantages/disadvantages of each?

Question 2: Before my current hard-drive fails completely, I'd like to copy the contents to a new one. How does one accomplish this task?

Thanks in advance.


P.S. My critical files are already backed up. But I don't wanna lose my games. And porn. :lol:

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Shut down your computer right now, go switch to a laptop or secondary computer. If the read head of your disk is making contact with the platters, every second it's running means more lost data.

    1. External drives tend to be slower and more expensive, but are easy to move to place to place. Internal drives are faster, cheaper, and non-portable. Also, Windows might not be able to boot from an external drive unless you do something fancy like SCSI or ESATA.

    2. I like Norton Ghost for mirroring drives - see if you can get a version from before Symantec ruined it. It'll boot from a floppy and mirror the drives very quickly. However, SystemWorks (the new name for it) actually rendered one of my systems unbootable when I installed it.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    jmillikin wrote:
    Shut down your computer right now, go switch to a laptop or secondary computer. If the read head of your disk is making contact with the platters, every second it's running means more lost data.

    Yeah I'm on my laptop right now. I won't be turning the desktop on until I get the replacement hard-drive and am ready to clone.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    My current one is:

    Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B300S0 300GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

    What can I replace this with without having to worry about compatibility issues? Would this work?

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    ege02 wrote:
    My current one is:

    Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6B300S0 300GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

    What can I replace this with without having to worry about compatibility issues? Would this work?

    Yeah, that should work fine. Only compatibility problem I can think of is if Windows decides to get uppity at the hardware change and makes you reactivate.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Okay.

    Before I make the purchase I'd like to be 100% sure that the problem is my hard-drive and not another component. I'm thinking the monitor's "input not supported" message might have something to do with the graphic's card?

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Turn off the machine, unplug the hdd power connector and power it back on. If you still hear the screeching, it is most likely a fan and not the hdd. While it is open, check out the dust situation. A computer should be cleaned out regularly to maintian optimal airflow.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    stigweard wrote:
    Turn off the machine, unplug the hdd power connector and power it back on. If you still hear the screeching, it is most likely a fan and not the hdd. While it is open, check out the dust situation. A computer should be cleaned out regularly to maintian optimal airflow.

    Problem is the screeching sound starts 5-10 minutes after I turn it on.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Uh oh...

    I opened up the case and put my ear close, and the sound seems to be coming from either the motherboard or the CPU.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    GPU or CPU fan, or possibly rear case fan. PSU fan(s) also a possibility.

    If it ain't the hard drive it's a dying fan.

    Disconnect one fan, see if noise comes up next boot. If it does, plug it back in and try another.

    Keep in mind that unplugging the CPU fan may result in your system shutting down immediately or locking up when booting into Windows (depending on the CPU and heatsink/fan). May want to try it last.

    I'm betting its a GPU fan because those tiny things are pieces of junk on almost any video card.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Yeah, the booting may be happening because my video card is overheating.

    In fact, I just checked its temperature from the NVidia control panel. It's 80 degrees while idle (ambient is 47). It seems a bit high...

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    ege02 wrote:
    Yeah, the booting may be happening because my video card is overheating.

    In fact, I just checked its temperature from the NVidia control panel. It's 80 degrees while idle (ambient is 47). It seems a bit high...

    Assuming those numbers are accurate, you've got major airflow problems. 47° C ≈ 116° F. 80° C = 176° F! By comparison, mine is idling at around 50°.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    Okay, so it ran at 75 degrees for 30-40 minutes, system idle, without the noise.

    Then I ran Neverwinter Nights 2. About 15 seconds into the game, the machine booted and wouldn't start up. The monitor said "input not supported."

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You've probably fried the card. Depending on the brand / model 75c idle could be fine, or it could be disastrous. If it was fan noise from the videocard and the noise had stopped, then it is most liekly that the fan wasn't working at all and you severely overheated it with nwn2.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2006
    No, the fan on the card works.

    But, after running the game for 30 seconds, I alt-tabbed and checked the temperature. It was over 100 degrees. Which explains why the computer was locking up and booting.

    What to do, what to do...

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  • JaninJanin Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    ege02 wrote:
    No, the fan on the card works.

    But, after running the game for 30 seconds, I alt-tabbed and checked the temperature. It was over 100 degrees. Which explains why the computer was locking up and booting.

    What to do, what to do...

    Shut down, let the card cool off, and then examine it. The heat sink may have worked itself loose, or the fan might be gummed up with dust. In either of these cases, it should be pretty obvious what's going wrong.

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