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holy shit they cured AIDS
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"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
you failed to bold an equally important part of that statement
"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
Yeah, that's a shame. I wonder if that is more of a CYA comment or if they really expect a lot of effect from it.
"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
Yeah, that's a shame. I wonder if that is more of a CYA comment or if they really expect a lot of effect from it.
um, they're being scientists
if they know the virus could be lurking undetected, then how can they legitimately claim they know it's gone? that's not covering your ass, that's good science
Stem cells cure everything....if you are broken in some manner get rid of the broken part and graft on stem cells, they naturally differentiate into the cells they are put next to...only healthy versions.
And if you're really fucked, then we'll use mutant (rare genetic trait) stem cells to cure you.
Or, if you're religious, just think of it stealing the souls of dead babies to cure rich people and force the government not to allow any agency (universities?) receiving public funds to come within 1000ft of stem cell research because abortions are definately the only viable source of stem cells. :x
Yes well you and South Africa can go sit in a corner and mumble together with your foil hats.
what
they're not the same
what the fuck are you even trying to say
one leads to the other therefore solving the problem of HIV would be in effect curing AIDS
in fact you could say HIV and AIDS are the same thing as AIDS is just the most advance stage of HIV
so he's techinically correct in his thread title
Uh no. That sort of 'logic' does not apply to people who already have AIDS. It's curing HIV.
Well yes, presumably they're fucked, and I think it's safe to say most of them are resigned to the fact that Salk is not going to ride in on a pencillin horse to save the day. What we are saying is if there is a chance they can "cure" the earlier stages of the disease, it will make it easier to solve the problem of the latter stages. It's good news for those that have HIV, those who might contract HIV, and in helping to stomp out HIV/AIDS altogether.
I heard they found a way to grow them artificially or something, no?
Yeah, aparently I'm behind the times:
23 January, 2009 - Under the new President Barack Obama, the restrictions placed on federal funding of Stem Cell research in the United States were lifted.
if one of those guys with the natural resistance to hiv also has a thing for black chicks africa would be a great place to be a rich white guy blowing all his money on cocaine and prostitutes
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited February 2009
There is this dude who wheels his bike into this big ass lecture hall every single freaking class all ostentatiously and it's just like
"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
you failed to bold an equally important part of that statement
Yes but in the article they give the impression that they don't really know why it hasn't rebounded, as he was also infected with a type of HIV that is not stopped by this procedure
my point was only that it's hardly a cure, and in theory HIV could still reemerge even after this sort of treatment, and the doctors themselves aren't sure why it hasn't in this patient
also I'm not sure what it means that you can't see it but it can still do some damage
if one of those guys with the natural resistance to hiv also has a thing for black chicks africa would be a great place to be a rich white guy blowing all his money on cocaine and prostitutes
Getting tested for HIV is so passee, cool kids just get tested for genetic HIV immunity.
"This type of virus can infect macrophages (another type of white blood cell that expresses CCR5) and other cells, like the brain cells, and it could live a lifetime. But if it can't spread, you never see it-- but it's there and it could do some damage," he said. "It's not the kind of approach that you could say, 'I've cured you.' I've eliminated the virus from your body."
you failed to bold an equally important part of that statement
Yes but in the article they give the impression that they don't really know why it hasn't rebounded, as he was also infected with a type of HIV that is not stopped by this procedure
my point was only that it's hardly a cure, and in theory HIV could still reemerge even after this sort of treatment, and the doctors themselves aren't sure why it hasn't in this patient
also I'm not sure what it means that you can't see it but it can still do some damage
they can't detect it, yet it could still be doing damage that is below the threshold of detection
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Except all of the treatments are either incredibly impractical, incredibly expensive, or incredibly inhumane
still possibly good, arguably better, but hey
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And this one sticks to the pattern.
Yes well you and South Africa can go sit in a corner and mumble together with your foil hats.
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what
they're not the same
what the fuck are you even trying to say
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mine had a very serious case of strep but he's better now.
one leads to the other therefore solving the problem of HIV would be in effect curing AIDS
in fact you could say HIV and AIDS are the same thing as AIDS is just the most advance stage of HIV
so he's techinically correct in his thread title
A terminal case of lemonades.
Uh no. That sort of 'logic' does not apply to people who already have AIDS. It's curing HIV.
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yes, HIV is not technically the same as AIDS
AIDS is the result of HIV
what the fuck is your point?
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It would depend what kind they are.
Yeah, that's a shame. I wonder if that is more of a CYA comment or if they really expect a lot of effect from it.
you aids infected fat fuck
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I heard they found a way to grow them artificially or something, no?
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
if they know the virus could be lurking undetected, then how can they legitimately claim they know it's gone? that's not covering your ass, that's good science
And if you're really fucked, then we'll use mutant (rare genetic trait) stem cells to cure you.
Or, if you're religious, just think of it stealing the souls of dead babies to cure rich people and force the government not to allow any agency (universities?) receiving public funds to come within 1000ft of stem cell research because abortions are definately the only viable source of stem cells. :x
Well yes, presumably they're fucked, and I think it's safe to say most of them are resigned to the fact that Salk is not going to ride in on a pencillin horse to save the day. What we are saying is if there is a chance they can "cure" the earlier stages of the disease, it will make it easier to solve the problem of the latter stages. It's good news for those that have HIV, those who might contract HIV, and in helping to stomp out HIV/AIDS altogether.
Yeah, aparently I'm behind the times:
23 January, 2009 - Under the new President Barack Obama, the restrictions placed on federal funding of Stem Cell research in the United States were lifted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_cell#Funding_.26_policy_debate_in_the_US
GOBAMA!
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Yes but in the article they give the impression that they don't really know why it hasn't rebounded, as he was also infected with a type of HIV that is not stopped by this procedure
my point was only that it's hardly a cure, and in theory HIV could still reemerge even after this sort of treatment, and the doctors themselves aren't sure why it hasn't in this patient
also I'm not sure what it means that you can't see it but it can still do some damage
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Getting tested for HIV is so passee, cool kids just get tested for genetic HIV immunity.