Why 2007 Will Be A Glorious Year For Movies

Crimson King

I think the real question here is "Why are they making a mvie out of Stardust and not American Gods?" AG was at least fifteen times better.

KalTorak

Crimson King wrote:

I think the real question here is "Why are they making a mvie out of Stardust and not American Gods?" AG was at least fifteen times better.

Stardust is shorter and more straightforward for translation into movie. While I'd love to see an AG movie, i'd hate to see stuff get cut out of it. Even without the "Coming to America" stories it'd be long, and I'm not sure the story really lends itself to the movie-watching experience. I could be wrong - give it a talented director and they could probably pull it off. But I'm glad they're doing the (relatively) easier stuff like Stardust and Coraline first, hopefully they'll give AG the time and respect it needs. Anansi Boys i think would also probably work better as a movie than AG.

entropykid

Crimson King wrote:

I think the real question here is "Why are they making a mvie out of Stardust and not American Gods?" AG was at least fifteen times better.

Couldnt agree more.

Virum wrote:

Guys....

Shoot 'Em Up

Am I the only one that saw the (leaked?) pre-vis 2D animations used to pitch this movie a while ago? I can't seem to dig them up again; everything that seems to be about it is coming up 404.

It looks so cool.

At one point they have sex during the gun fight!

Awesome

Ain't It Cool had some info on it up a bit ago, with pre-screenings coming back pretty positive.

The trailer for the movie is right here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0dXdjlKv6oo

Im disappointed, I thought this movie was going to be about a kid obsessed with shoot-emup(shmups) arcade games!

The Abortion Kusu wrote:

Marilyn Manson as the Joker would be the stupidest choice ever.

Well, the reason I said Manson is they wanted to go with a scary Joker, and I could just imagine him as one scary Joker...kind of a barqoue noir style.

Poldy wrote:

I've already seen 8-bit and talked to the director.

Go MoMA membership!!!

I went to the Museum of Modern Art in San Francisco just to see
Matthew Barney/Bjork's "Drawing Restraint 9"....ugh...Cremaster 3 was way better.

Snork wrote:

Guys. ZODIAC. David Fincher + Jake Gyllenhaal + Robert Downey Jr + Zodiac killer = WIN.

Definately. Looks much better than Son of Sam. I don't know much about that case so it'll seem fresh to me, but David Fincher movies to me are just glorious...one of my faves of his is "Se7en"

Zampano wrote:

Out of all those, the one that jumped out at me isn't even one of the big money names. It doesn't even have a trailer.

entropykid wrote:

Be Kind Rewind(new one by eternal sunshine/science of sleep guy starring Jack Black, where he has to make cheap versions of popular movies)

Jack Black is hit or miss, and his decency is generally dependent upon the director and the style of movie he is in.

That in mind, there is nothing about the description of that movie that doesn't spell gold for me.

Let me elaborate:
In a new interview: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17624
Jack Black who just wrapped filming Be Kind Rewind, said its one of Michel "Science of Sleep/Eternal Sunshine"(AKA Spike Jonze/Charlie Kauffman protoge) most strangest looking films yet...
where he(Jack) accidentlaly erases a bunch of popular rentals in
a video store, so him and his friend have to quickly make cryptic UHF like
remakes of popular movies like Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Robocop,
etc.

Daemon_Aconis

KalTorak wrote:

Crimson King wrote:

I think the real question here is "Why are they making a mvie out of Stardust and not American Gods?" AG was at least fifteen times better.

Stardust is shorter and more straightforward for translation into movie. While I'd love to see an AG movie, i'd hate to see stuff get cut out of it. Even without the "Coming to America" stories it'd be long, and I'm not sure the story really lends itself to the movie-watching experience. I could be wrong - give it a talented director and they could probably pull it off. But I'm glad they're doing the (relatively) easier stuff like Stardust and Coraline first, hopefully they'll give AG the time and respect it needs. Anansi Boys i think would also probably work better as a movie than AG.

AG would also incite all sorts of "this movie is anti-religion" spiels, because people are incredibly adept at missing the fecking point.

Scooter

entropykid wrote:

Zampano wrote:

Out of all those, the one that jumped out at me isn't even one of the big money names. It doesn't even have a trailer.

entropykid wrote:

Be Kind Rewind(new one by eternal sunshine/science of sleep guy starring Jack Black, where he has to make cheap versions of popular movies)

Jack Black is hit or miss, and his decency is generally dependent upon the director and the style of movie he is in.

That in mind, there is nothing about the description of that movie that doesn't spell gold for me.

Let me elaborate:
In a new interview: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17624
Jack Black who just wrapped filming Be Kind Rewind, said its one of Michel "Science of Sleep/Eternal Sunshine"(AKA Spike Jonze/Charlie Kauffman protoge) most strangest looking films yet...
where he(Jack) accidentlaly erases a bunch of popular rentals in
a video store, so him and his friend have to quickly make cryptic UHF like
remakes of popular movies like Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Robocop,
etc.

Man...I think I liked it better before I knew the gaping plot hole. I mean...wouldn't it be twenty thousand times easier and cheaper to order new copies. There's gotta be a hundred better ways to get Jack Black doing bad copies of classic movies.

Dublo7

blizzard224 wrote:

Dublo7 wrote:

blizzard224 wrote:

PIRATES OF
THE CARRA-MA-FUCKING-BEAN

God I love you Jack. More than anybody will ever know

Yuck! *spit spit spit spit*

Horrible movies.

No, I hate you, your belief system and everything that you've ever loved. If you were to agree with me on something I would change my view or kill myself because I hate you so much.

You better watch out, savvy?

Raggaholic

Daemon_Aconis wrote:

AG would also incite all sorts of "this movie is anti-religion" spiels, because people are incredibly adept at missing the fecking point.

I was just thinking that. There is NO WAY American Gods could be released in the US.

(I read AG a few years back and I thought it was about the things we hold important in our culture. Please let me know what the point I missed was. Also, please be gentle. I won't tell you it's my first time until afterwards.)

Shinto

Fundies are going to go crazy when the His Dark Materials movies start.

Furu

As someone who is quasi-religious, I can say American Gods was not anti-religion and anyone who thinks that was the point is a moron.

And I don't see how it wouldn't be able to be released in America.

IShallRiseAgain

fjafjan wrote:

Futurama too no?

Actually, much much better then a movie. Comedy central is bringing the TV series back. That makes me a very happy person.

Ender's game will be sweet, I just dread the EA game tie-in I know they are going to make.

Irond Will

Raggaholic wrote:

Daemon_Aconis wrote:

AG would also incite all sorts of "this movie is anti-religion" spiels, because people are incredibly adept at missing the fecking point.

I was just thinking that. There is NO WAY American Gods could be released in the US.

(I read AG a few years back and I thought it was about the things we hold important in our culture. Please let me know what the point I missed was. Also, please be gentle. I won't tell you it's my first time until afterwards.)

I guess that's a pretty good encapsulation of the book, that gods kind of formed around central concepts to our lives, and degree of belief in them or consideration of importance of their sphere determined their existence and power.

I dunno - I guess some religious people get pissed about every book or movie that presents a different view than their particular flavor of religion. I don't know that this would really rise to the level of churchie boycotts though.

Gim

IShallRiseAgain wrote:

Ender's game will be sweet, I just dread the EA game tie-in I know they are going to make.

Oh, I somehow missed Ender's Game being mentioned. Could be interesting.

*imdbs*

Wolfgang Petersen is directing? Fuck that.

entropykid

Shinto wrote:

Fundies are going to go crazy when the His Dark Materials movies start.

Why? Isnt it like Narnia? Narnia was LOVED by the fundies, even tho it seemed like another "occult worship epic" like Potter and LOTR^___^;;

itylus

entropykid wrote:

Shinto wrote:

Fundies are going to go crazy when the His Dark Materials movies start.

Why? Isnt it like Narnia? Narnia was LOVED by the fundies, even tho it seemed like another "occult worship epic" like Potter and LOTR^___^;;

The Narnia books were written as a christian allegory. Aslan is Jesus & so forth.

Snork

Whereas His Dark Materials is a pretty direct slap in the face of organised religion, ESPECIALLY Christianity.

Furu

Anyone who does not get the allegory in the Narnia books hasn't read the last one, where the ending drops any pretense of subtle.

It'll also fuck you up if you're reading it while you're seven and suddenly put the events of the book all together.

Dreamerdown

Most of the movies in the OP do not impress me. Excited for Pirates 3, Appleseed 2, but I've already seen Ghost in the Shell: Solid State Society. Good but by no means great.

Daemon_Aconis

Raggaholic wrote:

Daemon_Aconis wrote:

AG would also incite all sorts of "this movie is anti-religion" spiels, because people are incredibly adept at missing the fecking point.

I was just thinking that. There is NO WAY American Gods could be released in the US.

(I read AG a few years back and I thought it was about the things we hold important in our culture. Please let me know what the point I missed was. Also, please be gentle. I won't tell you it's my first time until afterwards.)

No, that would be the point of it. That we (humanity) created the gods to protect what we hold sacred, whether it be our desire to believe in something, or something as mundane as television.

Ketherial

Gim wrote:

IShallRiseAgain wrote:

Ender's game will be sweet, I just dread the EA game tie-in I know they are going to make.

Oh, I somehow missed Ender's Game being mentioned. Could be interesting.

*imdbs*

Wolfgang Petersen is directing? Fuck that.

i dont think there is any chance that the ender's game movie will be good, because:

1) child actors / actresses suck;
2) wolfgang peterson sucks (although enemy mine was kind of cool);
3) producer will want pg-13 rating, but mpaa will never allow the amount of child violence necessary to make the movie work into a pg-13 movie.

Irond Will

Ketherial wrote:

Gim wrote:

IShallRiseAgain wrote:

Ender's game will be sweet, I just dread the EA game tie-in I know they are going to make.

Oh, I somehow missed Ender's Game being mentioned. Could be interesting.

*imdbs*

Wolfgang Petersen is directing? Fuck that.

i dont think there is any chance that the ender's game movie will be good, because:

1) child actors / actresses suck;
2) wolfgang peterson sucks (although enemy mine was kind of cool);
3) producer will want pg-13 rating, but mpaa will never allow the amount of child violence necessary to make the movie work into a pg-13 movie.

Also, rereading Ender's Game after realizing that Card is a big old Mormon screws it all up somehow.

Furu

What's wrong with that? Does he cram Mormonism into his books?

TheBlackWind

I didn't see it mentioned, but I just wanted to pop in and name what is probably my most anticipated next year, Hot Fuzz. Police movie by the guys who made Shaun of the Dead? Sign me up.

siliconenhanced

Personally I want to see some more His Dark Materials trailers. Specifically Iorek Byrnison tearing through some Tartars while music like what was going on in "300" is playing in the background.

Oh my God, polar bear warfare. BONERS.

Crimson King

siliconenhanced wrote:

Personally I want to see some more His Dark Materials trailers. Specifically Iorek Byrnison tearing through some Tartars while music like what was going on in "300" is playing in the background.

Oh my God, polar bear warfare. BONERS.

Secular humanism + armoured warbears = WIN.

I really don't see the religion issue as being a problem with AG. I mean, the fundies protest against everything and everyone. This just adds one more to the list. It didn't hinder the His Dark Materials movies, which are quite explicitly GOD = TEH SUXX0RS. And Stardust will get fundie hate too, for all the witchcraft. But Stardust, being simpler and more kid-friendly, will probably make more money than a hypothetical AG movie, which is of course the point.

Evil Multifarious

TheBlackWind wrote:

I didn't see it mentioned, but I just wanted to pop in and name what is probably my most anticipated next year, Hot Fuzz. Police movie by the guys who made Shaun of the Dead? Sign me up.

HOT FUZZ LOOKS SO GOOD

zomg I want to see it.

Furu

Call me weak-stomached or what have you but I rarely find myself able to enjoy any movie that tries to hammer me with a not-at-all-subtle stance on politics and religion. I could take Chronicles of Narnia because at this point it's a lot more subtle. I couldn't stand all the political "overtones" in Revenge of the Sith. Get back to the droids and epic battles please.

There are of course exceptions, but for the most part I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Irond Will

Furu wrote:

Call me weak-stomached or what have you but I rarely find myself able to enjoy any movie that tries to hammer me with a not-at-all-subtle stance on politics and religion. I could take Chronicles of Narnia because at this point it's a lot more subtle. I couldn't stand all the political "overtones" in Revenge of the Sith. Get back to the droids and epic battles please.

There are of course exceptions, but for the most part I can't think of any off the top of my head.

I don't mind it if it's done well. And I can't think of any examples of movies in which it's done well.

Furu

Exactly.

I've never read (or heard of till now) about this His Dark Materials stuff, but if it's really that obnoxious with the message then I'll skip it, epic adventure or not.

Adrenaline

TheBlackWind wrote:

I didn't see it mentioned, but I just wanted to pop in and name what is probably my most anticipated next year, Hot Fuzz. Police movie by the guys who made Shaun of the Dead? Sign me up.

Yes :^:

tbloxham

Only movies Im excited about for next year are 300, Hot Fuzz and the Transformers movie. Im sure Ill see others and they will be OK but 2007 looks like it will be another weak year for movies.

Now that theres no LOTR to look forward to no year can be a truly great year.

I hope a few things can sneak up on and be great though, those are always the best films. I also hope that 300 can be as unbearably cool as it looks to be. All it needs is a few inspiring speeches and plenty of those armored Rhinos and it could be a classic.

"THIS IS SPARTA!"

-SPI-

Furu wrote:

Anyone who does not get the allegory in the Narnia books hasn't read the last one, where the ending drops any pretense of subtle.

It'll also fuck you up if you're reading it while you're seven and suddenly put the events of the book all together.

All I remember of the last one is that Narnia got invaded by the armies of Islam and then it went insane.

Personally I just want a The Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie. That's still my favourite in the series.

siliconenhanced

Yeah, I know His Dark Materials had the entire religion tie in, but there was just so much more there that if you focused on that bit, you were really missing out.

Since Lyra's world is so very different from ours, its just interesting to see what you can pick up. The Republic of Texas, for instance, or armored fucking war bears. Panzer-fucking-bjorne.

Seriously people. Iorek would rape Aslan, and then go looking to stuff the guts in of those coca cola bears.

This thing better earn a PG-13 or I'll be dissapointed.

PiRaTe!!!

Although they're not being released in 2007, the Avatar and Battle Angel movies that James Cameron is going film with his super funky 3D cameras sound excellent.


For 2007 though:

300 - hell yes!
Transformers - it's transformers, need I say more
Smokin Aces - just looks damn cool
TMNT - i grew up with the turtles, so this is a must for me
The Bourne Ultimatum - first 2 movies were excellent
Die Hard 4 - Yippee Ki-yay (please don't suck..)

and there are probably more, but my brain is tired.

flamebroiledchicken

Irond Will wrote:

Furu wrote:

Call me weak-stomached or what have you but I rarely find myself able to enjoy any movie that tries to hammer me with a not-at-all-subtle stance on politics and religion. I could take Chronicles of Narnia because at this point it's a lot more subtle. I couldn't stand all the political "overtones" in Revenge of the Sith. Get back to the droids and epic battles please.

There are of course exceptions, but for the most part I can't think of any off the top of my head.

I don't mind it if it's done well. And I can't think of any examples of movies in which it's done well.

Dr. Strangelove?

Irond Will

flamebroiledchicken wrote:

Irond Will wrote:

Furu wrote:

Call me weak-stomached or what have you but I rarely find myself able to enjoy any movie that tries to hammer me with a not-at-all-subtle stance on politics and religion. I could take Chronicles of Narnia because at this point it's a lot more subtle. I couldn't stand all the political "overtones" in Revenge of the Sith. Get back to the droids and epic battles please.

There are of course exceptions, but for the most part I can't think of any off the top of my head.

I don't mind it if it's done well. And I can't think of any examples of movies in which it's done well.

Dr. Strangelove?

I thought about that one, but it wasn't really political allegory or subtext - it was just straight-up parody.

BioPort

i was about to say something about how 2006 was a horrible year in terms of its films, but then i saw The Fountain.

my. god.

powersurge

MOAR GITS! /drools

And they better not screw up the DTS audio on the Appleseeed 2 DVD. Last I heard they never offered a trade in for the DTS disc they messed up.

I haven't been to see a movie in the theaters in a lonngggg time. I think the newest movie I've seen that was any good was V for Vendetta.

Sam

I don't think Solid State Society is getting theatrical release in Japan. That means there's no chance in hell it'd play anywhere in the states.

Snork

So what's so amazing about The Fountain? I want to see it.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just read what it's really about.

gobassgo

I saw The Host while in Korea.
Pretty good movie. Entertaining, though I don't understand all the rave reviews surrounding it. To me it was just your typical monster movie, with a touching family story stuck in.