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Anyone have to move home over debt?

EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
edited February 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I am in about 2k of debt and it seems impossible to pay off making 700 a month. I pretty much would have to sit at home and do nothing everyday for months on end. So I was thinking about moving back home, my mom lives in town, for the last 4 months of my lease. This would allow me to pay it off quickly.

I know a ton of people are atleast 2k in debt so am I overreacting over this?

Also, what about my roommates I have to find a sublease and I suppose they don't have to let me?

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    if you have 4 months on your lease left, why not pay the minimum (on 2k it should only be like 50 bucks a month) for 4 months and then move home.

    paying off debt is nice but 2k in credit card debt is not something that you have to pay off right away....

    unless you are racking up debt while staying there, in which case you should go home.

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Your lease probably has a "60 days notice" clause, so you'd be stuck there for at least 2 of those 4 months anyhow.

    For $700 a month, list your current expenses and we'll see if we can help prune them down.

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    if you have 4 months on your lease left, why not pay the minimum (on 2k it should only be like 50 bucks a month) for 4 months and then move home.

    paying off debt is nice but 2k in credit card debt is not something that you have to pay off right away....

    unless you are racking up debt while staying there, in which case you should go home.


    Well, the only thing I have to pay for food with is my credit card which is about 1k from max.

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    if you have 4 months on your lease left, why not pay the minimum (on 2k it should only be like 50 bucks a month) for 4 months and then move home.

    paying off debt is nice but 2k in credit card debt is not something that you have to pay off right away....

    unless you are racking up debt while staying there, in which case you should go home.


    Well, the only thing I have to pay for food with is my credit card which is about 1k from max.

    how about borrowing money from your parents?

    im pretty sure if you tell them 'i have no more money for food and i have to stay until my lease runs out' they may loan you some.

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Your lease probably has a "60 days notice" clause, so you'd be stuck there for at least 2 of those 4 months anyhow.

    For $700 a month, list your current expenses and we'll see if we can help prune them down.


    360 for rent.
    58.00 for internet
    14.00 for cable
    100.00 for food
    20 a week for gas

    That pretty much brings me to 692.00 a month.

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    if you have 4 months on your lease left, why not pay the minimum (on 2k it should only be like 50 bucks a month) for 4 months and then move home.

    paying off debt is nice but 2k in credit card debt is not something that you have to pay off right away....

    unless you are racking up debt while staying there, in which case you should go home.


    Well, the only thing I have to pay for food with is my credit card which is about 1k from max.

    how about borrowing money from your parents?

    im pretty sure if you tell them 'i have no more money for food and i have to stay until my lease runs out' they may loan you some.

    Oh of course they would and I had to have them pay for rent this month. I feel like shit...

    I am not starting college until Aug and just don't feel right having them pay for stuff...

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    PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    Well, the only thing I have to pay for food with is my credit card which is about 1k from max.

    Okay, you're at negative cash flow. That's bad regardless of how far into the hole you are.

    See if there's any provisions for leaving the lease early and if it will increase rent for the other guys. If your landlord is sympathetic/generous he may let you leave early and/or not increase it on the other guys until the renewal period comes up.

    $700 a month is a pretty shallow budget to work with - I'm assuming rent is eating at least 50% of that off the top. What else can you trim? Can you get a part-time job? Even stocking shelves at minimum wage.

    Edit - Saw your budget above, pretty much nailed the rent cost. :P

    360 for rent.
    Can't do much with this one.

    58.00 for internet
    Downgrade to Lite-speed or eliminate it entirely. See if you can mooch off a roommate with the promise to throw a $20 their way and not hog it downloading porn.

    14.00 for cable
    Ditch it.

    100.00 for food
    Related thread over here about healthy eating on low budget. You may have to go less healthy and more whole-hog "cheap meals" - pasta, beans, rice, etc.

    20 a week for gas
    Drive less, carpool, take public transit, walk if possible. If it's not, leave earlier, knock off a couple mph, and short-shift. Stretch your mileage. :P

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Cut your internet and cable, as it is the only real expendable thing on there.

    If you can get out of the lease, do so. You're clearly living above your means.

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Cut your internet and cable, as it is the only real expendable thing on there.

    If you can get out of the lease, do so. You're clearly living above your means.

    I can't cut the cable. It is shared... I didn't even want cable as I dont watch it.

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    WootloopsWootloops Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It sounds like you're in over your head. Do you really only make 700$ a month? I can't possibly see how that'd be enough to live on your own - hell I'm a couple thousand dollars in debt and I'm making 6-900$ weekly and there's absolutely no hope of me getting my own place, atleast for another year.

    Sounds to me that moving back in with the 'rents is the best option, seeing as you have no breathing room at all when it comes to finances.

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    See I used to work 35 hours a week and they kept cutting my hours. I was fine for the first 6 months of my lease.. Then they cut me to 30, then 25.. now I am at like 23.....

    I have been looking for jobs but you know the market sucks.


    I can transfer the lease but I doubt my roommates are down for that. I don't know what to tell them.. Oh I spent all my money have to leave..

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    EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Wootloops wrote: »
    It sounds like you're in over your head. Do you really only make 700$ a month? I can't possibly see how that'd be enough to live on your own - hell I'm a couple thousand dollars in debt and I'm making 6-900$ weekly and there's absolutely no hope of me getting my own place, atleast for another year.

    Sounds to me that moving back in with the 'rents is the best option, seeing as you have no breathing room at all when it comes to finances.

    I used to make 950.00ish or more but the company I am working for is failing..

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    Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    360 for rent.
    58.00 for internet - is there a lower tier you could drop down to?
    14.00 for cable - use Hulu, or go without TV for a few months.
    100.00 for food - that's just under $5 per meal, which seems really high. A bag of oatmeal is $2; that's breakfast for two weeks. Rice is cheap, beans are cheap, even a pound of lean ground beef is only $3-4. Put those three things together and you've got 5-6 hearty, healthy, filling meals for about $7.
    20 a week for gas - where are you driving? That's ten gallons of gas every week, which is like 250 miles with midrange fuel economy. That's a lot of miles.

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    I used to make 950.00ish or more but the company I am working for is failing..

    This is what you tell your roommates. Being the "nice guy" here is just going to make that credit balance rack up faster.

    You've got one option: get out.

    And Re: Kate,

    $100/month for food is standard. You can't live well on under that. I work with people's budgets all day long who are in worse shape than the OP and 100/month per person is our minimum we'll allow people to pay to feed themselves, as far as budgeting goes.

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    urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I moved home because I was in debt. Still there now, and racking up more debt in the mean time. Video games is an expensive hobby!

    Also, car repairs.

    But seriously there's no shame in moving back in with the parents. Just remember if you do move back in with them, you'll have to abide by their rules. It sucks at first because you're used to doing whatever the fuck you want... But under their roof you have to listen to them.

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    DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    You could try to get a lower interest loan from a bank (or parents) and use it to pay off the credit card. Credit cards typically rape you with interest, which is what makes a 2k dept difficult to pay off.

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    Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    $100/month for food is standard. You can't live well on under that. I work with people's budgets all day long who are in worse shape than the OP and 100/month per person is our minimum we'll allow people to pay to feed themselves, as far as budgeting goes.
    You're right - I was reading that as $100/week for some reason, hence my "whoa, $5 per meal" figure :P

    To redeem my math skills somewhat, though, the total expenses would be $612 per month, not $692, so there's at least some wiggle room already.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dman wrote: »
    You could try to get a lower interest loan from a bank (or parents) and use it to pay off the credit card. Credit cards typically rape you with interest, which is what makes a 2k dept difficult to pay off.

    This is what I did when I needed about 4k in loans. I put it on my CC first, then got a line of credit from my bank. Used the line of credit, with 4% interest, to pay off the 18% interest CC. saved me probably $1000.

    Although with the US banking system in shambles that may not work right now.

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    $100/month for food is standard. You can't live well on under that. I work with people's budgets all day long who are in worse shape than the OP and 100/month per person is our minimum we'll allow people to pay to feed themselves, as far as budgeting goes.
    You're right - I was reading that as $100/week for some reason, hence my "whoa, $5 per meal" figure :P

    To redeem my math skills somewhat, though, the total expenses would be $612 per month, not $692, so there's at least some wiggle room already.

    There are more than 4 weeks in most months you know.

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    Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Rook wrote: »
    $100/month for food is standard. You can't live well on under that. I work with people's budgets all day long who are in worse shape than the OP and 100/month per person is our minimum we'll allow people to pay to feed themselves, as far as budgeting goes.
    You're right - I was reading that as $100/week for some reason, hence my "whoa, $5 per meal" figure :P

    To redeem my math skills somewhat, though, the total expenses would be $612 per month, not $692, so there's at least some wiggle room already.

    There are more than 4 weeks in most months you know.

    there are months out there with 35 days?

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited February 2009
    Didn't you just go to Mardi Gras? My first piece of advice would be stop taking expensive trips.

    Cut out your unneeded expenses like cable/internet or talk to your roommate about how to resolve the situation. If you can't afford the internet, and they can't afford it on their own then you obviously need to get a cheaper plan.

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    RookRook Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dunadan019 wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    $100/month for food is standard. You can't live well on under that. I work with people's budgets all day long who are in worse shape than the OP and 100/month per person is our minimum we'll allow people to pay to feed themselves, as far as budgeting goes.
    You're right - I was reading that as $100/week for some reason, hence my "whoa, $5 per meal" figure :P

    To redeem my math skills somewhat, though, the total expenses would be $612 per month, not $692, so there's at least some wiggle room already.

    There are more than 4 weeks in most months you know.

    there are months out there with 35 days?

    Are there months with more than 28 days in them? Are there only 48 weeks in a year?

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Donate Plasma.

    Stick that money directly into your debt.

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EliteLamer wrote: »
    360 for rent. - $360
    58.00 for internet -$58
    14.00 for cable -$14
    100.00 for food -$100
    20 a week for gas -$86 (20 x 52 = 1040, 1040 / 12 = 86.6666)

    Total Monthly Expenses = $618
    Total Monthly Net Income = $700
    Monthly Budget Surplus Before Credit Debt = $82

    Get out and pay off that debt. You can't afford to live there anymore.

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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I've done it, and yes, you are living over your means.

    I noticed that car insurance is conspicuously absent from your list there. Are you paying it? Because if you get pulled over without it that's a nice hefty additional fee on the ticket that you really can't afford (trust me, I know).

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    The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I've done it, and yes, you are living over your means.

    I noticed that car insurance is conspicuously absent from your list there. Are you paying it? Because if you get pulled over without it that's a nice hefty additional fee on the ticket that you really can't afford (trust me, I know).

    I assume Mom&Pop are taking care of some of the expenses.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    There are still lots of part-time jobs out there. Papa Johns for instance won't shut up where I am about hiring part-time drivers. Home Depot as well.

    Have you sold off stuff you don't use anymore?

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    SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Donate your precious fluids?

    Good god if they had money for donations here in Canada I would be a millionaire.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    What internet do you have that it's that expensive per person?

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    RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    What internet do you have that it's that expensive per person?
    That's what I'm wondering. I pay $58 a month for cable internet and basic cable TV, which is split with my room mate.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    RNEMESiS42 wrote: »
    What internet do you have that it's that expensive per person?
    That's what I'm wondering. I pay $58 a month for cable internet and basic cable TV, which is split with my room mate.

    I know internet can be around $60 total with Comcast if you don't have a cable package, but that's still $60 total not per person.

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    edited February 2009
    At $700 a month, I suspect you're probably eligible for food stamps. That's one option for saving you money.

    If you don't watch cable, don't pay for it. Pure and simple. I was in a similar situation right out of college, and I told my roommates flat-out that I wasn't going to pay for cable, and if they didn't like it, they could cancel it.

    That Internet bill is crazy expensive. I have "Pro" tier DSL through AT&T, and I pay $60 a month and that includes home phone service and all taxes and fees. If I didn't give a shit about speed, I could get their cheap $14.99/mo. service.

    If I were in your shoes, I'd find a way to work more - I'd take a second job, or more hours at my first job. Go to a temp agency and find a data entry job, paint houses, wait tables, deliver pizzas, serve coffee, whatever.

    If none of those options are viable, then absolutely go live at home. You have to look out for your own future and your own credit rating, and if your roommates can't understand that, fuck them. If you really feel guilty about it, put an ad on Craigslist looking for a replacement roommate for them. But don't stay in a bad financial situation. Just say "Look guys, the economy's bad, my employer is going under, and I can't find another job. I have to leave."

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