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I want to build, build, BUILD!

eobeteobet 8-bit childhoodSwedenRegistered User regular
edited March 2009 in Games and Technology
I find games in which you create things without having to worry that someone will come and blow them up to be relaxing.

So, far I have played (sort of chronologically):

Settlers II - Where building actually takes the rear seat in favour of traffic management.
Sim City 2000 - Pure building fun, no more, no less. Oh, and the mega cities on a tile ruled.
Patrician II - Where you build your fortune (and end up mostly looking at the boring map instead of the gorgeous-but-useless city graphics).
Anno 1503 - Nice long production chains, but oddly linear gameplay.
Startopia - Innovative fun Theme Hospital style building, but in space!
Stronghold - Rocking castle building, but horribly butchered sequel.

So that's where I'm coming from, and this is what I've played lately:

Settlers 6 - Better graphics than Settlers II 10th Anniversary, but so linear it hurts!
Anno 1701 - Again, gorgeous graphics, but dumbed down gameplay and cheating AI.

What are some other new games in the same vein I might have missed? I tried a demo of this City Life (or was it Cities?) game, but it never felt right for some reason...

PS. I deliberately left out all Tycoon games, since even though the originals are classics, 90% of them today are shit and I don't care about them. I also left out the City Building series of games, because again, though they are classics, Tilted Mill has seriously fucked up the later ones, including the new Sim City Societies.

DS. Yes, I missed the Tropico games, and I don't think I'll be going back to them. I want new stuff. Perhaps I need to turn to indie stuff? Does it exist in this genre?

Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Deja vu, didn't I make this thread before? :D

    Except I wanted sci-fi. Can Sid Meier make a new Alpha Centauri (but more building-focused) or someone tell Will Wright to make SimCity Mars 5000 or something.

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you have an Xbox 360, the XBLA game A Kingdom for Keflings sounds right up your alley. It might be a bit shallow for your tastes, but it's definitely designed to be relaxing.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Personally I long to relive those idle days as a kid with a PS1 and a copy of C&C Red Alert Retaliation, where I would play on a map with a huge body of water separating me from my enemy and just build bases and sub-bases and supply posts and make patrols and all that stuff.

    Even though I now have Red Alert + Expansions for my PC, I don't know the name of that map! It was wide and had angular land, and it was snowy...

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you have a Wii, try Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles: My Life as a King, i really enjoyed it, found it really relaxing and addictive for such a simple city building game. Giving out quests to adventurers and stuff was fun too.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    The Caeser series can be played almost entirely peacefully if you choose to. Even if there's the slightly warlike part one legion and you're fine.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Two things:

    1) Did you know about the information button in Startopia? I didn't until about my third time through. Mouse over any object or person or whatever and press a certain button (F1 I think?) and you get a humorous little description

    2) Black and White 2, for all the problems people had with it, was a very relaxing city building game if you were a good god. Especially when you beat an island and have the freedom to just keep on building anywhere you like. It satisfied me in a very strange way

    Of course then I got to the fourth island and got consistently steamrolled and shelved it, but those first few lands are really very peaceful and nice

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    Dungeon Keeper 2's pet dungeons were fun to play with and then release heroes into out of sheer bloody minded maliciousness. I also had a lot of fun with Afterlife for a long time, although it's very very complex and probably a bit older than you're looking for.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pharoah!

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  • IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You know I could really go for a sci-fi building game. Sins of a Solar Empire has kind of whet my appetite.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Pharoah!

    But I already suggested Caeser.


    Heyoooo

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    If you have an Xbox 360, the XBLA game A Kingdom for Keflings sounds right up your alley. It might be a bit shallow for your tastes, but it's definitely designed to be relaxing.

    This may be my first XBLA purchase. Schweet!

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I know you said you didn't want to go with Tropico but Tropico + the expansion is fantastic. #2 is okay but worse. Majesty + the expansion might interest you, although it's kind of old. Ditto with Dungeon Keeper 2.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I know you said you didn't want to go with Tropico but Tropico + the expansion is fantastic. #2 is okay but worse. Majesty + the expansion might interest you, although it's kind of old. Ditto with Dungeon Keeper 2.

    Evil genius might be worth considering with DK2 as well.... same general idea-ish

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    but in Majesty you're guaranteed to have your city constantly attacked by monsters.

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  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Do you have a Wii? You might like the Wii Ware Crystal Chronicles. Build up a city, train adventurers, and send them out to blow other people's shit up while you sit back in your castle completely safe.

    Fairly simple compared to everything else in this thread, though. Half the gameplay is in the adventuring, and you don't get to do that, only look at the reports at the end of the day to see what your adventures did. It's pretty neat, though, all of the fighting is fully-simulated FF-style battles, with turns and abilities and such. The game is really about the adventurers, the city is mostly a support structure for them.

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    I know you said you didn't want to go with Tropico but Tropico + the expansion is fantastic. #2 is okay but worse. Majesty + the expansion might interest you, although it's kind of old. Ditto with Dungeon Keeper 2.

    Evil genius might be worth considering with DK2 as well.... same general idea-ish

    I wanted to play Evil Genius terribly. Alas, it seemed allergic to my PC -- everything else would run just fine apart from it, and ultimately I had to stop playing due to the incessant interruptions.

    This fine title is sitting on my shelf next to Beyond Good and Evil, awaiting the day when I can play them in some sort of clean and controlled, virtualized sort of environment.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Khavall wrote: »
    I know you said you didn't want to go with Tropico but Tropico + the expansion is fantastic. #2 is okay but worse. Majesty + the expansion might interest you, although it's kind of old. Ditto with Dungeon Keeper 2.

    Evil genius might be worth considering with DK2 as well.... same general idea-ish

    I wanted to play Evil Genius terribly. Alas, it seemed allergic to my PC -- everything else would run just fine apart from it, and ultimately I had to stop playing due to the incessant interruptions.

    This fine title is sitting on my shelf next to Beyond Good and Evil, awaiting the day when I can play them in some sort of clean and controlled, virtualized sort of environment.

    Evil Genius is kind of like..... chemo. Yeah, it makes your hair fall out and kind of kills you, but it saves your life!



    It's bug-ridden crap that's just so enjoyable you keep dealing with it.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Evil Genius and Dungeon Keeper 2 are two of my favorite games, but there is a focus on combat that might not be what you're looking for.

    But check out the sim theme park games, or roller coaster tycoon. Tons of fun, I keep coming back to them.

    Edit: I've played through to completion Evil genius 4-5 times. Where are these bugs you speak of?

    One nice thing you can do with the game is put in a couple of addons that make the game a lot more friendly, like bumping the minion cap to 200 instead of 100, and making henchmen not lose lives when killed by super agents.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Oh God Roller Coaster Tycoon.

    My sister and I were the perfect RCT pair. We ruled at that goddamn game.

    I love it so

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Simcity 4 with enhancements makes it a very sexy game.

    More info can be found here: The diagonal is a lie.

    And please, keep an eye on this: CITIES XL

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Simcity 4 with enhancements makes it a very sexy game.

    More info can be found here: The diagonal is a lie.

    And please, keep an eye on this: CITIES XL

    A year or so ago, something reminded me of SC4 and I thought, "you know, that game was great, but the community addons were all over the board and it would be great if someone just made a definitive package."

    :!!:


    And Cities XL has me hoping against hope that it might just be the spiritual Sim City 5. At first I was highly dubious those guys could pull it off, but it seems they've really been learning as they go, and some of the recent developments look amazingly promising.

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  • freakish lightfreakish light butterdick jones and his heavenly asshole machineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Oh, is that the new City Life game? I enjoyed City Life, I wonder what happened to my copy.

    Probably lost it somewhere. Oh well.

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  • MorkathMorkath Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    If you have an Xbox 360, the XBLA game A Kingdom for Keflings sounds right up your alley. It might be a bit shallow for your tastes, but it's definitely designed to be relaxing.

    Once you play through this once, there's really no reason to play it again. Insanely linear.

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  • eobeteobet 8-bit childhood SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Thanks for the tips, guys!

    Still, it seems that not many games are released in this genre anymore. Pity.

    I don't own an Xbox 360, but I do own a Wii and have looked into the Final Fantasy city game, but I'm holding out for Little King's Story (which might be equal amounts of fighting and building sadly, I'm not sure).

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2009
    Evil Genius and Dungeon Keeper 2 are two of my favorite games, but there is a focus on combat that might not be what you're looking for.

    But check out the sim theme park games, or roller coaster tycoon. Tons of fun, I keep coming back to them.

    Edit: I've played through to completion Evil genius 4-5 times. Where are these bugs you speak of?

    One nice thing you can do with the game is put in a couple of addons that make the game a lot more friendly, like bumping the minion cap to 200 instead of 100, and making henchmen not lose lives when killed by super agents.

    Well, traps are nigh worthless, and some of the minion/henchmen stat definitions are very obviously busted, the cashrooms can be a bug riddled nightmare, etc etc. Most of it is admittedly just wonky balance and/or AI issues, but there are quite a few out and out bugs.

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  • TechnicalityTechnicality Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Did nobody say dwarf fortress yet?

    If you build on an island you won't get the hordes of evil coming to visit.

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  • exoplasmexoplasm Gainfully Employed Near Blizzard HQRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Did nobody say dwarf fortress yet?

    If you build on an island you won't get the hordes of evil coming to visit.

    I was just thinking about this. If only it was easier to grasp the gameplay.

    Someone needs to make a sci-fi DF-type game.

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  • GrudgeGrudge blessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    And please, keep an eye on this: CITIES XL

    Whoa, that looks amazing. I thought we'd never see a next generation city building game, but those guys seem to be on the right track. I'm really looking forwards to this.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    ...spore?

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Hinterland, if you dont mind a little adventuring mixed in

    Game gets rediculously when you get a necromancer, have him power up his skeletons forever, and then have as many as possible follow you. They kill everything.

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  • IriahIriah Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Grudge wrote: »
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    And please, keep an eye on this: CITIES XL

    Whoa, that looks amazing. I thought we'd never see a next generation city building game, but those guys seem to be on the right track. I'm really looking forwards to this.

    a Q1 2009 release, too (or so they say on their FAQ)

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  • EriicEriic Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Garry's Mod yet. It's a fucking physics sandbox. GMod uses the objects and stuff from source-engine games and gives you tools with which you can manipulate those objects for your amusement. Easily worth hundreds of hours of entertainment if you're into buildy games.

    Also Spore. Spore is fun too.

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  • SonarSonar Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Jesus effing christ! Get rollercoaster tycoon 3! Soooo goooood! I recreated a theme park from where I grew up and had more fun riding the virtual rides than the real ones.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Aroduc wrote: »
    Evil Genius and Dungeon Keeper 2 are two of my favorite games, but there is a focus on combat that might not be what you're looking for.

    But check out the sim theme park games, or roller coaster tycoon. Tons of fun, I keep coming back to them.

    Edit: I've played through to completion Evil genius 4-5 times. Where are these bugs you speak of?

    One nice thing you can do with the game is put in a couple of addons that make the game a lot more friendly, like bumping the minion cap to 200 instead of 100, and making henchmen not lose lives when killed by super agents.

    Well, traps are nigh worthless, and some of the minion/henchmen stat definitions are very obviously busted, the cashrooms can be a bug riddled nightmare, etc etc. Most of it is admittedly just wonky balance and/or AI issues, but there are quite a few out and out bugs.

    Yeah, there's some balance issues for sure. I haven't encountered too many bugs though, at least nothing game breaking. I installed it on my work computer, and was playing it last week actually when I felt like slacking off haha.

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  • eobeteobet 8-bit childhood SwedenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Spoit wrote: »
    ...spore?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    Raslin wrote: »
    Hinterland, if you dont mind a little adventuring mixed in

    Game gets rediculously when you get a necromancer, have him power up his skeletons forever, and then have as many as possible follow you. They kill everything.

    Ah, Hinterland! Good tip, I completely forgot about that one. Perhaps it will be Tilted Mill's salvation, though I doubt it. Also, it's going to be pretty much in direct competition with Little King Story for me.

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    eobet wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    ...spore?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    Raslin wrote: »
    Hinterland, if you dont mind a little adventuring mixed in

    Game gets rediculously when you get a necromancer, have him power up his skeletons forever, and then have as many as possible follow you. They kill everything.

    Ah, Hinterland! Good tip, I completely forgot about that one. Perhaps it will be Tilted Mill's salvation, though I doubt it. Also, it's going to be pretty much in direct competition with Little King Story for me.

    Hinterland isn't really what you're looking for, the town building is really...light, I suppose? I know I spend more time killing goblins or whatever.

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  • ValkunValkun Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Just because I didn't see it in your list and several people have asked for sci-fi themed building games:

    Moon Tycoon

    It's circa 2001 and I remember it was entertaining, at least for a while. There's a demo if you just want to play around with it.

    I assume you meant Microprose's Tycoon games since just about everyone who makes games in that genre goes with a Tycoon in the title.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Satsumomo wrote: »
    Simcity 4 with enhancements makes it a very sexy game.

    More info can be found here: The diagonal is a lie.

    And please, keep an eye on this: CITIES XL

    A year or so ago, something reminded me of SC4 and I thought, "you know, that game was great, but the community addons were all over the board and it would be great if someone just made a definitive package."

    :!!:


    And Cities XL has me hoping against hope that it might just be the spiritual Sim City 5. At first I was highly dubious those guys could pull it off, but it seems they've really been learning as they go, and some of the recent developments look amazingly promising.

    I'm glad I found just what you needed! I used that package and it was pretty great, and it wasn't at all overwhelming, it felt natural.

    I was really sad when Societies came out, it was pretty much what doomed Simcity to not have any realistic incarnations anymore. (Well that and Spore)

    CitiesXL is supposed to be quite different from City Life, it looks to be a lot more like SC4, but with even more simulation, but not overly realistic like City Life. I'm really looking forward to it!

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  • Death Cab For AlbieDeath Cab For Albie Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    My Life as a MFING King!

    It's terrible kiddy, but it's fun as hell and I wish they'd make a full game version of it that is much more in depth.

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  • GalagaGalaxianGalagaGalaxian Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If you can find it, I'll throw in another vote for Tropico.

    Who doesn't want to be a despot ruler of their own tiny Caribbean island micro-nation?

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