The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 11.11.11 Here, there be dragons!

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  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I've always assumed that there must be some people on this earth who, when presented with an at least occasionally twitching -if not living- world removed of consequence, do not immediately concoct and act on plans to torment and crush its inhabitants in an orgy of violence and suffering. They must instead be guided, much in the way a baby bird must be sent hurtling through the air from it's nest only with a much greater potential for cruelty and a larger crater.

    As there are men who will club and toast a seal simply because it looks too cute to live, there are those who will build a tower of burning tires, give it a stupid name, and charge people money to come breathe the smoke and talk about art. It takes all kinds.

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  • TaramoorTaramoor Storyteller Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    deowolf wrote: »
    o_O .

    Dude, I don't want to be that guy, but you're kinda doing it wrong.

    I'm aware.

    But the first five or six times I played it on PC I got out of the prison and spent ten hours wandering the imperial city before just setting the game down. By using the achievements as a loose guide of things to do I can wander from place to place and find the ambient quests without feeling like there's no direction at all. It just helps me keep focused.

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  • deowolfdeowolf is allowed to do that. Traffic.Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I see. Thank you for explaining yourself to me. I find your cause just - go forth and Scroll the Elder as you wish.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Babble wrote: »
    Antithesis wrote: »
    Yes! It is finally done! Almost more than 200 .esp and .bsa's in my data folder. FCOM with SI+Knights quests and improved landscapes and cities and optimization and Deadly Reflex and everything I could find. And it runs!
    Well, better landscapes didn't work with AEVWD, so I still have draw distance issues, but I don't care!


    It is fun.

    When people start talking about modding their games with awesome stuff sometimes I feel like an idiot for buying Oblivion on the Xbox 360.

    Eh. A vast majority of mods are made by people that have no concept of game design, and you're at the whim of their very personal opinion when installing their mod.

    I have a PC that can run Oblivion, but I just enjoy playing the 360 version because a) it just works and b) I find the controller better for controlling this one.

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  • FlyingmanFlyingman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I am hoping for TES5 news some time this year :D

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  • Venkman90Venkman90 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Babble wrote: »
    Antithesis wrote: »
    Yes! It is finally done! Almost more than 200 .esp and .bsa's in my data folder. FCOM with SI+Knights quests and improved landscapes and cities and optimization and Deadly Reflex and everything I could find. And it runs!
    Well, better landscapes didn't work with AEVWD, so I still have draw distance issues, but I don't care!


    It is fun.

    When people start talking about modding their games with awesome stuff sometimes I feel like an idiot for buying Oblivion on the Xbox 360.

    Eh. A vast majority of mods are made by people that have no concept of game design, and you're at the whim of their very personal opinion when installing their mod.

    I have a PC that can run Oblivion, but I just enjoy playing the 360 version because a) it just works and b) I find the controller better for controlling this one.

    I play it on the 360 due to it just being easier to pick up and play, the mods I had on the PC were nice and all but they were mostly aesthetic (the ranger armour / bow one was good mind) I never went for the huger overhaul mods so can't comment on them.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I have 'Oblivion: GotY Edition' for 360 on it's way to me from Goozex. This will be my Elder Scrolls cherry breaking and I'm quite excited.

    Can someone give me the abbreviated version of how to not gimp myself with the levelling up system? Or have I been falsely led to believe that this is a danger?

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Can someone give me the abbreviated version of how to not gimp myself with the levelling up system? Or have I been falsely led to believe that this is a danger?

    A couple of differnt ways, depending on how crazy you want to be about it.

    First, just like Morrowind, no matter what you do, if you have a decent build from the start, you'll be unstoppable no matter what. You could use one of the defaults (Thief, Fighter, etc.) and be fine.

    If you'd like to play with the stats more, though, one method is to put all the skills you don't use as your Majors. You can also then put the types of skills that only level when you use them (Alchamy, Sneak, etc) as Majors, so you have complete control when you level.

    Some people like to build all their skills up while staying at Level 1 - this keeps the annyoying leveling monsters at bay. Again, it's really only a problem during the awkward teenage (10-15) levels, then you can lay waste.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Fucking hell I'm trying to use the fcom cheat sheet and there's dead links for patches and can't martigan keep a consistent website and fuck I guess I'll get the newest version of MMM and hope it doesn't fuck up.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Well, can't even get to the loading screen. Guess I'm starting over and forgetting fcom.

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  • SkannerJATSkannerJAT Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Cant recall the name of it, but the only mod I utilized was the one that made the monster levels fixed. The scaling could get rather annoying if you didnt built your character proper. Had a friend that leveled up from alchemy so he pretty much was raped walking out of the city.

    I like it becuase I can explore and feel danagerous. Found a cave that I explored wtih a assassin character I made. And I HAD to sneak around as the trolls would rape be in straight combat. Although I could take them if I was sneaked and hit them with a melee weapon. Definately helped me stay in the game.

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  • AntithesisAntithesis Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    august wrote: »
    Fucking hell I'm trying to use the fcom cheat sheet and there's dead links for patches and can't martigan keep a consistent website and fuck I guess I'll get the newest version of MMM and hope it doesn't fuck up.

    I should've kept all the links I used! Yeah, I had to look up a few things.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Well I got fcom working. But there's some missing-texture exclamation points running around. And I have no idea what mod is responsible.

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  • AntithesisAntithesis Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    august wrote: »
    Well I got fcom working. But there's some missing-texture exclamation points running around. And I have no idea what mod is responsible.

    Y'know, I found those to be more annoying than the absence of the meshes themselves.

    There are mods that let you find out specifically what's causing the problem:

    http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16704

    Or you can just remove them entirely- personally I don't even notice where meshes are missing without the gigantic glaring yellow exclamation point:

    http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22848

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Much obliged.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Are there any good face mods out there? Comprehensive ones?

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  • AntithesisAntithesis Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So I reinstalled and started playing Oblivion again.

    You know what's soooo awesome about Oblivion? Lack of an artificial good/vs evil measurement. There have been so many times in other games that measure your good and evil where I've reloaded a save or done something counter to my normal inclination because I didn't want it to mess with my alignment chart.

    In Oblivion, I can do what I want, the most effective way that I want, and I don't have to worry about not being able to get some quest, or not being able to use some item because I dropped below a threshold of good vs evil.

    For example, the other day I was asked to get the blood of an Argonian with a special dagger. You know what? I had a hell of a time finding an Argonian. So I went to the imperial city, stabbed an Argonian Hobo, and ran like hell. The guards arrested me, I paid 40 coins, and that was it. Quest completed.

    It's really interesting because I generally am inclined to do things the good way, and in Oblivion I still do for the most part, but I also feel comfortable bending or breaking the rules when I need to. It's actually kind of liberating.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    I have 'Oblivion: GotY Edition' for 360 on it's way to me from Goozex. This will be my Elder Scrolls cherry breaking and I'm quite excited.

    Can someone give me the abbreviated version of how to not gimp myself with the levelling up system? Or have I been falsely led to believe that this is a danger?

    Honestly, don't worry about it. All you have to remember is leveling up is triggered by increasing your primary skills (of your class). If you find the difficulty of the game too hard or easy, there's a slider in the options.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    I have 'Oblivion: GotY Edition' for 360 on it's way to me from Goozex. This will be my Elder Scrolls cherry breaking and I'm quite excited.

    Can someone give me the abbreviated version of how to not gimp myself with the levelling up system? Or have I been falsely led to believe that this is a danger?

    Honestly, don't worry about it. All you have to remember is leveling up is triggered by increasing your primary skills (of your class). If you find the difficulty of the game too hard or easy, there's a slider in the options.

    Also, if there's anything in the game that annoys you, or feels like an unnecessary restriction, chances are, there's a mod out there that fixes it. For example, I've got a mod that gives all your magical items unlimited charges. It kind of makes magical items too powerful, but they're supposed to be, they're magical.

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  • JONJONAUGJONJONAUG Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I turned the slider down after leveling up to about level 35 or so in vanilla Oblivion. By that point nothing could kill me anyway, but it took a stupidly long time for me to kill anything (ie: going through any ruin and encountering nothing except for Gloom Wraiths with 400 or so HP each).

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    JONJONAUG wrote: »
    I turned the slider down after leveling up to about level 35 or so in vanilla Oblivion. By that point nothing could kill me anyway, but it took a stupidly long time for me to kill anything (ie: going through any ruin and encountering nothing except for Gloom Wraiths with 400 or so HP each).

    I hate wraiths. They drain my endurance and then come up and beat the crap out of me while I can't move. Faded wraiths suck for my mid-level mage.

    I might install one of those monster level normalizing mods. I like to feel that having spent months training my skills and magic, that some goblin's not going to give me a hard time.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I loved Sneak.

    Take out almost any monster with one arrow, which you can then usually recover & reuse. Always felt a little out of character crawling around in my bright, glowing Amber armor, but I got over it.

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  • DissociaterDissociater Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    I loved Sneak.

    Take out almost any monster with one arrow, which you can then usually recover & reuse. Always felt a little out of character crawling around in my bright, glowing Amber armor, but I got over it.

    That's the way I first played the game. And I still have sneak and marksmen on this character as well. I found that I was one shotting everything for a while, then I suddenly hit a wall where I wasn't killing things in one shot, and I was only doing like 1/4 damage, and then they'd rush me and I'd have no melee skills to fall back on so I ended up running around the room like an idiot turning my pursuers into pincushions while they tried to catch me.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    What bow & arrows were you using? I always aimed for the head, no idea if the game had modeled (?) damage or not.

    I usually went with the complete matching Amber set, just because I'm metro that way, but the bow you get from an Isles quest was pretty powerful too.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Neither Oblivion nor Morrowind have locational damage, as far as I can remember.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Yeah so I have a bunch of armor textures missing, which means a lot of characters look like floating heads.

    Think I'm gonna start over. Just do OOO, then add MMM for OOO and build slowly on top of that.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Oh man that thread seems a little more clear than the cheat sheet God help I'm going to try again.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I've uninstalled and re-installed Oblivion twice now, and deleted the old folder each time, and can't make it to the loading without a ctd.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I uninstalled everything Oblivion related I could find, ran CCleaner a registry cleaner, then re-installed. Still can't make it to the first loading screen.

    So basically unless someone can help me out the only way I can play Oblivion on this machine now is to reformat.

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  • Jam WarriorJam Warrior Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I know that saying this helps you not one bit, and (quite justifiably) probably only makes you want to stab me, but that above is the reason I went 360 over PC.

    No mods, but also no muss and no fuss, it just works.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    To be fair, most of the "muss and fuss" comes from the major Oblivion overhaul mods being honestly too big for their own good. A bit of modularity would have done them wonders.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I just uninstalled python and well, ran the cleaner a few more times, resent, reinstalled.

    Still fucked.

    This sucks.

    EDIT: Holy shit, all I had to do this whole time is go to My Documents where apparently Oblivion keeps save games and delete them.

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  • FremFrem Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Python? How does that have anything to do with Oblivion?

    Have you tried deleting your INI file in "My Documents\My Games\Oblivion"? I know if the resolution is set to certain values, the game crashes for me. Presumably other keys in the file might do that also.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You have to install Python for Wrye Bash.

    Problem is solved now though.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    august wrote: »
    You have to install Python for Wrye Bash.

    Problem is solved now though.

    HAHA! This totally fucked me up too. I thought I was an idiot. Glad to see I'm not the only one :p

    Anywho, there's gotta be a quicker way to get more magicka in Morrowind.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Like, max magicka? What race/birthsign are you?

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  • MordrackMordrack Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Big Isy wrote: »
    Anywho, there's gotta be a quicker way to get more magicka in Morrowind.
    Fortify Intelligence potions are a must for any non Breton or Altmer, or of the right birth signs.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Some Fortify Intelligence constant effect enchants on clothing work wonders as well.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    korodullin wrote: »
    Some Fortify Intelligence constant effect enchants on clothing work wonders as well.

    yeah, i decided this would be the best way. I'm breton btw. God knows what sign I am.

    Anyway, the reason I wanted to increase the magika was because I couldn't summon a golden saint. Turns out spell creating is my best friend :D

    Permanent Saint FTW! I've also created a fortify intelligence 400pts for 3 secs, specifically for enchanting but it doesn't always work. I really need to work on the Bloodmoon stuff so I can get the fortify skill spell.

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