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So ever since I was a kid I realized I could make a noise in the back of my throat. I also found out that it makes a nice fast vibration on the inside of my head that ... I don't know how to really explain it, scratches an itch? Like, I feel like I have an itch inside my ear and when I create a vacuum in my mouth, then try to expand it, this noise happens and it vibrates the inside of my throat and scratches that itch.
Poor explanation aside, this noise is completely noticeable to people and most people have never heard a human make it...so that's weird. The thing is, I do it unconsciously and in my sleep, which really grates on my girlfriend (who is a light sleeper).
Does anyone have ANY idea what I'm talking about doing and what I can do to fix it?
Yep, I know exactly what it is. I can do it, as can a lot of people, and I've even got a friend who does the same thing -- does it all the damn time. I used to do it more when I had more sinus problems, but now I haven't done it in so long that it would take me a while to pick it up again. This friend, though, he does it like chewing gum; I think he does it because he's nervous or something.
Thing is, except from the sleeping, it's completely voluntary on your part. You just have to... stop doing it. I mean it's like chewing your nails, you just have to stop chewing your nails, there's no mystery behind it or magic drug.
It probably only feels like you need to do it because you keep doing it. Like if you scratch your nose too much and it gets red?
Good way to equate it, I guess, but is it a need, since it happens when I'm not conciously making an effort to do it?
You'll do things during your sleep that you do during waking hours; it's not like you're a different person when you're asleep, after all. If you bit your nails habitually, you'd probably bite them at night, too. I mean, if you're dreaming, and you're dreaming you're you, you're gonna do the things you normally do most of the time.
There are a few exceptions, such as sleepwalking, sleeptalking, and teeth grinding, but most activities like this that occur during sleep are, as far as I know, simply because you're doing them when you're awake.
Does this happen involuntarily when you're awake? I kind of doubt it, since I know exactly what the thing is that you're talking about. Can you go a whole day w/o doing it?
Does this happen involuntarily when you're awake? I kind of doubt it, since I know exactly what the thing is that you're talking about. Can you go a whole day w/o doing it?
I did it 5 minutes ago without even thinking about it, caught myself, and stopped. Literally, I have no idea I'm doing it until I do. I had this leg-bouncing thing (and posted in that thread) that happens almost identically.
I've tried really hard to go without doing it, and some days I go without doing it at all (or I don't remember doing it, for instance, yesterday even though I may have lol)
I used to do this as well, but it wasn't an ongoing thing. Just occasionally. I haven't done it in years though. Can't help you much, but I know exactly what you mean.
yeah I think I get what you're talking about and I did it as a kid all the fucking time. I grew out of it at a certain point but one of my managers at my new job does it and I've been doing it a little bit when I think about it.
Best advice I can give you is to just resist it as much as possible and eventually it'll stop becoming such a necessity.
John Carmack has something similar if it's any consolation.
Inquisitor772 x Penny Arcade Fight Club ChampionA fixed point in space and timeRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
My imagination must be weaksauce, because based on the description I have no idea what you're talking about. Can someone put up a video or something, just so the rest of us know what the hell you guys are referring to? =P
It's not complicated, you put your tongue against the top of your mouth and suck. Then you pull your tongue back into your throat and it scratches the most unholiest of itches.
I know exactly what you are talking about, as it happens to my friend. His parents lock him out of the house on a regular basis because he would do it indoors near them without realizing it. I also have a friend that physically beats him if he makes the noise when she is around. He still does it. I think you're fucked unless you force yourself to stop.
I think I know exactly what you mean, I used to do it almost constantly when I had hayfever and it relieved the throat/sinus itching for a second. When I noticed that no one else did it I just made a conscious effort to stop (still do it when no one is around though).
Hmm, I thought at first you were talking about a glottal fry, but the description up earlier doesn't sound like it.
I used to do that all the time. Still do occasionally for kicks, but if you find yourself doing it habitually you need to make a conscious effort to stop. I used to have the same problem with one-handed clapping. Just stop immediately if you ever catch yourself doing it. Maybe pinch yourself on the arm or something as a little reminder. It'll probably take weeks to stop. I know it did for me.
It's not complicated, you put your tongue against the top of your mouth and suck. Then you pull your tongue back into your throat and it scratches the most unholiest of itches.
This is exactly the description for how I do it.
I've been making a conscious effort to restrain myself, but it sometimes just happens. I'll put up a video later so you guys with bad imaginations can see what we're talking about. It's...weird.
I do it whenever I have an itch in my throat. Works quite well, although I don't understand why someone would feel compelled to do it randomly. Does it feel good to you? If I don't have an itch going on, it's a somewhat uncomfortable feeling, so naturally I don't do it.
Perhaps if you have a habit of doing it, you can scale it back. Like just use enough suction for a single "tick" noise. I do that sometimes or a few times in a row. It's much less obnoxious and most people won't even notice it.
I do it whenever I have an itch in my throat. Works quite well, although I don't understand why someone would feel compelled to do it randomly. Does it feel good to you? If I don't have an itch going on, it's a somewhat uncomfortable feeling, so naturally I don't do it.
Perhaps if you have a habit of doing it, you can scale it back. Like just use enough suction for a single "tick" noise. I do that sometimes or a few times in a row. It's much less obnoxious and most people won't even notice it.
Well, if I put my fingers in my ears when I do it, the sound is more intense and ... scratches harder? It does feel pretty good but if I do it too much, it can start to feel raw. I always felt/thought it was related to my Eustachian tubes.
I'm pretty sure i know what you're talking about and I do it too, I couldn't help doing it all the time.. sometimes it would just be a few "ticks" in a row and sometimes i would stretch it out like a purr I'm not sure why i felt compelled to do it!!!
I eventually trained myself not to do it but started again and I think it has something to do with stress but to stop it you need to prevent yourself from doing it, because after all you don't need to.
The urge you're feeling sounds a bit like Tourette's, or another tic disorder. I know we generally try not to diagnose on this board, but it sounds a lot like how my tics are.
"Immediately preceding tic onset, most individuals with Tourette's are aware of an urge,[18][19] similar to the need to sneeze or scratch an itch." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome
While it doesn't sound like you have multiple tics, or even anything that needs treated, I thought it might be nice to know that other people do things like that, too. Of course, it's possible that this is totally off base, but I just wanted to throw it out there.
admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited November 2009
You need to train yourself to not do it. What I did to break my habit of chewing my nails was every time I caught myself chewing, I'd step away from whatever I was doing -- turn off any movies, music, everything -- and meditate for one minute. Set an egg timer if you have one. The key is that the bad behavior is likely a stress response, so you're not just trying to kill the bad behavior, but replace the bad behavior with a healthier stress alleviator.
Huh. I think a lot of people are that way, but some are way more inclined towards habit forming behaviour. I've never been diagnosed or even talked about it really, but I've always thought that people with these types of things are way more prone to it, and more prone to other addictions/habits as well. Or maybe its just bad self-control Anyway, I've totally had what you had. On top of that, I developed habits of constantly equalizing pressure in my ears (I have it to a point where I don't need to yawn or plug my nose... just manipulate my jaw and force some air through my nose. Most people can't do it but Im willing to bet there are others out there!), I had this lip curl thing going on, like Elvis, which made a small clicking and which once started I could barely stop. When I was young I constantly made the rockstar "devil" sign with my hands because it stretched the skin between my fingers and felt good. And shaky leg. Dang shaky leg happens all the time and is unfortunately quite violent, like, vibrating the dinner table and everyone yelling at me violent.
I've curbed them all after realizing how ridiculous I looked, but there's no magic way. It's pure concious effort and denying yourself to do the action even if it feels good for some reason. Sometimes they come back though.... typing this thread has all the 'itches' going full-alarm right now, so its just conciously not doing them. Its tough but not hard.
A new one has started where I constantly blink, hard, and too often. Weird. That's really tough to get a hold of because you naturally blink and you cant just stop yourself.
A friend theorized it was an addictive personality. I mean I even got addicted/habit formed into chewing gum, all the time, to the point where I became addicted to Aspartame and had to wean myself off of it (even went through withdrawal, which was hilarious given it was caused by GUM). I kinda agree with him though, watched myself gamble and just have way too much fun and just had to get outta there and never go back.
In other news - I thought Tourettes was just screaming curses out randomly?
edit - woah. Just read that Tourettes link :shock:
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Thing is, except from the sleeping, it's completely voluntary on your part. You just have to... stop doing it. I mean it's like chewing your nails, you just have to stop chewing your nails, there's no mystery behind it or magic drug.
You'll do things during your sleep that you do during waking hours; it's not like you're a different person when you're asleep, after all. If you bit your nails habitually, you'd probably bite them at night, too. I mean, if you're dreaming, and you're dreaming you're you, you're gonna do the things you normally do most of the time.
There are a few exceptions, such as sleepwalking, sleeptalking, and teeth grinding, but most activities like this that occur during sleep are, as far as I know, simply because you're doing them when you're awake.
Does this happen involuntarily when you're awake? I kind of doubt it, since I know exactly what the thing is that you're talking about. Can you go a whole day w/o doing it?
I did it 5 minutes ago without even thinking about it, caught myself, and stopped. Literally, I have no idea I'm doing it until I do. I had this leg-bouncing thing (and posted in that thread) that happens almost identically.
I've tried really hard to go without doing it, and some days I go without doing it at all (or I don't remember doing it, for instance, yesterday even though I may have lol)
Best advice I can give you is to just resist it as much as possible and eventually it'll stop becoming such a necessity.
John Carmack has something similar if it's any consolation.
but they're listening to every word I say
I used to do that all the time. Still do occasionally for kicks, but if you find yourself doing it habitually you need to make a conscious effort to stop. I used to have the same problem with one-handed clapping. Just stop immediately if you ever catch yourself doing it. Maybe pinch yourself on the arm or something as a little reminder. It'll probably take weeks to stop. I know it did for me.
I've been making a conscious effort to restrain myself, but it sometimes just happens. I'll put up a video later so you guys with bad imaginations can see what we're talking about. It's...weird.
Perhaps if you have a habit of doing it, you can scale it back. Like just use enough suction for a single "tick" noise. I do that sometimes or a few times in a row. It's much less obnoxious and most people won't even notice it.
Well, if I put my fingers in my ears when I do it, the sound is more intense and ... scratches harder? It does feel pretty good but if I do it too much, it can start to feel raw. I always felt/thought it was related to my Eustachian tubes.
I eventually trained myself not to do it but started again and I think it has something to do with stress but to stop it you need to prevent yourself from doing it, because after all you don't need to.
"Immediately preceding tic onset, most individuals with Tourette's are aware of an urge,[18][19] similar to the need to sneeze or scratch an itch." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourette_syndrome
While it doesn't sound like you have multiple tics, or even anything that needs treated, I thought it might be nice to know that other people do things like that, too. Of course, it's possible that this is totally off base, but I just wanted to throw it out there.
I've curbed them all after realizing how ridiculous I looked, but there's no magic way. It's pure concious effort and denying yourself to do the action even if it feels good for some reason. Sometimes they come back though.... typing this thread has all the 'itches' going full-alarm right now, so its just conciously not doing them. Its tough but not hard.
A new one has started where I constantly blink, hard, and too often. Weird. That's really tough to get a hold of because you naturally blink and you cant just stop yourself.
A friend theorized it was an addictive personality. I mean I even got addicted/habit formed into chewing gum, all the time, to the point where I became addicted to Aspartame and had to wean myself off of it (even went through withdrawal, which was hilarious given it was caused by GUM). I kinda agree with him though, watched myself gamble and just have way too much fun and just had to get outta there and never go back.
In other news - I thought Tourettes was just screaming curses out randomly?
edit - woah. Just read that Tourettes link :shock:
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