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Console Confliction:
Hokutosei
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Ok, I am thinking of which system to get. I don't have interest in the Wii system (sorry Wii fans). I am between the 360 and the PS3 then obviously.
I am looking for a system with good games, lots of games, and good online capabilites.
I have played a good chunk of 360 games with my friends' and cousin's houses, and some of the PS3 ones as well. I've played games such as CoD World at War, Halo, Assassin's Creed, and such for 360. I have played Drake's, CoD Modern Warfare, and a couple other ones for PS3. Graphicaly speaking, I cannot tell that big of a difference between the two, to be honest; that or I cannot recall that big of a difference, aside from going from normal to an HDTV.
I am trying to weigh my options here, so what say you H&A, whihc system would you recommend to me?
PS- I like most genres, action, action RPG, FPS, RPG, Strategy, basically any. Some more than others, but if I were to get the 360, I would get Halo and CoD World at War, and possibly Halo Wars to scratch that strategy itch.
Thank you in advance.
I am looking for a system with good games, lots of games, and good online capabilites.
I have played a good chunk of 360 games with my friends' and cousin's houses, and some of the PS3 ones as well. I've played games such as CoD World at War, Halo, Assassin's Creed, and such for 360. I have played Drake's, CoD Modern Warfare, and a couple other ones for PS3. Graphicaly speaking, I cannot tell that big of a difference between the two, to be honest; that or I cannot recall that big of a difference, aside from going from normal to an HDTV.
I am trying to weigh my options here, so what say you H&A, whihc system would you recommend to me?
PS- I like most genres, action, action RPG, FPS, RPG, Strategy, basically any. Some more than others, but if I were to get the 360, I would get Halo and CoD World at War, and possibly Halo Wars to scratch that strategy itch.
Thank you in advance.
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plus you didn't mention any PS3 games that you would immediately get.
so get a 360.
I personally like the PS3 a little better right now but I go in phases. PS3 definitely has some really great games out right now. Killzone 2 is awesome if you like FPS. MLB '09 is hands-down the best baseball game ever, God of War III is coming...also, the built in Blu Ray player is pretty sweet if you like watching movies. You also don't have to pay to play online.
On the other side, Mass Effect 2 is coming out this year I think, I'm sure there are some other titles I'm forgetting. There's Gears of War 2...
You should get both!
-Warhawk, Killzone 2, Resistance 1 and 2 for your exclusive multiplayer shooter needs
-Folklore and Valkyria Chronicles for your slightly quirky but awesome Japanese game needs (Folklore is a fantasy noir-ish action-RPG, Valkyria is a steampunk/fantasy-ish alternate WW2 strategy shooter)
-Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction for your lighthearted platforming shooter funtimes
-LittleBigPlanet really needs no explanation
-You said you already played Drake's Fortune, so I will remind you that they are doing a sequel and it will be awesome (and isn't it supposed to come out later this year?)
-MGS4 if you've played the previous Metal Gear Solids
System wise... wireless included, controller charge cable included (no batteries required), online play is free, media streaming is dead easy, blu-ray movies are gorgeous, and also folding@home has a client for it so you can help cure horrible diseases!
On the downside is the price, and I guess your multiplayer titles depend on which console your friends have, but I will remind you that there are fairly healthy PA groups for pretty much any multiplayer PS3 game
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Forget it...
PS3 WON'T HAVE:
Halo stuff, Fable II, Gears of War, Mass Effect
Extensively used online network for many games
NetFlix
X360 WON'T HAVE:
All the games in Reznik's above post, plus the PixelJunk downloadables
Free online network
Blu-Ray (no, I don't want to hear about the add-on. There is no telling how long or how pricey that will be.)
Open filesystem (with the PS3, you can install new harddrives and quickly back things up using your comp, 360 uses a proprietary filesystem)
I am probably missing some stuff from the 360, I'm a PS3 guy myself. Also, while the 360 Jaspers should finally have cleared up hardware issues, the 360 has a history of failing and the PS3 doesn't. Last of all, look a page or two into H/A...a thread on this subject JUST wrapped up.
PSN: TheScrublet
actually the 60 gig systems are now having major issues. im talking mass system deaths like the 360 intialy saw. so if you do decide on a ps3 get a new one
Yeah, that's not really true. The vast majority of owners aren't having any problems. They just don't go on message boards and rant about how happy they are.
im talking about what i have seen personally i see way more defective ps3s and get more calls about them then i do 360s. and atleast when a 360 dies you have a good warranty not a $150 repair fee
PS3
+media server functionality is easy as pie.
+better video upscaling (dvd, streaming, .avi off a thumbdrive, whatever)
+Superior graphics and physics
+blu ray!
-fewer game titles
-less people online in any given game
-less online support in general
360
+very plug and play
+more games I want to own
+I have a cool faceplate
+great online community to draw from
-I am on my 5th 360 (Jasper should mean no more hardware failures, but that said, my ps3 is from launch day)
-fewer file types supported as a networked media player
-online gaming costs money
-no high defintion video playback.
I just did a quick google search and was unable to verify this past the occasional forum-based complaint of someone who got a bricked ps3 system. The "mass system deaths of the 360" were so pervasive that Microsoft had to writeoff a big loss and extend their warranty by years. I do know as of Feb 2008 the PS3 (and Wii) failure rate was <1% to MSoft's 33%. I can't seem to find any solid figures past that date...if you have them please link.
PSN: TheScrublet
This "good warranty" of course appeared after massive negative press and the virtual certainty of a class-action lawsuit.
PSN: TheScrublet
While true, with the limited amount of gaming I do online I have a hard time justifying going out and buying that 50 dollar 13 month card, whereas with my ps3, I don't even have to think about it and it's always available.
And, being an owner of the PS3, I'll say you'll probably get more use out of the Live subscription. I can't play WipeoutHD with anyone anymore, and to be honest LittleBigPlanet crowds are WAY down of late. (Yes there are more games, just saying it seems like Live has many more players on all games)
PSN: TheScrublet
That is actually untrue, the vid card in the PS3 is lesser than the one in 360. Physics on the other hand, completely true (and the graphics difference is as marginal as one game having slightly better textures than the other, or some better Anti Aliasing.) . I find the PS3 is a wonderful system as a media center device that you can play some games on. Also the new systems have no backward compatibility now.
From an actual gaming console standpoint, the 360 is far and away superior. It has a far better current and upcoming game lineup, better online (Even if it isn't free, it isn't expensive.) and the Xbox Arcade has a lot bigger selection of neat little games. I've personally never had a 360 fail on me, and i dont know anyone who has, and i know a fuckload of people around town here who have a 360 (Almost every guy i know, and a lot of girls i know have them as well.). 360 also supports a lot of interconnection with windows, even with Windows 7 Beta. Even can use it as a media center extender very easily, not to mention the basic 360 version sits at half the price of the ps3. There really is no reason to go ps3 unless you are a huge Sony fanboy and have delusions that the system is somehow going to spring back to life and start getting more than a small handful of exclusives.
For the PS3's favour though. God of war III.....yeah
And this is from a guy who has had both systems. I no longer have the ps3 (My ex GF stole it when we split up.)
also if you like playing games online, the ps3 has shit online in comparison to 360.
I'm no junkie with the hardware specs memorized or anything,
but in my continued experience every ps3 game I've played (even the cheapo budget titles) have demonstrated super graphics.
So when I said superior graphics, I base my opinion not on some theoretical knowledge of whats under the hood but my actual experience playing the games on both systems that range from launch titles (kameo, perfect dark, etc on 360, heavenly sword virtua fighter, on ps3) to the brand new games on both (gears 2 on 360, killzone 2, little big planet, etc on ps3.)
But again, you're totally right,
if gaming online is your thing the 360 wins hands down.
if gaming in a community of gamers is your thing the 360 wins hands down.
if playing halo is your thing, the 360 wins hands down.
However, if you're interested in a very well put together HD media device that has killers graphics on the titles that do release for it, the PS3 warrants serious consideration, I know if I had to give up my ps3 or my 360, I would choose to keep the ps3 everyday of the week.
PSN: TheScrublet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Originals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Live_Arcade_games
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That said, I don't really know if I would buy a PS3 as they are now. IIRC, a lot of the backwards compatibility was removed in newer iterations of the console, which is a real turnoff for me. Also, I'm not sure about the number of USB ports/removable media storage in the newer models. My 60 gig has 4 USB ports and slots for 3 different types of removable media, and the newer versions may not have all that.
I just had to run to the store and buy a new headset for my 360. The old one lasted about three years. I will say, as a huge 360 fanboy, that M$ is really good at sneaking additional costs onto the base 360 to make it look cheaper than it might be for you. For instance, if you need your 360 to wirelessly connect to the net, that's going to cost you an extra $100. I still prefer it as a platform, but if pricepoint is going to be one of your top concerns you should figure out what extras you'll need to buy for your 360. (And I don't really think a variance of $100 or so is actually going to make or break most people's decision between the systems. Both are very different machines, and one or the other will probably be the obvious choice once you weigh the pros and cons.)
I know someone mentioned using the PS3 as a multimedia streaming station at the core of the house. The PS3 does this much better, but you can still stream movies/music/pictures/porn from your windows-based computer to your 360, just not as well.
It was extremely expensive, to the point that even the $600 models were being sold for a loss. Initially, the hardware backwards compatibility meant they were basically selling you a PS3 with the guts of a PS2 crammed inside for good measure. Even the newer models with backwards compatibility had one of the PS2 processors. Sony had to get rid of BC to start making a profit.
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
Why did you buy a new 360? Absolutely everything is covered by the warranty. The main hardware failure is covered by a three year warranty.
Some things worth keeping in mind that are sometimes overlooked:
- Unless you find one from 2007, your PS3 is not going to have backwards compatibility with PS2 games. If you like PS2 games, this is worth keeping in mind.
- If you're relying on a wireless router for the internet, most (not all, but the large majority) of PS3s have wireless receivers built-in. Xbox 360s do not have this, so you'll need to do it by cable (or some alternative).
- All Xbox 360s share the same backwards compatibility, on the off-chance that you'll be playing Xbox games.
- In terms of multi-platform games, the Xbox 360 seems to usually (not always, but by a large margin) get the better end of the deal in terms of additional content. GTAIV, Fallout 3, Tomb Raider Underworld, etc., etc.--a lot of DLC is Xbox 360-only. I'm not a GTAIV fan, but those new episodes are not coming to PS3, it seems.
Personally, I would go with the Xbox 360--I find the library is a bit more varied in terms of genres and is overall notably larger. Xbox Live Gold DOES cost money ($8 a month, or $3 if you buy a card off Amazon), but then again, almost everything worthwhile on PSN also costs money, so you're going to be spending anyway...
However, you'd probably not do wrong picking up the same console as your friends. You didn't seem to have games steering you either way, so go with the social aspect. The differences between PSN and XBL are especially apparent in the less popular games (rather than the big-budget ones), where you'll find a small population on XBL and no-one on PSN (and here I'm thinking of TimeShift and other less famous titles). Party chat is also nice (letting you listen to your party, and your party only, on voicechat).
the 360 has more exclusives, and the multi-platform releases either are delayed on the ps3, or actually have issues that are not found on the 360 (oblivion, fallout, GTA4 all had this)
that said, the ps3 is my main media player... gotta love Netflix + BluRay
Thanks for the lists. The main thing I'm looking for are the common games out of XBL_Arcade. You ask people what to buy off PSN you're going to hear the same stuff mostly...what are those titles for XBL? Not trying to derail here either this would help choose between X360 and PS3.
PSN: TheScrublet
I think I might be going with an XBOX 360 due to the fact that my cousin, my cousin's sister's boyfriend who we game with, and several other people I know all have the 360; not as many have the PS3.
Online play will probably be a big factor for me, such as playing Halo, CoD World at War, and the like online to have some good, old fashioned FPS PvP action to get me that fix. Not to mention other games online.
Thanks again.
"It is not enough that I succeed, all other must fail." -Genghis Khan