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[The Big Idea] Pitch your best project

robotsunshinerobotsunshine regular
edited April 2009 in Critical Failures
The BIG IDEA
A Cheapass Game

Everyone's a venture capitalist, trying to make money off of new products created by each player. Pitch your products, invest in your own or other players' ideas, and hopefully turn a profit.


Game Objective and Flow

Each turn is divided into four phases: Seed, Venture, Mezzanine, and Offering, or Invention, Secret, Open, and IPO, in more lay language. In the Seed (Invention) Phase, you will create (and perhaps invest in) new products, and in Venture (Secret), you will make secret investments. In Mezzanine (Open), you may invest in any product, and in Offering (IPO), you will see if your investments pay out. Once a number of turns equal to the number of players has passed, then the game ends and the player with the most money wins.


Game Setup and Components
Each player starts out with five investment chips, $10 in cash, and three cards each from the nouns and adjectives card piles.
Investment Chips represent investment capital, other peoples' money, that will be used to fund new products. The number of chips you may invest is limited, but when a product pays out, they are returned to your supply and may be re-invested.
Cash represents your own money, which is used to invest in products in the Mezzanine phase, and earned when a product pays out in the Offering phase. The player with the most cash at the end of the game wins.
Nouns and Adjectives are combined to create new products. Each product can be made up of any number of nouns or adjectives, including multiples. For example, Flying Car, Herbal Gadget Sauce, or Disposable Electric Love Robot are all potential products. Note that adjectives do not necessarily have to be used as adjectives, and neither do nouns have to necessarily be used as nouns. The flavortext on each card may be safely ignored or used as inspiration.

There are also a number of foreign investor chips that are added when a product does not pay out during the Offering phase, and help a product to get paid out, but are ignored when it comes to transferral of cash.


Seed Phase (Invention)

Each player invents a product by combining noun and adjective cards, and PMing the host the new product. Once all products are submitted, then the lead player reveals their product and pitches the idea to the other players. (It must be the same as the one they submitted to the host.) After the lead player reveals and describes their product, they may choose to invest in it, placing one of their own investment chips on it, or choose not to invest, either leaving the product out for others to potentially invest in, or discarding the product completely. Afterwards, the next player reveals, pitches, and invests, until all players have revealed their products. There is no investing in other players' products at this time, but once everyone has made their pitches, the game moves on to the...


Venture Phase (Secret)

Each player now has a chance to invest in one new product introduced in the previous phase. PM the host the product you wish to invest one investment chip in or the decision to decline investing. You may not invest in your own product at this time. Once all investments are submitted, they are revealed simultaneously. The player that created the most popularly-invested product earns a $1 Good Idea Bonus. If there is a tie for most popular product, no bonus is distributed.


Mezzanine Phase (Open)

Each player now has a chance to further invest in one more product, both new products and old products left over from the previous round, and including ones own product. Because more information is available, it costs cash to invest in this phase. To invest in a product, you must pay each player $1 for every chip they already have on the product (ignoring the presence of foreign investor chips). Actions are taken in order, starting with the lead player, and at most one investment chip may be placed by each player.


Offering Phase (IPO)
All products are now set up for sale in an IPO (Initial Public Offering). A 6-sided die is rolled for each product: if the roll value is equal to or less than the number of chips on the product, the IPO succeeds; otherwise, it fails. In a success, each chip pays out cash equal to the value of the die roll. A player with multiple shares, then, will earn a higher multiple of the payout. The investment chips on the product are returned to their owners, and the product is removed from the game. In a failure, the product and investment chips remain in the game, and a single foreign investor chip will be added to the product. It will be easier for the product to pay out on the next round, but there are otherwise no other effects.


End of Turn and Game

At the end of the Offering Phase, all players are allowed to discard as many noun and adjective cards as they wish before drawing back up to three of each. (The decks will be reshuffled if they run out.) Then the role of lead player passes to the next player. Once all players have acted as lead players, then the game is over and the player with the most amount of cash is the winner.

awesome man award: MrBlarney

Anyone wanting to play can give a big ol' colorful !sign up here. Need 3-6 players!

Players
1. Utsanomiko
2. Rend
3. lonelyahava
4. enlightenedbum
5. manaleak34
6. Daius

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  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This sounds simple and fun. I think I'll try this.

    !Sign!

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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Why not? This sounds interesting.

    Rend on
  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Me against Rend in a war of words?

    oh, how perfect. How can I say no

    ahava on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Let's see how this works

    enlightenedbum on
    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • manaleak34manaleak34 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    !Entrepreneur Up

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  • DaiusDaius Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    !Gonna have to try this.

    I played a game like this once with some people, and it didn't have a name. Then someone came up with the concept of a "Fresh Metal Waffle Battle". It was known as that ever since.

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  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    !They call me mellow signup

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  • robotsunshinerobotsunshine regular
    edited March 2009
    sorry, goosey - but this wil be a short game, so you're first in line for Round Two!

    We'll start tomorrow. I'll PM everyone their hand. Turn order is according to sign up order up there, 'cause it really doesn't matter. After each pitch (act in character as an inventor / investor when you post!), everyone posts that they want to invest, or don't want to invest. No investments means it's scrapped. Then, everyone posts in Spoiler tags who they're voting for once everyone has pitched. When everyone's done that, we reveal and that person gets the bonus. Lastly, everyone picks a product to invest in and pays all of its investors $1. After that, I'll roll dice and we get the result, and then we repeat the entire process.

    Everyone starts with $10. Please keep track of your own money! Stay tuned for your hands.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    !Signup for round two. If that's allowed. ;-)

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    sorry, goosey - but this wil be a short game, so you're first in line for Round Two!

    We'll start tomorrow. I'll PM everyone their hand. Turn order is according to sign up order up there, 'cause it really doesn't matter. After each pitch (act in character as an inventor / investor when you post!), everyone posts that they want to invest, or don't want to invest. No investments means it's scrapped. Then, everyone posts in Spoiler tags who they're voting for once everyone has pitched. When everyone's done that, we reveal and that person gets the bonus. Lastly, everyone picks a product to invest in and pays all of its investors $1. After that, I'll roll dice and we get the result, and then we repeat the entire process.

    Everyone starts with $10. Please keep track of your own money! Stay tuned for your hands.

    The way I read the rules at Board Game Geek if the roll fails a "foreign investor" puts a chip in to make it more likely to be profitable in the future.

    EDIT: Also you automatically get one of your own investment chips on the product you pitch instead of it being scrapped.

    enlightenedbum on
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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Sign up for round 2!!!

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  • ZellpherZellpher Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Round 2 NEEDS me

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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm pretty excited about this.

    Rend on
  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    REEENNNNDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you and I.

    We have a date with destiny and the Dragon!

    ahava on
  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If you don't have an official card list, I do own a copy of the game and should not have much trouble at all typing it all up into a spreadsheet or text file for you. You might want to do some of the voting and investing via PM, though. Let me look over the rules again, and I'll see if I can give any suggestions for online play. I don't know if I'll have the time to run a game for the people who did not make the first one, though - I'm scheduled to run a Phalla game in a couple weeks and I don't want to take too much time away from planning and then hosting. We'll see.

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  • robotsunshinerobotsunshine regular
    edited March 2009
    sorry, goosey - but this wil be a short game, so you're first in line for Round Two!

    We'll start tomorrow. I'll PM everyone their hand. Turn order is according to sign up order up there, 'cause it really doesn't matter. After each pitch (act in character as an inventor / investor when you post!), everyone posts that they want to invest, or don't want to invest. No investments means it's scrapped. Then, everyone posts in Spoiler tags who they're voting for once everyone has pitched. When everyone's done that, we reveal and that person gets the bonus. Lastly, everyone picks a product to invest in and pays all of its investors $1. After that, I'll roll dice and we get the result, and then we repeat the entire process.

    Everyone starts with $10. Please keep track of your own money! Stay tuned for your hands.

    The way I read the rules at Board Game Geek if the roll fails a "foreign investor" puts a chip in to make it more likely to be profitable in the future.

    EDIT: Also you automatically get one of your own investment chips on the product you pitch instead of it being scrapped.

    Aware of the first, not of the second. Makes more sense, really.

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  • robotsunshinerobotsunshine regular
    edited March 2009
    MrBlarney wrote: »
    If you don't have an official card list, I do own a copy of the game and should not have much trouble at all typing it all up into a spreadsheet or text file for you. You might want to do some of the voting and investing via PM, though. Let me look over the rules again, and I'll see if I can give any suggestions for online play. I don't know if I'll have the time to run a game for the people who did not make the first one, though - I'm scheduled to run a Phalla game in a couple weeks and I don't want to take too much time away from planning and then hosting. We'll see.

    you are majorly cool, and i will give you an honorary "awesome man" credit in the OP for such a service

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Alright, card list has been completed. Because I'm bored, here's an attempt at an OP.

    The BIG IDEA
    A Cheapass Game

    Everyone's a venture capitalist, trying to make money off of new products created by each player. Pitch your products, invest in your own or other players' ideas, and hopefully turn a profit.


    Game Objective and Flow
    Each turn is divided into four phases: Seed, Venture, Mezzanine, and Offering, or Invention, Secret, Open, and IPO, in more lay language. In the Seed (Invention) Phase, you will create (and perhaps invest in) new products, and in Venture (Secret), you will make secret investments. In Mezzanine (Open), you may invest in any product, and in Offering (IPO), you will see if your investments pay out. Once a number of turns equal to the number of players has passed, then the game ends and the player with the most money wins.


    Game Setup and Components
    Each player starts out with five investment chips, $10 in cash, and three cards each from the nouns and adjectives card piles.
    Investment Chips represent investment capital, other peoples' money, that will be used to fund new products. The number of chips you may invest is limited, but when a product pays out, they are returned to your supply and may be re-invested.
    Cash represents your own money, which is used to invest in products in the Mezzanine phase, and earned when a product pays out in the Offering phase. The player with the most cash at the end of the game wins.
    Nouns and Adjectives are combined to create new products. Each product can be made up of any number of nouns or adjectives, including multiples. For example, Flying Car, Herbal Gadget Sauce, or Disposable Electric Love Robot are all potential products. Note that adjectives do not necessarily have to be used as adjectives, and neither do nouns have to necessarily be used as nouns. The flavortext on each card may be safely ignored or used as inspiration.

    There are also a number of foreign investor chips that are added when a product does not pay out during the Offering phase, and help a product to get paid out, but are ignored when it comes to transferral of cash.


    Seed Phase (Invention)
    Each player invents a product by combining noun and adjective cards, and PMing the host the new product. Once all products are submitted, then the lead player reveals their product and pitches the idea to the other players. (It must be the same as the one they submitted to the host.) After the lead player reveals and describes their product, they may choose to invest in it, placing one of their own investment chips on it, or choose not to invest, either leaving the product out for others to potentially invest in, or discarding the product completely. Afterwards, the next player reveals, pitches, and invests, until all players have revealed their products. There is no investing in other players' products at this time, but once everyone has made their pitches, the game moves on to the...


    Venture Phase (Secret)
    Each player now has a chance to invest in one new product introduced in the previous phase. PM the host the product you wish to invest one investment chip in or the decision to decline investing. You may not invest in your own product at this time. Once all investments are submitted, they are revealed simultaneously. The player that created the most popularly-invested product earns a $1 Good Idea Bonus. If there is a tie for most popular product, no bonus is distributed.


    Mezzanine Phase (Open)
    Each player now has a chance to further invest in one more product, both new products and old products left over from the previous round, and including ones own product. Because more information is available, it costs cash to invest in this phase. To invest in a product, you must pay each player $1 for every chip they already have on the product (ignoring the presence of foreign investor chips). Actions are taken in order, starting with the lead player, and at most one investment chip may be placed by each player.


    Offering Phase (IPO)
    All products are now set up for sale in an IPO (Initial Public Offering). A 6-sided die is rolled for each product: if the roll value is equal to or less than the number of chips on the product, the IPO succeeds; otherwise, it fails. In a success, each chip pays out cash equal to the value of the die roll. A player with multiple shares, then, will earn a higher multiple of the payout. The investment chips on the product are returned to their owners, and the product is removed from the game. In a failure, the product and investment chips remain in the game, and a single foreign investor chip will be added to the product. It will be easier for the product to pay out on the next round, but there are otherwise no other effects.


    End of Turn and Game
    At the end of the Offering Phase, all players are allowed to discard as many noun and adjective cards as they wish before drawing back up to three of each. (The decks will be reshuffled if they run out.) Then the role of lead player passes to the next player. Once all players have acted as lead players, then the game is over and the player with the most amount of cash is the winner.


    ... I think I went a little overboard with the coloring.

    You could potentially change the rules a bit by having people PM pitches along with their products and revealing them all simultaneously, though that changes the dynamic a bit.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I got a PM so apparently we've started! And it needs to be back on the first page.

    enlightenedbum on
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  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Well I'm not going to comment on the words I got except that I'll need some time to think about which ones to use and how to combine them.

    Utsanomiko on
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I had a clear winner and am excited about my product.

    enlightenedbum on
    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    as am I.


    hmmmm

    when can I start promoting?

    ahava on
  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I have finally decided how to arrange my cards to make product.

    I only have one fear: Monopolies are illegal.

    Rend on
  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Hmm... now, the rules state that products must be 'locked in' before they are promoted, but for the purposes of keeping things moving in a forum game, I wonder if it would be better to let everyone promote in turn once they are ready? Sure, people later in the sequence can adjust their products based on what they've seen previous, but I wonder how much that will change.

    Also, I propose a standardized format for submitting product pitches:


    Product Name - Tagline

    Description


    After a product has been revealed and pitched, once the creator has decided to invest, leave out the product, or remove the product (in bold cyan?), then the next person makes their pitch. I hope it doesn't seem that I'm being too nosy, just trying to help!

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'd be fine with that. Let's get this game moving. Pitch something Utsanomiko!

    enlightenedbum on
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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    C'mon c'mon c'mon..

    ahava on
  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Ok, here goes:

    Permanent Phone Book

    The Permanent Phone Book is to annual phone books as the GPS is to paper road maps. This device is a portable electronic telephone directory, keeping an up-to-date record (via wireless downloads) of personal and business listings, which can be searched and sorted by name, phone number, service type, address, etc. Bluetooth functionality to automatically dial and store numbers with your mobile phone. You'll never need to bother with bulky, outdated phone books again.

    EDIT: That would be 'GPS'

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Are you investing in your own product?

    enlightenedbum on
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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    1. I think we should wait for robotsunshine to continue with the pitches.
    2. I think everyone pitches before anyone invests

    Rend on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Rend wrote: »
    1. I think we should wait for robotsunshine to continue with the pitches.
    2. I think everyone pitches before anyone invests

    As I understand it when you pitch you can invest in your own product, then once everyone has pitched we each get to invest in a product that is not ours.

    enlightenedbum on
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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Ah, rereading: You are correct sir.

    Rend on
  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Utsanomiko wrote: »
    Nah, I expect my chances will be better if I see the other five inventions.

    As I understand it you can invest in both your own product and one of the other five. Blarney/sunshine, am I correct?

    enlightenedbum on
    The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    It looks like you can invest in your own while you reveal, then secretly invest in somebody else's in the next phase, and then openly invest money in inventions.

    So no, I'll stick with my investment tokens and see what comes up later.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Ummm so a random OOG question...

    Is there a word limit on our pitches?

    ahava on
  • RendRend Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    There darned well better not be.

    Rend on
  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I'm really hoping there's not....

    ahava on
  • DaiusDaius Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Rend, your pitch better not have Graphs and Pie Charts all over the place.

    Daius on
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Daius wrote: »
    Rend, your pitch better not have Graphs and Pie Charts all over the place.

    That would sort of raise the bar for the rest of us.

    enlightenedbum on
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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Anyway, Rend is next up so if you want to wait until our host comes back to pitch, that's your option.

    enlightenedbum on
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  • UtsanomikoUtsanomiko Bros before Does Rollin' in the thlayRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I like to keep it short and to the point.

    I'd vote for a limit between 'barely sufficient' and 'almost insufferable'.

    EDIT: That was meant in jest guys I'm sorry come back.

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