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Battlestar Galactica AND Caprica *SPOILERS* - It's Over! YEAAAAHHHHH
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No, no it wasn't.
Which is ambigious, because meat and vegetables are only two of the food groups. I don't know many people who live off only meat and vegetables.
Seriously man, you're grasping for straws like a moron. Obviously when they go buy meat, the also go and buy dairy and other shit. Do you want a future career in Fox News or something? Christ this is a genuine republican we're dealing with here.
I really just think it is fair to say the finale has pretty significant suspension of disbelief problems. I don't personally think they're insurmountable and I think they might be worth it, but they're definitely there.
Really, the show as a whole has this problem, because so much of it is tied up in magic and miracles in a pretty clumsy sort of way. But this is, for me at least, one of those "like it for its virtues, love it for its flaws" sort of thing- even stuff like "Black Market" is just...endearing, at this point. Flawed as the show is, I don't think I've ever seen anything like it or will again, and the finale has left me with a profound sense of closure. The story is so unbelievably, completely finished and the whole thing stands together so well that I'll still love it despite the faults.
Okay fine. They make their own bread, but purchase flour. They don't drink much milk at all. They do a lot of preserving.
I'm not saying my parents are living the lives the Colonials will have to live in Earth. I'm saying that even in the current technological society, there are possibilities beyond those you seem to think exist. The Colonials will be a long way from making their own bread, but they'll get there.
Well excuse me for asking for clarification.
I mean, c'mon...
How 'bout Starbuck? How is she the Harbinger of Death? I got the idea she's a positive force on the colonials/good skinjobs, seeing as how she sent them to a decent planet to begin anew.
The colonials died thanks to her. Quite simple, really.
The hair man, the hair
The main part isn't even the harbinger of death thing--you could write that off as being metaphorical, death of the old life, birth of the new--the part that bothers me is "she will lead them all to their doom". I don't get what that was supposed to refer to at all. Any thoughts on whether they resolved it?
I think the "they" in that "their" is the Earth Cylons. Starbuck led them to the place of their doom so the Colonials could see it and learn.
God basically led the Fleet on a magical mystery tour of 3 genocides- the 12 Colonies, Kobol, and then to Earth, all so when they got to Earth 2: Electric Boogaloo they'd be like "Hey lets not do this again."
God is a dick.
As for what Starbuck was, she was Space Jesus. She died, she was reborn 3 months later rather than 3 days, and when she was done she ascended into heaven. Straight up, full stop, Space Jesus.
They are pretty much doomed when they maroon themselves on Earth.
Makes a kind of sense, I guess. They were definitely using it as misdirection, though.
:^:
She did put the loop to death, this is true.
Yeah. But all the mystical stuff kind of turned out to be lame, honestly.
Or is it Jimi Hendrix?
Doom as in the traditional (*sigh* Tolkien-esque) sense of a choice?
I kinda took the harbringer of death as meaning she leads them to the end of the human and cylon races. Instead of floating around space trying to find a new planet, or having the happy ending of peace between the two races and they go thier seperate ways with new home planets and start anew they instead end up being taken to a new earth where humans and cylons seperate races effectively come to an end. As they begin breeding with the local human populous creating the new genetic race the pure line of humans and cylons both are destroyed and the new species is created.
She may not have have hit a button and nuked them all, but on the other hand had everything not gone to hell in the CIC and her jump them to new earth, both humans and cylons would have taken thier rag tag survivors and started fresh somewhere as they currently were, with new cities and pure blood lines, and human and cylon species would have gone on.
Just, goddamn.
I'm pretty sure I'll watch Caprica just so I can keep hearing Bear McCreary. Even if it is the suckiest thing that ever sucked, I'll watch just to listen.
I'd suggest going to bear's blog and helping vote for what songs should be included. After all, we might not be able to convince them to do a double-disk...
But GOD do I want one. Or like a full-on box set.
Also, I maintain that I will be buying this complete thing on Blu-ray as soon as I can, in one set. My DVD set will be for getting others into the show at that point. But if I can get all of BSG, including Razor and The Plan, in one box... Oh GOD yes.
This logic is making me want to watch Sarah Connor Chronicles for the record.
There are three reasons for me to get a blu-ray player.
1. A complete BSG box set.
2. Alien
3. Aliens
Once all three exist I will consider it.
And there's a chance not all the songs will be included on the soundtrack? To hell with that!
20 episodes of music, man! All the variations of the various themes won't be included, obviously.
To make matters worse at least one episode of this season was devoted entirely to music. So... Yeah.
Like using the "gift shop" to give LOS to the raptors so they could jump safely, and in the process completely fucking DESTROYING the launch nacelle.
Jimi Hendrix is God and Bob Dylan is His prophet.
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I'm going to drag this up again. The existence of a mitochondrial Eve in no way implies that all other lines are removed. Rather, it means that there exists only one unbroken matriline. Other descendents can be present in the resultant population, as demonstrated:
Here, fb and mb have mtDNA from eve, despite being descendents of both eve and not.
You're not even close to right. First you are not farming from scratch. You got not only seeds, but modern seeds to start your garden from. You are using modern tools, not something you have to craft yourself. You didn't have to clear out indigent lifeforms (both animal and plantlife) because its in your backyard. You don't have to keep animals that could crush you or eat you away. Its not comparable in the slightest.
And where exactly do they get these seeds? They'd have to find the crops from the native, non-cultivated plant life. It would provide far lower yields than modern agriculture and would be difficult under the best of conditions.
Second, exactly how big is your garden? With modern high-yield crops you need at least 1.2 acres of cultivated land per person to maintain dietary standards if you include livestock or .2 acres/person if you only include vegetarian food sources. With the quality of crops available 150,000 years ago it would not only be more difficult to raise but produce lower yields and fewer seeds. From wiki And that's a comparison between the last 100 years, not with a prehistorical native non-cultivated plant form.
And its not just that they'd have these difficulties. Its that these difficulties would have been painfully obvious to everyone there and no one apparently said boo. Tens of thousands of people just went "Oh Ok we're going to go live in little settlements like a trumped up homo erectus tribe? Really? I don't have any idea how to do that and we have these massive spaceships that carried us across the cosmos for years with enough water filtration systems and food reprocessing capabilities to keep us alive on practically no new organic matter that we could bring down to form the basis of a new city but we're going to just go and live off the lands? Sound plan, lets do it without any debate. I'm sure the chance that it'll avoid this cycle that I have never heard of before is worth the relatively miserable and short life for me and my children that I probably will never have now."
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Because if so I probably won't read that shit.
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Oh you'll read it. You'll read it and like it bitch. That was a page of hard researched wikipedia bullcrap and peoples grandparents lives.
LONG LIVE THE FARMERS!
But she just arrived, so that makes even less sense.