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legalize it! ALL OF IT, apparently.
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Er, what? We can't tell if anyone was "saved," since the changes over time could be accounted for simply by having the bottom 30% drop out of the sample.
I'm so pleased to have your expert opinion! The personal testimonial of a person apparently trying to get others to validate his decisions is certainly medically significant, but I'll stick with the DSM-IV for now. In any case, I have a long list of reasons for not doing acid that come way in front of fear of addiction.
You'll notice I specifically said that I'm aware it's illogical, and I would not base law or policy on it.
It's just a feeling.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Look I'm just saying that to call LSD and mushrooms addictive simply because they are enjoyable belies a complete lack of knowledge of either substance. To suggest that there is even such a thing as LSD addiction except in the extremely rare cases, which mostly involve underlying mental illness to begin with, is retarded.
By the way, my wife's uncle was a meth junkie, did the crap for 5 years. He stopped cold turkey, went into rehab for 3 months, stayed in a halfway house for 6 months and was on his own in a fully functional adult capacity (apart from his meetings) in less than a year from his initial rehab stay. I realize not everybody can make such a comeback but don't act like it isn't possible.
EDIT: By the way, he had no marketable skills either. He was, for all intents and purposes, a bum. The job he got upon his rehab exit was literally fry guy for $6/hr.
I know, but "Wow, that paste looks tasty." is also a feeling. I disagree strongly with both. I hate all the bs that goes along with drugs just because they are illegal. If it's slightly less of a thrill to some people, then they are doing drugs for different reasons than myself.
And as for low-income housing, in many areas there's a severe shortage. In Vancouver, for example, there is literally nowhere for people like these to go because virtually every new dwelling being built today is either a million-dollar condo or is so far out in the suburbs that you have to drive for 45 minutes to get to your job. And in the latter case, transit is usually out of the question because some moronic city planner decided to make the place look like Levittown, with endless cul-de-sacs and winding, wiggly streets that don't go anywhere.
But that's a whole other conversation.
People with a proclivity to addiction can get hooked on Marijuana, Shrooms, LSD, or even Sex.
But said people won't die if cut off.
Not an argument, I just think we have more of a similar opinion on this than the last few posts made it out to be.
And I definitely don't want to be misconstrued by a passing reader into thinking that my opinion is welfare = bum.
Are you a clinician? Some kind of mental health professional? Or are you leafing through a surgical text thinking you know how to cut a guy open?
sex and marijuana are a lot easier to get addicted to than shrooms or LSD.
Willie Nelson once said of parenting that if his children ever asked to try weed he'd tell them no, straight up.
If they have to ask, he reasons, they're not really ready. They don't get to do it unless they want to enough to sneak around me.
Working under the assumption that none of these are physically addictive this really doesn't make any sense.
LSD is generally pleasurable for most people. Shoving peanut butter up your nose? Not so much.
Rule 36.
LSD isn't really generally pleasurable. It can be made pleasurable. But as my alma mater was more than happy to test out, when given to random people in their coffee the reactions were mostly unpleasant.
I was under the impression that very high usage of marijuana, ie using a bong daily could result in withdrawal symptoms. Also sex I would presume is addictive like jogging can be, addiction to the endorphin release.
Did he tell anyone beforehand?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Hypothetically? Sure, it's remotely possible for marijuana to cause withdrawal symptoms. But you'd have to have an incredibly low body fat percentage, and be an extremely heavy user.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It does if you have tripped before.
If the president had any real power, he'd be able to live wherever the fuck he wanted.
That sex is more addictive than LSD? Conjecture.
I'm sure when we're all candy-flipping at raves at 1 in the morning it's because we're more interested in a science experiment and it has nothing to do with pleasure.
If you're an addict; someone prone to become addicted to something, not necessarily someone addicted to something then LOTS of things can be addictive, LSD included.
HAHAHA holy shit. You couldn't be more wrong, jesus christ.
To an addict? You're ignorant.
So your point is that people with the right mindset can become addicted to things that are not of themselves physically addictive?
Even conceding that point, how does that relate to drug policy? Why don't we then ban peanut butter? Eating peanut butter is a pleasurable experience; I could become addicted to it in the same way that your hypothetical LSD addict gets off on tripping.
Because both of them have been fucking impossible to find in the past few years.
A big argument is that many drugs are physically addcitive; many posters have pointed out that LSD is not, and Kevin Nash's response was "people with addictive personalities can become addicted to things which are not physically addictive." By which argument we should ban WoW.
I lol'd.
And on whether sex is more addictive than LSD...yes, it is. But sex is written into our code, so it's not really a valid comparison.
Try LSD and you'll understand why it's not addictive. It's a lot like climbing a really, really high tree. You exhaust yourself, accumulate cuts and scratches, see things from a new perspective, and finally climb down. You might want to reflect on it, look up and admire it...you're probably in a great mood. But the last thing you want to do is try it again. This is especially true with mushrooms, which have the most heavenly comedown of anything I've ever had...also followed by absolutely no desire to try them again for a while. Hardcore shroomers say that once a month is the most you can do and still have trips worth a damn.
Oh, yeah, and they're also not chemically addictive, unlike some antidepressants (not SSRIs), ritalin, codeine, coffee, tobacco, alcohol...ahh whatever, this has been said.
No. sex addiction comes down to self medication. I don't know how you could possibly do this with LSD. Most people don't really understand what sex addicts do, because it really isn't cool at all.