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Is he gay? Is he into me?

Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
edited March 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'll spare the long-winded details and just get right into it, because I'm sure you've all had enough of really long explanations of stuff.

I've got this mate. I've known him for about 6 or 7 years now, and throughout that entire period of time he's never shown any outward signss of being gay or even bi. Like, at all. Nothing. No obvious clues.

But there's some stuff that's been going on recently that makes me doubt it. I'll start with the stuff that doesn't really indicate that he's either gay or that he likes me.

- He's started talking to me on MSN More. Now we talk on MSN a lot. Always have. But recently it seems that every time I sign on he's the first one to talk to me, whereas before it was just occasional small-talk when he didn't have anything to do.

- He's been taking a lot of opportunities recently to be shirtless around me. Whenever it's me, him, and all our other mates he doesnt, but quite often if it's just me and him hanging out together he will, at some point, take his shirt off.

And now we get to the much more obvious stuff:

- His internet history has quite a lot of gay porn sites on it. now don't get me wrong, I don't make a regular thing of checking my mate's history, but he went to the loo and i was just sat there and I'd always wondered what the hell he got up to that meant he barely ever left his computer, so I checked. And about 70% (at a rough guess) of the sites he'd visited in the past 24 hours of me checking were of the homosexually pornographic persuasion.

- Okay, this one's gonna tip the scales in my opinion. Me and my mates often make unbelievably stupid and ridiculous bets with one another over irrelevant things (classic example is Darry and Jase once seeing who could fit as many Rich Tea biscuits into their mouths and the loser had to buy the winner 3 cactuses). Anyway, a few months ago Gavin and I were on our own round his place, and he made this bet over who could watch porn the longest before getting a boner. It's the sort of bet that's too stupid to turn down, plus I'm a royal moron, so I agreed. I should have backed out when I heard the wager too. Loser had to suck the winner's dick.

Now in our history of idiotic wagers, sex stuff has never come up before. So this was a shock to say the least. The bigger shock was that I agreed, and subsequently lost, so I had to "fulfill my end of the bargain", which I did. About a week later, he made the same wager over a game of pool, so I agreed and lost again.

The blowjob wagers do seem to suggest he is gay, or maybe just bi, because I don't know of many straight guys that'd make a bet that would involve another guy sucking them off. And the gay porn on his history is also a very suspicious thing.

Also I should explain this guy does have a lot of random one-night-stands with random skanks he finds at bars or parties or street corners, or wherever else he looks for them. Now it might just be that he likes sleeping with a different chick every night as I've got this bit totally wrong but it seems like a textbook example of overcompensating for his possible homosexuality.


Summary: A friend likes being partially naked around me, looks at gay porn on a frequent basis, sleeps around and has set me up to give him a blowjob twice. Is he gay and does he like me?

I should explain before someone responds with ("why did u suck him off just cause u lost a childish bet?") that I am both gay, and a man of my word. Hell I bought my mate Reggie a set of curtains because he could spit further than me for god sake!

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    you're imagining things

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  • zenpotatozenpotato Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    So, he knows you're gay, looks at gay porn, and has asked you to give him a blowjob twice?

    I think you're over-thinking things here.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    zenpotato wrote: »
    So, he knows you're gay, looks at gay porn, and has asked you to give him a blowjob twice?

    I think you're over-thinking things here.
    Yeah it seems obvious when you say it, but he's proven over the years to be a difficult person to understand

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    He's testing the waters. The fact that he's not 'out', but knows you're gay, and you're good friends, means you've sort of become his go-to guy. Basically you're a safe person to experiment with while he figures it out.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay.

    Or bi.

    The fact that after looking at gay porn and getting one blowjob he still wanted another blowjob says, "well past experimenting" to me.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Maybe you should try actually WINNING one of these bets and seeing if he returns the favor.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    admanb wrote: »
    Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay.

    Or bi.

    The fact that after looking at gay porn and getting one blowjob he still wanted another blowjob says, "well past experimenting" to me.
    I aint ruling out the possibility that he just wanted another blowjob and since I'm gay and have already done it before he might as well have gotten me to do it.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    (classic example is Darry and Jase once seeing who could fit as many Rich Tea biscuits into their mouths and the loser had to buy the winner 3 cactuses)

    That's incredible.

    What kind of porn were you watching? If you, a gay man, was aroused before he was, a supposedly straight man, while watching straight pornography, that's what I would classify as extremely interesting.

    The fact that you've sucked him off twice might even be making him think you like him. That's the kind of thing that people who like each other do.

    Is there anything that would stop you from asking him his orientation?

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    (classic example is Darry and Jase once seeing who could fit as many Rich Tea biscuits into their mouths and the loser had to buy the winner 3 cactuses)

    That's incredible.

    What kind of porn were you watching? If you, a gay man, was aroused before he was, a supposedly straight man, while watching straight pornography, that's what I would classify as extremely interesting.

    The fact that you've sucked him off twice might even be making him think you like him. That's the kind of thing that people who like each other do.

    Is there anything that would stop you from asking him his orientation?
    I know it's incredible. It's just what we do. We're all morons that are motivated purely by stupidity.

    It was straight porn, but I really dunno why I got turned-on before he did. I think maybe it wasn't so much the porn itself as it was watching it with him.

    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do. Besides it wouldn't be so bad if he thought I did like him. Cause I kinda do. A little bit.

    And the thing that would stop me asking his orientation is the slim possibility of getting my ass handed to me.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do. Besides it wouldn't be so bad if he thought I did like him. Cause I kinda do. A little bit.

    And the thing that would stop me asking his orientation is the slim possibility of getting my ass handed to me.

    Man, if he wasn't interested he wouldn't have given those terms of the bet. No matter what happens in that bet, you are going to engage in a gay sex act together. It's something he wanted to happen.

    If you like him as well then the next step seems obvious to me.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You've already said he has no problem picking up a girl whenever he's in the mood. If he just felt like getting blown, he wouldn't have to go through making a bet with you.

    The fact that he, with no provocation, made a bet that would involve either you blowing him or him blowing you means he wants one of those two things to happen, but is too scared/nervous to flat out ask it. So he uses your group of friends' well-known habit of making weird bets with weird payoffs to get himself in that situation.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do. Besides it wouldn't be so bad if he thought I did like him. Cause I kinda do. A little bit.

    And the thing that would stop me asking his orientation is the slim possibility of getting my ass handed to me.

    Man, if he wasn't interested he wouldn't have given those terms of the bet. No matter what happens in that bet, you are going to engage in a gay sex act together. It's something he wanted to happen.

    If you like him as well then the next step seems obvious to me.
    Or he just needed to get his rocks off and knew he was going to win such a bet.

    And the next stage is obvious but the aforementioned "getting my ass handed to me" scenario is putting me off pursuing that stage of action.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    A guy does not make a bet with another guy that involves dick sucking unless said guy is ok with sucking dick. It doesn't happen. Ever.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Unless he knew he would win and just wanted a blowjob.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    No. Doesn't happen. Don't care how bad a guy wants a blowjob, he doesn't ask another guy for one unless he wants one from a guy.

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  • TalkcTalkc Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I dont know of many straight guys that want their dick sucked by a guy.

    Just throwin that out there.

    Also... that bet... has to be the ultimate put up or shut up bet i have ever heard of. "If you lose, suck my cock.." Wow.

    Just.. wow.

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Talkc wrote: »
    I dont know of many straight guys that want their dick sucked by a guy.

    Just throwin that out there.

    Also... that bet... has to be the ultimate put up or shut up bet i have ever heard of. "If you lose, suck my cock.." Wow.

    Just.. wow.

    "wow" perfectly sums it up, yeah. I know that's what I said when he threw down that gauntlet.

    I've heard some flooring bets in my days, but that one just made me so that if I was a cartoon my jaw would have broken the floorboards.

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  • SpawnbrokerSpawnbroker Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    No. Doesn't happen. Don't care how bad a guy wants a blowjob, he doesn't ask another guy for one unless he wants one from a guy.

    Agreed. He is gay or bi. There is NO WAY a straight guy would make that bet, he would be too freaked out, even by a gay guy sucking his dick.

    Maybe I'm projecting here, that is also a possibility.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If I were you, the fact that your friend seems to sleep around alot but still looks at gay porn and wants you to give him bj's suggests either one of two things a) he just loves to do it with anyone and everyone or b) he's trying to cover up actually being gay. There's a guy I know at college who even his closets friends are certain he's gay but he has sex with girls presumably to throw people off the idea that he's gay.

    I'd say wait and see what happens. If he doesn't start to let on more that he's actually interested in you maybe bring it up gently when it's just the two of you.

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    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Why are you people posting advice? Either the OP is fucking retarded or this is a joke thread. Not sure which option I would preffer

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Why are you people posting advice? Either the OP is fucking retarded or this is a joke thread. Not sure which option I would preffer
    It's closer to the first option. I know it seems like an obvious answer but nothing but about this dude is how you'd expect it. It's hard to know what's going on in his mind.

    Also, no need to be so damn rude!

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I am a straight male and I will never, ever, make such a bet with another guy.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Gay/Bi. Terrified. Trusts you. Definately not not into you.

    Fire at will. Or Rob. Or whatever his name is.

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  • Foolish ChaosFoolish Chaos Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If you two are comfortable enough around each other to watch porn, agree to a bet which involves sucking the others dick, and then go through with the dick sucking, I would think that you should be able to ask him if hes gay without it being too awkward.

    I mean COME ON.

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

    I have to agree- a person who always upholds he's word wouldn't have agreed to the bet if he wasn't interested in doing that in the first place imo...

    some things are embarrassing, other things cross the line most men wouldn't (i.e. bjs)

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

    I have to agree- a person who always upholds he's word wouldn't have agreed to the bet if he wasn't interested in doing that in the first place imo...

    some things are embarrassing, other things cross the line most men wouldn't (i.e. bjs)
    Except gay men. They would give a blowjob.

    But giving is much gayer than recieving. You can recieve a blowjob from another guy and still not technically be gay.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

    I have to agree- a person who always upholds he's word wouldn't have agreed to the bet if he wasn't interested in doing that in the first place imo...

    some things are embarrassing, other things cross the line most men wouldn't (i.e. bjs)
    Except gay men. They would give a blowjob.

    But giving is much gayer than recieving. You can recieve a blowjob from another guy and still not technically be gay.

    You can also give a blowjob and not be gay...

    edit: I should have said "straight men" in the other post.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

    I have to agree- a person who always upholds he's word wouldn't have agreed to the bet if he wasn't interested in doing that in the first place imo...

    some things are embarrassing, other things cross the line most men wouldn't (i.e. bjs)
    Except gay men. They would give a blowjob.

    But giving is much gayer than recieving. You can recieve a blowjob from another guy and still not technically be gay.

    According to who? The Gay Society for Extremely Gay Men Who are Extremely Gay But Not Really?

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  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Sucking him off would be the sort of thing a person who likes him would do, but it would also be the thing a person who always upholds his word no matter how weird the charge is would do.

    No it fucking isn't.

    I have to agree- a person who always upholds he's word wouldn't have agreed to the bet if he wasn't interested in doing that in the first place imo...

    some things are embarrassing, other things cross the line most men wouldn't (i.e. bjs)
    Except gay men. They would give a blowjob.

    But giving is much gayer than recieving. You can recieve a blowjob from another guy and still not technically be gay.

    OK, I don't know what kind of people you've met over the course of your lifetime... but straight men generally do not give or receive blowjobs from other men.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Except gay men. They would give a blowjob.

    But giving is much gayer than recieving. You can recieve a blowjob from another guy and still not technically be gay.

    You can also give a blowjob and not be gay...

    edit: I should have said "straight men" in the other post.

    But the odds of both get significantly lower the more often you seek it out.

    Stevie, you are either dumber than a bag of hammers, or thicker than the great wall of China. He is gay. Gay, gay, gay, gay, gay. He may still be in denial about it, but his behavior indicates he's getting less and less uncomfortable. If you don't feel comfortable approaching him yet, don't. He's not going to get any less gay if you treat him the same way you always have. But if you like him enough that you want to grab him before he switches his attention from female skanks to male skanks, you'd better pounce.

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  • WillethWilleth Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.

    'Is it gay in here, or is it just me?'

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.

    'Is it gay in here, or is it just me?'

    That may be the best pickup line I've heard in a long time.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Willeth wrote: »
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.
    Your right. Tbh I dunno why I was tryin to talk myself out of believing he was gay (that's probably a whole other issue in and of itself). Fuck it, I'll just ask. What's the worst that can happen if I do ask him about his orientation?

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Just make sure you don't come across as pressuring him. If he denies being gay, just go with it for now. He might just not be comfortable coming out yet or he might actually not be gay/bi.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
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  • EriicEriic Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.
    Your right. Tbh I dunno why I was tryin to talk myself out of believing he was gay (that's probably a whole other issue in and of itself). Fuck it, I'll just ask. What's the worst that can happen if I do ask him about his orientation?

    Putting his penis in your mouth is one thing, but asking him about his sexual orientation might make things awkward. :rotate:

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Eriic wrote: »
    Stevie2Sxc wrote: »
    Willeth wrote: »
    Man to be honest the only thing you need to do now is raise the question. Maybe next time he takes his damn shirt off. He's at the very least interested in thinking of himself as bisexual.
    Your right. Tbh I dunno why I was tryin to talk myself out of believing he was gay (that's probably a whole other issue in and of itself). Fuck it, I'll just ask. What's the worst that can happen if I do ask him about his orientation?

    Putting his penis in your mouth is one thing, but asking him about his sexual orientation might make things awkward. :rotate:
    Well tbh that required less social interaction :winky: but I get your weird head-rotating point

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  • YarYar Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    "Are you gay?"

    "No way, man! Chicks! CHICKS!!"

    "Oh. Well... can we make another one of those dick-sucking bets?"

    "You're on!"

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  • Stevie2SxcStevie2Sxc __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2009
    Yar wrote: »
    "Are you gay?"

    "No way, man! Chicks! CHICKS!!"

    "Oh. Well... can we make another one of those dick-sucking bets?"

    "You're on!"
    I doubt that conversation will play out in that way

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