Thinkin' Lincoln EDIT: couple sketches

NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Artist's Corner
I'll cut the welcoming crap out and just post some arts. :)
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Fake Abraham Lincoln action movie (whole series located here.

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Screamin' Lincoln.

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Orson Welles spin off.

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Dusty Rhodes is kind of fat.

Kind comments or critiques are appreciated! :mrgreen:

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  • JessiconesJessicones Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I like your clean lines and Lincoln's hat/ holster! Although the ribbon in the second picture kind of throws me. It's like a bandanna...hat. I do get what you're trying to do though (like the hat is part of his head)- It could maybe be on under his hat? I got nothin'. Just a personal preference.

    Oooh! Also, in the last picture there is a texture on the left side but nowhere else. I don't know if that was intentional but if not clone stamp that motha around! It doesn't have to be all over, just here and there for consistency.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Mucho thanks! The whole bandanna thing... I was shooting for a slight Rambo parody (the Lincoln posters started out that way). Normally I just have it draped over the shoulder, but I thought that was a tad boring for that picture.

    I do see what you're talking about with the last picture. That's really just a photo of my wall, with that part having a little bit of glare. Now that I look at it again does look like it's only in one spot.

    I'll have some new thingies up shortly, but thanks again! :D

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    man your style is so very gabe
    i like lincoln's hat full of weaponry
    it's a nice touch

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Thanks! I hope I'm not treading the waters of ripping him off, but damn I just admire his art.

    One thing I still need to add is Lincoln's hat's ability to shoot out extra ammo from the top. Or missiles. Or candy corn...

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    well, i do have to admit that i thought your avatar was something you had taken directly from one of the comics
    but, his style has it's influences too so eh

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  • winter_combat_knightwinter_combat_knight Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i like these two the best.
    090204-lincoln.jpg
    090320.jpg

    But i think you could do something more with the expressions of the faces on the other ones. That 'blah' kinda expression is really overused now and doesn't really express anything about the character. Kinda like how most anime uses the 'one eye closed expression' for female characters. try pushing it a little further, cos your stuff looks really cool. And its funny too.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Here's an old comic strip I did a little bit ago:

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    Rough drawings for a new Lincoln poster, will end up just starting over from scratch:

    20090407-lincolnscratch.jpg

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  • mullymully Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i absolutely love that comic style -- not sure the last 3 panels were necessary, but i liked it a lot regardless.

    your inking is keen. you're very detailed. would be interested to see what you could do under that lineart with some painting-styled colouring.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Definate gabe influences here but then again gabe is heavily influenced by Stephen Silver, so y'know, I think it's different enough. It's pretty hard to do cartoon art without stepping on someones style.

    EDIT: Oh and I'm loving the shit out of your Lincoln.

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That comic is awesome, especially the last 3 panels.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i absolutely love that comic style -- not sure the last 3 panels were necessary, but i liked it a lot regardless.

    your inking is keen. you're very detailed. would be interested to see what you could do under that lineart with some painting-styled colouring.

    Thanks! My colouring tends to be pretty basic, but from time to time I try my damnedest.
    Definate gabe influences here but then again gabe is heavily influenced by Stephen Silver, so y'know, I think it's different enough. It's pretty hard to do cartoon art without stepping on someones style.

    EDIT: Oh and I'm loving the shit out of your Lincoln.

    I'd say as long I'm trying to use techniques and not just draw some pointy haired guy in a *insert retro video game character* shirt, I'm on the right side of things. And yeah, I've been milking the Lincoln stuff for all its worth, and will continue to do so.
    That comic is awesome, especially the last 3 panels.

    FYI, the slice of pie in the roller skate next to him in the title panel is his best friend, who only speaks in spanish.... telepathically.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    what you said about using the style and not straight up copying his work is very true
    everyone has styles derived from influences
    that's just the way things is.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Work has been keeping me from the drawing board so to speak, but these aren't from that long ago. New shit soon.

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    Pennies_Arcade_by_nightlink.jpg

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  • NotASenatorNotASenator Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I love you

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  • AlienMastermindAlienMastermind Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Love the line style. Man, that is good stuff.

    LOVE the Dusty Rhodes poster....are those skittles or jellybeans popping out of his mouth?

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Love the line style. Man, that is good stuff.

    LOVE the Dusty Rhodes poster....are those skittles or jellybeans popping out of his mouth?

    Didn't really give it much thought... lets go with skittles.
    I love you

    Not unless I see a ring o_O

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  • AlienMastermindAlienMastermind Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hey Night, since you're on now. Do you do analog or digital inking....and what do you use to get the proper brush texture for the backgrounds?

    Over at the AC Book Title competition thread, I posted a piece I just did for it...it's past the due date, and all, but how do you get the 'spackle' effect...is it just a texture brush or paint spatter effect?

    I'm using Photoshop/Illustrator with scanned in pencils.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hey Night, since you're on now. Do you do analog or digital inking....and what do you use to get the proper brush texture for the backgrounds?

    Over at the AC Book Title competition thread, I posted a piece I just did for it...it's past the due date, and all, but how do you get the 'spackle' effect...is it just a texture brush or paint spatter effect?

    I'm using Photoshop/Illustrator with scanned in pencils.

    Well, the Lincoln 9 poster is obviously inked in pen (mixture of microns and fabre castells), but just about everything else is digital.

    As far as the texture, do you mean the Dusty Rhodes one? On that I just took a photo of a wall at work, and played around with the settings until it looked right (I think that's just on screen or overlay). The same thing was done of the Lincoln bust shot, just different photos and different effects.

    I did look at yours. If you have a digital camera and a textured wall, try that instead of the brushes, since they tend to really repeat the patterns at the same size without much in the way of hiding the look.

    It's also neat to group the texture layer to the line art or colour layers alone. That way it just doesn't look like it was laid right on top or right behind.

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  • Radar6590Radar6590 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nightlink wrote: »
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    This looks cool, but the shadows are too saturated. For the most part, shadows need to be (at least eventually), less saturated than the flat color. Add another layer over those shades and drop the saturation of them (not entirely covering what you have), and I think my eyes will burn a little less when looking at Tycho and Gabe. :)

    Another point of interest is that you only used this kind of airbrushing technique to shade. Give some hard edges to really define folds or hard angles and it'll give it a much more three dimensional feel. Your lines are awesome, and you're good at color picking flats, which is why your flat colored stuff looks so sweet. :) Just work on shading stuff and you'll really fly.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Here's a leetle something different. Its no where near down (still need the correct spelling on the guy's name, as well as adding aging effects to look like a beaten up poster).

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    Suggestions? Since, you know, you guys are cool like that :winky:

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    The white and red crossing over red and grey and black at the top is a little difficult to read. Less vibrant colors ( a lower saturation red, and maybe a dingy, yellowed white (also would help with the worn look) could help the readability. Also, a cleaner font could help.

    The blues are far too saturated.

    The picture(s) of the guy are too small.

    The patterns in the backgrounds look arbitrary and are distracting.

    The title and catchphrase are too small.

    ...and the orange that only shows up between some letters in the title is unecessary, and decreases the readability of the title.

    hopefully that helps some. I like what you have going on so far.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What Manon said and also the photo's you are using are complete shit. Is this a guy you know? If so, photograph him again in a better light, no flash.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Mucho thank... 'os?

    The colours are bright, though they will be faded, spot on about the background pattern though.

    Here's an idea of what I'm kind of shooting it to at least resemble (I saved over the file and wasn't able to change the credits)
    090206-stiffdrink.jpg

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Mustang wrote: »
    What Manon said and also the photo's you are using are complete shit. Is this a guy you know? If so, photograph him again in a better light, no flash.

    The photos are junk, just what I could take real quick with my very limited camera. He's actually a beer delivery driver at the restaurant I work at, and I had about 5 minutes to get some photos with a green screen I set up earlier that didn't do dick for me (granted that's not an excuse, bad photos are bad photos).

    He seemed responsive to the whole idea, so new photos might happen. Can't promised it, but I at least have Lincoln and talking cakes to fall back on.

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    can't see your image.

    If you can get new photos, and you want to keep that shot, work on more dynamic use of the gun.

    http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_en-USUS293US303&um=1&sa=1&q=dirty+harry+poster&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Is it working now? Same photos are used, so not a big loss.

    Damn, I didn't even think of Dirty Harry! I'll see about the photos, but if I'm not able to get 'em I'll just abandon it.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Wow, long time, no post.

    Parody of the Give 'Em Hell Malone poster:

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  • DeeLockDeeLock Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Abraham Lincoln is like a zombie.

    You gotta shoot him in the head.

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  • MustangMustang Arbiter of Unpopular Opinions Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I love this charachter, have you thought about putting together a few comics? I want to see bad-ass Lincoln in action.

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I want to like this idea so much, but the Penny-Arcade visuals just kill it for me.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Just trying to get my bearings for adapting the Lincoln story for a comic. As well as a Malone sketch. You know, for shits as well as giggles.

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  • D-RobeD-Robe Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That might be the best hat I've ever seen. Ever.

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    why is the cast shadow from his head a perfect circle and so small..
    At first I thought it was a weird exstenstion of his beard. But that hat is great.

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  • NightlinkNightlink Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    why is the cast shadow from his head a perfect circle and so small..
    At first I thought it was a weird exstenstion of his beard. But that hat is great.

    'Cause I'm a big dummy. I had actually first drawn the shadow on the stovepipe part of the hat on the wrong side, but caught it quick enough. To be fixed in the lineart art phase.

    Anything else I can fix? Detailed comic looks don't really come naturally to me, so I'm all ears.

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the brim of the hat is wide as hell, so if his head is going to be casting a shadow that strong, so would the hat.

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  • srsizzysrsizzy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the brim of the hat is wide as hell, so if his head is going to be casting a shadow that strong, so would the hat.
    And his face would not be lit if the light is above him.

    Also, those handguns look really small in his enormous meaty hands. Like, those fingers are going to be stuck in the trigger. I think it might be more badass if they were proportional to his awesome size.

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  • ManonvonSuperockManonvonSuperock Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    the handguns don't look small, but I can't imagine the handle fitting in the hand, I'm seeing close fists with the top portion of the gun resting on them... kind of liefeldish.

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