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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    ATTN SCIENCE
    Subject: ESCR under attack - CONTACT NIH TODAY!!!

    Forwarded message from Don Reed, national stem cell research advocate--

    Dear Stem Cell Research Advocate:

    The next 12 days are crucial in the stem cell research struggle.

    Here's why.

    Remember when President Obama signed that document removing the Bush stem
    cell restrictions? That same day he called upon the National Institutes of
    Health to draft a new set of guidelines for scientists wanting federal
    funding.

    Those guidelines have just been issued. see
    http://stemcells.nih.gov/policy/2009draft.htm

    The next 14 days are the comment period for the new guidelines for stem cell
    research, which American scientists will have to live with if they want
    federal funding. This is the public's only chance to shape those guidelines:
    which can be improved-or made worse.

    Unfortunately, there are problems with the proposed guidelines!

    Not only are the guidelines far more conservative than we had hoped, but
    opponents of the research are systematically flooding the comment process.

    Conservative religious bodies, have launched a national campaign to attack early stem cell research by mass emails to the NIH.

    *"The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) launched a new
    "Oppose Destructive Stem Cell Research" campaign today, equipping citizens
    to contact Congress and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to oppose
    embryonic stem cell research ." -- WASHINGTON, May 6
    /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ www.usccb.org/stemcellcampaign

    Is their anti-research campaign having an effect?

    Dr. Wise Young of Rutgers University , ". of the 6000 plus comments that NIH
    has received concerning the draft guidelines, 99% were from people who
    opposed embryonic stem cell research."-Carecure Forum
    http://sci.rutgers.edu/forum/showpost.php?p=1039001&postcount=12

    Imagine what the enemies of research will do with a statistic like that!
    Think of the State Senators and Representatives who have to fight for stem
    cell funding-they will be hammered-no politician ever wants to stand alone.

    Supporters of stem cell research must be heard.

    To prevail, we need to do three things:

    Inform ourselves,

    Act individually,

    Reach out to our networks

    .
    First, read this message all the way through; it contains background
    information from the Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research
    (CAMR), and other sources.

    Second, send your message to the government. Click on the comment box you
    will find at the following url:
    http://nihoerextra.nih.gov/stem_cells/add.htm


    Third, SHARE THIS LETTER-or write your own-- email all your contacts.

    Any statement of support has impact. One sentence can make a difference.

    Click on the following to contact National Institutes of Health:

    http://nihoerextra.nih.gov/stem_cells/add.htm

    Your comment can be as short as "I support embryonic stem cell research, and am glad some of the restrictions are being loosened." That matters.

    Anyone who clicks on the comment box, and writes in a sentence-that message
    will be tallied as one citizen in support. Of course, you may say more if
    you want. If you are a long-term research supporter, your letter will be put
    in the expert witness category.

    But if you want to get more involved in shaping the guidelines, that would be
    helpful. The guidelines are politically very timid, and must be
    strengthened. Problems are:

    a "grandfather clause" is needed to insure that every stem cell line already
    approved under the previous stringent guidelines will be eligible;

    alternate sources of stem cell lines such as SCNT should not be excluded from funding, and more. (see CAMR comments below.)

    But every patient advocate in America must at least click on the comment
    box, and make a statement in support of early stem cell research.

    Click on the following to contact National Institutes of Health:

    http://nihoerextra.nih.gov/stem_cells/add.htm

    This affects everyone in America, and the world. MORE THAN ONE PERSON IN A
    FAMILY MAY COMMENT. Every adult friend or family member should click and
    make a comment-- as well as every scientist, medical student, every teacher,
    every parent-everyone who has a reason to want stem cell therapies and
    cures.

    Here it is, one more time: http://nihoerextra.nih.gov/stem_cells/add.htm.

    Or, send a letter (ideally on letterhead) to: NIH Stem Cell Guidelines, MSC
    7997, 9000 Rockville Pike, Bethesda , Maryland , 20892-7997

    But whatever you are going to do, do it now. There is very little time
    before the May 26th deadline.

    We have worked hard, many years. We are so close. We must not falter now.

    Click on the button, send your comments in-do it today, please.

    And thanks. You make the difference: you are one of the overworked few who
    change the world.

    P.S. Here is a sample letter from Coalition for the Advancement of Medical Research (CAMR)

    You can copy and paste into Comment section of NIH comment form and edit as appropriate for you.

    Embryonic stem cell research holds great promise for millions of Americans
    suffering from many diseases and disorders. I am not a scientist, but I
    have been following progress in this field with great interest. Significant
    strides have been made over the past decade, and the final guidelines issued
    by NIH must build on this progress so that cures and new therapies can get
    to patients as quickly as possible. The final guidelines should not create
    new bureaucratic hurdles that will slow the pace of progress.

    I am pleased that these draft guidelines -- in Section II B -- would appear
    to permit federal funding of stem cell lines previously not eligible for
    federal funding and for new lines created in the future from surplus embryos
    at fertility clinics. However, as drafted, Section II B does not ensure that
    any current stem cell line will meet the criteria outlined and thus be
    eligible for federal funding. It will be important for the final guidelines
    to allow federal funds for research using all stem cell lines created by
    following ethical practices at the time they were derived. This will ensure
    that the final guidelines build on progress that has already been made.

    I also believe that the final guidelines should permit federal funding for
    stem cell lines derived from sources other than excess IVF embryos, such as
    somatic cell nuclear transfer (SCNT). Sections II B and IV of the draft
    guidelines do not permit such federal funding and I recommend that the final
    guidelines provide federal funding using stem cell lines derived in other
    ways. If not, it is essential that the NIH continue to monitor developments
    in this exciting research area and to update these guidelines as the
    research progresses.

    Thank you!

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Also this brown guy told me not to drink Pepsi next weekend

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    DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    There's urine in Corona sometimes, true story.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    There's urine in Corona sometimes, true story.

    No, that's just how it normally tastes

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    DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Guys lets allow scientists to set their own ethical standards... what could possibly go wrong?

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    CampionCampion Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Monkey fetus whales.

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    DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Like, has Obama actually ever seen Jurassic Park or what?

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    ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Like, has Obama actually ever seen Jurassic Park or what?

    No, but he's watched Species on VHS so many times he wore out the tape.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    stripped out bolts in space suck

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    DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Butler wrote: »
    Like, has Obama actually ever seen Jurassic Park or what?

    No, but he's watched Species on VHS so many times he wore out the tape.

    Just that one part though.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    Guys lets allow scientists to set their own ethical standards... what could possibly go wrong?
    which is precisely why they're asking for the public to give their perspective

    oh wait, are you saying it's perfectly acceptable to let only an extremely vocal religious minority be represented?
    after all, what could possibly go wrong?

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Everyone loves killer tentanipples.

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Druhim wrote: »

    On one hand, full colour is clearly superior. But on the other, the vast majority of the content I would read on a kindle device is black text on white. So it's not that huge an improvement for that specific use.

    Those newspapers out of Minority Report are really going to be a reality soon aren't they?

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    LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Druhim wrote: »

    over a year off though

    long time to wait

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    DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    Lockout wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »

    over a year off though

    long time to wait
    or alternatively, a year is a pretty short time for a device you spent almost $500 on to become largely obsolete

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    BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Early adopters of every technology get screwed, but its the only way to finance progress.

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    LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Lockout wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »

    over a year off though

    long time to wait
    or alternatively, a year is a pretty short time for a device you spent almost $500 on to become largely obsolete

    i guess. it'll still let you read books fine though, just comes down to how much you want that color display

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    DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Guys lets allow scientists to set their own ethical standards... what could possibly go wrong?
    which is precisely why they're asking for the public to give their perspective

    oh wait, are you saying it's perfectly acceptable to let only an extremely vocal religious minority be represented?
    after all, what could possibly go wrong?

    I'm fine with society as a whole being represented when it comes to ethical standards regarding stem cell research.

    Too bad Obama just passed the buck.

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    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Deacon, shut the hell up in here. This is science.

    On a thread relevant note, today there was an issue during the spacewalk where the EVA team needed to remove a large grip handle in order to make room to install a new module. The handle had 2xbolts in the upper portion and 2xbolts in the lower portion. One of the lower bolts got stripped out and the EVA team was unable to remove the bolt with any of the tools present on the orbiter.

    The final decision was to have the astronaut simply pull the loose end of the handle away from the HST until the remaining bolt reaching shearing force and snapped.

    In other words, we had a dude in space yank a chunk of metal off of the Hubble SPACE telescope.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I am going to do science all this week

    specifically archaeology

    so I will see you mooks on Friday

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    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Weaver wrote: »
    Deacon, shut the hell up in here. This is science.

    On a thread relevant note, today there was an issue during the spacewalk where the EVA team needed to remove a large grip handle in order to make room to install a new module. The handle had 2xbolts in the upper portion and 2xbolts in the lower portion. One of the lower bolts got stripped out and the EVA team was unable to remove the bolt with any of the tools present on the orbiter.

    The final decision was to have the astronaut simply pull the loose end of the handle away from the HST until the remaining bolt reaching shearing force and snapped.

    In other words, we had a dude in space yank a chunk of metal off of the Hubble SPACE telescope.
    NASA's official statement is "this is why we send humans to space"

    hell yeah

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