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Observe and Report Rape

captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
edited April 2009 in Social Entropy++
I saw Observe and Report today. Seth Rogen does not play his normal lovable fuckup. He's more of a delusional, self-righteous fuckup. It was half funny and half "Oh shit did they really just do that".

Notable cameos by Aziz Ansari (who is great) and Patton Oswalt, who was a surprise. Oswalt's part is small though.

Once again, a fair amount of dick in this movie.


I saw 4 Fast 4 Furious last night. It was about as good as can be expected.

I still want to see Adventureland, has anyone seen it yet?

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also there was a preview for a movie called The Hangover, which looks pretty good.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/66268/movie-trailers-the-hangover

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    so, I'm confused
    which was the first captain k?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    this one

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  • captainkcaptaink TexasRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    But I'm not the one everyone loves to be serenaded by.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    A lot of reviews and articles have been talking about this:
    We assumed that once we saw the movie, we'd see some mitigating scenes that, as the Times claims, make it more clear that Brandi, Faris's cosmetics-counter floozy, has given her consent. Surely no studio comedy, no matter how supposedly "dark," would portray its lead character as a rapist, right?

    And then we watched it.

    It turns out that yes, by any reasonable standard of behavior, Seth Rogen's character, Ronnie Barnhardt, totally rapes Faris's Brandi.

    The movie doesn't mitigate that sex scene at all. In fact, it makes it even more clear than the trailer does that when Brandi and Ronnie get home from dinner, she's unbelievably trashed on antidepressants and tequila. Not only does she throw up all over the place, she can barely walk — and she certainly can't give any kind of informed consent. She's way too wasted for her yelling at Ronnie to mean anything.

    He may have no idea how to interact properly (or even legally) with a woman, but he's desperate for connection and helpless before her limited charms.

    And he even shows a glimmer of self-awareness — after all, mid-rape, he stops for a moment, worried about whether he's doing the right thing. Yeah, he's so deluded and terrified that her drunken reprimand convinces him he is doing the right thing, but at least he thinks about it, which is more than you can say for his behavior in the rest of Observe and Report.

    What will audiences think of this scene, which is deeply uncomfortable while also being explosively funny? Hang out at your local multiplex this weekend if you're in the mood to overhear a lot of angry post-movie arguments, as couples debate the totally insane movie they've just seen — a truly dark big-studio comedy in which, yes, Seth Rogen rapes the girl of his dreams.

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2009/04/does_seth_rogen_rape_anna_fari.html

    Now, I haven't seen it so I'm curious what your thoughts on the scene were.

    I don't have anything against movies portraying rape scenes -- everything about human behavior, from the best to the worst, should be ethically acceptable to depict in art -- but how they do it matters.

    Like, are we horrified/laughing at Ronnie, and by extension the sort of middle-America-gone-wrong archetype he represents, or are we laughing at date rape and/or anna faris' character?

    I think Ricky Gervais and the British Office is a good example of how we can laugh at totally racist and sexist and homophobic scenes and language because we're laughing at/embarrased by/horrified by the David Brent character and all his failings. It's different from a movie that asks us to say, laugh at the subject of the racial stereotype, instead of the stereotype itself or the person who subscribes to it.

    Anyway, I haven't seen it, but I'm asking because I'd prefer not to spend money to support a movie that makes light of date rape.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    backwards post

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
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    date rape doesnt matter cause it takes too many words to talk about

    8-)

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Seeing this either tonight or tomorrow. I'm pretty stoked

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Who gives a shit

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Meh, I'm not a big Seth Rogen fan and won't be seeing this, but as far as I'm concerned nothing is off-limits when it comes to comedy.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Who gives a shit

    probably people who have been victims of sexual violence?

    maybe people who care about not encouraging rape culture?

    decent human beings?

    just guessin'

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    backwards did you get all indignant when a hooker was killed in Very Bad Things or are hookers not worth you getting upset about?

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i think rape is wrong, and i dont rape anybody

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Who gives a shit

    probably people who have been victims of sexual violence?

    maybe people who care about not encouraging rape culture?

    decent human beings?

    just guessin'

    Quit being such a goddamn nitpicky pc faggot, nobody cares whether or not a character in a comedy was equipped to give consent

    god you're like every annoying douchebag politically correct farthead ever rolled up into one

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »
    Who gives a shit

    probably people who have been victims of sexual violence?

    maybe people who care about not encouraging rape culture?

    decent human beings?

    just guessin'

    And Seth Rogen's character is supposed to be a horrible person not a lovable pot-head like he usually plays

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Zephyr wrote: »
    i think rape is wrong, and i dont rape anybody
    Pack up your rape culture and take a hike!

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'll pay you back...in RAPE DOLLARS!

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Man, when did date rape become such a terrible thing? I mean, the statutory part, fine, but don't saddle me with two crimes...

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
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    Rape rape rape rape rape.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    we need a thread about how funny rape is

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Too bad George Carlin is dead.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    this movie doesn't even look very funny

    especially seth rogan's mom

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  • IpseDixitIpseDixit Treat me like a pirate And give me that bootyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'v been trying unsuccessfully to get my girlfriend to go see 4 Fast 4 Furious with me. For some reason she doesn't believe me when I tell her it's going to be a cinematic masterpiece.

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    backwards did you get all indignant when a hooker was killed in Very Bad Things or are hookers not worth you getting upset about?

    Never saw it

    I actually said I hadn't passed judgment on the movie yet, and was asking for someone else's opinion

    but please, tell me how preachy I'm being because I don't like it when people make light of rape!

    Sorry I have friends who have been victims of sexual assault and I don't find it entertaining?

    And like I said, I think there are ways you could actually pull it off in a comedy, it just depends who the movie is giving us to laugh at

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  • World as MythWorld as Myth a breezy way to annoy serious people Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    clearly this movie is piggybacking on the wild box office success of

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    PAUL BLART

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Fandyien wrote: »

    Quit being such a goddamn nitpicky pc faggot, nobody cares whether or not a character in a comedy was equipped to give consent

    My friend who's been date raped cares, because this kind of stuff usually triggers a PTSD episode for her

    I'm sure you have friends who have been victims of sexual violence who care, because 1/4 women have experienced it, but it's no wonder with your overflowing reserves of empathy that they might not have told you about it.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    backwards did you get all indignant when a hooker was killed in Very Bad Things or are hookers not worth you getting upset about?

    Never saw it

    I actually said I hadn't passed judgment on the movie yet, and was asking for someone else's opinion

    but please, tell me how preachy I'm being because I don't like it when people make light of rape!

    Sorry I have friends who have been victims of sexual assault and I don't find it entertaining?

    And like I said, I think there are ways you could actually pull it off in a comedy, it just depends who the movie is giving us to laugh at
    and I have friends that have been raped also, so take your weakass oneupmanship and go fuck yourself

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    and I have friends that have been raped also, so take your weakass oneupmanship and go fuck yourself

    Oh, most of us have friends who have been sexually assaulted, whether we know it or not. Statistics says we almost assuredly do.

    It's just you're insensitive to that experience and I'm not.

    Hooray for you.

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i was raped by your mom

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    itt backwards tells us about how much better he is at feeling bad for other people than everyone else

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    just kidding it was totally consensual

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i had sex with your mom, is what i'm getting at here

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  • KovakKovak did a lot of drugs married cher?Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    some forms of argument only work for certain subjects

    everyone smokes weed

    whats the big deal, legalize it

    everyone gets raped

    whats the big deal, legalize it

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  • sdrawkcaB emaNsdrawkcaB emaN regular
    edited April 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    itt backwards tells us about how much better he is at feeling bad for other people than everyone else

    Yeah it's called empathy

    I'd judge you all more harshly but I'm pretty sure it's just part of this forum's collective Autism spectrum disorder

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  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Zephyr wrote: »
    i was raped by your mom
    i too was raped by backward's mom

    we should form a group

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kovak wrote: »
    some forms of argument only work for certain subjects

    everyone smokes weed

    whats the big deal, legalize it

    everyone gets raped

    whats the big deal, legalize it
    nobody likes kovak

    make him illegal

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Man, who's saying legalize it?

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  • Mr. Henry BemisMr. Henry Bemis God is love Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Man, who's saying legalize it?
    me i support this

    this is something i support

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    itt backwards tells us about how much better he is at feeling bad for other people than everyone else

    Yeah it's called empathy

    I'd judge you all more harshly but I'm pretty sure it's just part of this forum's collective Autism spectrum disorder

    there's a difference between privately emphasizing with other people's plights and going onto message boards and telling everyone how terrible they are for not emphasizing with a fictional character in a comedy, dude

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  • ZephyrZephyr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    legalize rape
    legalize murder
    legalize shooting heroin into your dick

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