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Cybersecurity act of 2009.

MeizMeiz Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
What is it?
A bill to ensure the continued free flow of commerce within the United States and with its global trading partners through secure cyber communications, to provide for the continued development and exploitation of the Internet and intranet communications for such purposes, to provide for the development of a cadre of information technology specialists to improve and maintain effective cybersecurity defenses against disruption, and for other purposes

At least that's how it's being presented.

There is however a few problems that people are finding with this bill.

One of the major ones is that it encompasses authority over, well, pretty much everything that is considered an information system or network. What is deemed to be critical is up to the President. Not only that, it can be shut down if he sees fit.

Also, the Commerce Department and the Secretary of Commerce in particular will have access to all data that is deemed to be originating from a critical system.

Another fun addition is that if you're in the cybersecurity business, you'll have to get federally certified within 3 years of the bill passing.

I figured I'd let you know in case you might care or something. Oh, and the man who tabled the lovely thing is Jay Rockefeller. Keep that in mind as I'm sure his name is bound to come up more then once over this presidential term.

I don't see what business the government has having access to any information outside the federal level, let alone giving itself the authority to disrupt services for anyone outside that scope without due process.

Links:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s773/show
http://www.sundriesshack.com/2009/04/06/yes-folks-he-will-be-able-to-shut-down-the-internet/

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This doesn't seem that bad. After having skimmed the bill it seems its primary intent is education and funding: an awareness campaign and centers that enable small and medium sized businesses to properly protect their networks, and research and scholarship money for Internet security technologies and education.

    It is also concerned with strengthening standards for security and certifying companies that meet those standards, which I think would help common people to identity security companies that they can hire in confidence. There is concern over the government gaining control over the network security industry. I'm not sure what impact it would have on very small companies or individuals who make significant contributes. We don't know how easy and how much it would cost to get certified.

    Most of the language in the bill that is concerned with actual control of computer networks is relegated solely to Government networks and private critical infrastructure. There is also language in the bill to curtail abuses of the control and access of information of these private critical infrastructures. How private critical infrastructure is determined is really the only unknown here. As long as they don't start taking control of university or ISP networks I do not immediately see a problem.

    Relevant sections include 14, 16, and 17.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Cyber... security.

    Cyber... why can't they just say Network Security? Why does it have to sound like it came out an 80's Marvel comic?

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Because they are about 20 years behind on modern terminology.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Drake wrote: »
    Cyber... security.

    Cyber... why can't they just say Network Security? Why does it have to sound like it came out an AOL fetish-chatroom

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  • TheBogTheBog Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    We just have to wait until the paranoid technology-illiterate past generation dies off.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I've been waiting.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    Drake wrote: »
    Cyber... why can't they just say Network Security? Why does it have to sound like it came out an 80's Marvel comic?

    Pretty much what I came here to say the second I saw the thread title.

    "Cyber"? What does that even mean in the real world? Has it ever meant anything?

    It's "network security" or "digital security". "Cyber" ranks slightly above "series of tubes".

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's too bad this bill isn't more obviously malevolent, the government could enact it and enjoy unrestricted control over the Internet while everyone in here was piddling over the name of the law.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    To people in government, it is a series of tubes.

    Just look how late Nancy Pelosi got to the whole rick-rolling/cats meme. :lol:

    Though I'm glad at least Obama is fairly tech-savvy.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Sarksus wrote: »
    It's too bad this bill isn't more obviously malevolent, the government could enact it and enjoy unrestricted control over the Internet while everyone in here was piddling over the name of the law.

    Clearly the use of cyber must be part of their evil plan.

    But yeah, it is cause for at least some vigilance. Too bad most people who hear about this will think, "Yay! The government is keeping me safe from that wicked internet!"

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    In other news, the French Assemblée Nationale voted down their "three strikes" copyright law that banned you from the internet if you're accused of filesharing.

    It got voted down by... 21-15.

    Assemblée Nationale has 577 seats. Apparently they like to go home early during holidays.

    Or weekends.

    Or lunch.

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  • SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Drake wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    It's too bad this bill isn't more obviously malevolent, the government could enact it and enjoy unrestricted control over the Internet while everyone in here was piddling over the name of the law.

    Clearly the use of cyber must be part of their evil plan.

    But yeah, it is cause for at least some vigilance. Too bad most people who hear about this will think, "Yay! The government is keeping me safe from that wicked internet!"

    I might prefer that instead of unfounded alarmism. The government is capable of things far worse than "shutting down the Internet" and we allow them that power. The reason we can do that is because we place limits on that power and abuses of that power can be prevented or punished. The bill contains limits on the power the government would have over government and critical private infrastructure.

    We just have to ensure that those limits are honored.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    You really need a more active American Pirate Party.

    The ones here in Europe do a damn good job of reporting about the crazy shit coming out of the EU. It's some pretty hair-raising stuff.

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  • DrakeDrake Edgelord Trash Below the ecliptic plane.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Echo wrote: »
    You really need a more active American Pirate Party.

    The ones here in Europe do a damn good job of reporting about the crazy shit coming out of the EU. It's some pretty hair-raising stuff.

    American Pirate Party? I'm in.

    As long as I don't have to swab the deck or take a turn in the barrel...

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  • Dr SnofeldDr Snofeld Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Drake wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    You really need a more active American Pirate Party.

    The ones here in Europe do a damn good job of reporting about the crazy shit coming out of the EU. It's some pretty hair-raising stuff.

    American Pirate Party? I'm in.

    As long as I don't have to swab the deck or take a turn in the barrel...

    Now who's behind the times? It's all AKs and speedboats these days.

    Though I suppose swabbing the deck of a speedboat would be pretty tricky.

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