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How to tell my parents I'm moving

Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I understand this post can be hotly debated for every facet of the reasoning I am moving, but I just ask that we stay on topic.

I'm 20 years old, and completely bored of life at my house. I feel like I'm working a job that I get absolutely no satisfaction from (I know I'm 20, and I shouldn't be concerned that I'm unhappy at my job. This transcends being unhappy I completely loathe the idea of going there every day, but I make more money than most people my age do so I stay to save money). My girlfriend of 3 months, and I both have wanted to move to Grand Rapids which is 3 hours away from our homes for quite sometime now. I really wanted to move anywhere like Ann Arbor, Ypsi, or Lansing, but Grand Rapids was always an option too. She is amazing, and we both feel like We've been together for much longer than three months, because we see eachother every single day. We just can't wait to get home so we can be with eachother. We basically live with eachother. We just sleep alone 4 nights out of the week. We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards, and have gotten the funds thing out of the way. We are more than capable of doing this.

Now after the backstory onto my dilema. I am the last of three children by 6 years. My older sisters are both moved out married, and have kids. As a result my parents hold onto me with such ferocity that it can seem like if I were to move it would break their hearts because of saddness. I can't spend the night away from home two nights in a row without my Mom feeling like I don't want to be associated with them, or my Dad feeling like I don't want to help work on our car projects with him. I don't think they understand that I'm 20, and I'm getting completely antsy here. My oldest sister moved out when she was 22, and my other sister moved when she was 17 so I feel like I'm more than within the "okay I think I'm going to go make my own independence now." I'm scared to tell them this, and I'm planning on leaving in 2 months which means I need to do this fast.

My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money, haven't been seeing this girl long enough, and every other excuse to keep me here, but I am truely steadfast in doing this. I just don't know how to tell them without rolling over after their first argument and completely dissapointing myself for not being more independent. I can't let them keep me here. Please H/A I need you to give me pointers, because I have a non-confrontational attitude, and that usually allows people to walk all over me.

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  • FagatronFagatron Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    "Yo mom, dad, I'm moving out.

    Peace."

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  • Rhan9Rhan9 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, just go and tell them that you're moving in a few months. They should see things like this coming, and normal people don't freak out. That said, your mom might be fussy over it for a while, but that's the way with most mothers.

    It's not exactly a super complex situation.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rhan9 wrote: »
    Yeah, just go and tell them that you're moving in a few months. They should see things like this coming, and normal people don't freak out. That said, your mom might be fussy over it for a while, but that's the way with most mothers.

    It's not exactly a super complex situation.

    Maybe I'm just making it out to be more than it is. I'm just really scared to tell them. Is that normal?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It just means that you care about them, and know they like having you around. But that doesn't mean you have to stay there. They care about you too I'm sure, and while they'll be sad you're moving out, they should support you and be happy you're being independent. Just reassure them you'll still visit etc. and that they can come visit you.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That's a really good point. I'm just unsure how I'm going to tell them. I'm sure I'll tell my my Mom first, and then my Dad. Everything always works like that in my house. My Dad would much rather be the last to know it seems like. I guess just getting it out without pussy-footing around would make me seem a thousand times more confident.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    The moving out process will be an event for both you and your parents. They'll live. Your mom will probably try to talk you out of it, but you're her last baby in the house, so that's a given. You can always come back on visits, etc.

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  • necroSYSnecroSYS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    You're only moving 3 hours away. You can come back and visit on a whim. If I were you, I'd be more concerned that you're putting a big amount of stress on a (regardless of what you tell yourself) nascent relationship.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    necroSYS wrote: »
    You're only moving 3 hours away. You can come back and visit on a whim. If I were you, I'd be more concerned that you're putting a big amount of stress on a (regardless of what you tell yourself) nascent relationship.

    The upside to this is that we found an apartment that is two rooms. It is really cheap, and the landlord agreed to reduce rent on the place if we do some stuff that needs to be fixed. The sink needs some work, and a couple wall sockets need to be installed, and he wants to paint each room a different color. So he agreed to cut down the rent even more if we do this stuff for him. If anything should happen to us I could move my stuff to the other room and just ride out the rest of the lease.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're still relatively close and you give them plenty of notice on it and demonstrate that you've thought through the implications of your choice, i really don't think you'd seem too much major emotional issues from them. If you just dumped it on them all at once it would probably end in a shouting match, but given time to mentally adjust to the situation and acclimatize themselves to it you'll probably find them at least mildly supportive.

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  • saggiosaggio Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think moving out is a great idea. I think moving out with a girl you've only been dating for three months is a terrible idea.

    I don't know what the laws are like where you are, but here, you are technically common law married after three months of cohabitation. That means if she moves out or you two break up, she can be a real douche and take half of your stuff. That's worst case scenario right there, but even beyond that, living with your lover is something that is very stressful, especially if you two are young and haven't done it before.

    I would strongly recommend getting your own place first.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    saggio wrote: »
    I think moving out is a great idea. I think moving out with a girl you've only been dating for three months is a terrible idea.

    I don't know what the laws are like where you are, but here, you are technically common law married after three months of cohabitation. That means if she moves out or you two break up, she can be a real douche and take half of your stuff. That's worst case scenario right there, but even beyond that, living with your lover is something that is very stressful, especially if you two are young and haven't done it before.

    I would strongly recommend getting your own place first.

    In the states it's more like 7 years and they're not recognized in the vast majority of states either. 3 months is a very short time to establish a common law marriage, that's bizarre.

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  • RipsteelRipsteel Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hey

    If you think you're plan's going to work...go ahead. Be honest with you parents...but at the same time be specific and firm about your decision...

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I can't spend the night away from home two nights in a row without my Mom feeling like I don't want to be associated with them, or my Dad feeling like I don't want to help work on our car projects with him.

    Whether they mean to be or not it seems like your parent's are emotionally controlling with you, and that it works. Going from living with your parents to living with a girlfriend of three months doesn't seem like a great idea to begin with, but you should at least look at your relationships and make sure you're not jumping from one controlling one to another. Some questions you might want to ask are: "Who's idea was it to move, really?" "Have my parents always used how I make them feel to get me to do what they want?" "Do I avoid doing things because my (parents/girlfriend) makes me feel bad about it afterwards?"

    No one here can tell you whether what you are doing is a good or bad idea, but at least do some self reflection to make sure you're not just moving in with a younger version of your parents.

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  • PitselehPitseleh Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I cringe when I hear "we're practically living together".

    Practically living together and ACTUALLY living together are two extremely different things.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Pitseleh wrote: »
    I cringe when I hear "we're practically living together".

    Practically living together and ACTUALLY living together are two extremely different things.

    LOL yes. My bf and I spend half the week living together at my place but he still has his place to go home too every Monday morning and that makes a huge difference. Knowing that is so important. It'll be two years in June and we're not moving in together until this September. Moving in too soon can kill a relationship that otherwise might have been fine if given more time.

    This is going to be a big reason why your folks probably aren't going to be down with this. No matter how long it feels like you've been dating, 3 months is a damn short-time and your folks are totally sane to question the thought behind this. Also, having a second bedroom in case something happens is fine but it's not as easy as it sounds. You'll still be living together and very few people want to stay in a year long lease like that. I'd suggest looking into what your subletting options would be.


    I'd also be concerned about agreeing to fix up the place for a rent reduction. Unless you know exactly what work is expected to be done and how much it's going to cost, that could end up really screwing you in the end.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You are set on moving in with your girlfriend, and yes...it can be a bad idea to move in so quickly. But since you're going to do it, I'll throw out there...go into it happy and thinking it's going to work.

    I knew my friend online for about 4 years, went and visited him for a week around christmas when I was 19 and moving cross country. A couple months later at spring break I visited for a week. And at the end of the semester I moved out of my parents house and we moved in together. Hell, we even started a joint bank account as out only account right away. Which I know ANYONE will tell me was stupid.

    We've been living together for over 6 years now(Married for 4), and really no problems. We get along great.

    I wouldn't recommend this course of action to anyone that didn't want to, but if it's something you want to try it's nothing to be scared of. It can work out. It can crash and burn, but it doesn't have to. I think the fact that you're moving to a new city together could help things out too, you'll support each other and discover things together. Make a group of friends that are your friends as a couple. I'm sure you'll have individual friends too and all. But in general it'll be fun and you're not set in your ways about how YOUR apartments are supposed to be since this is your first time away from your parents. You'll figure out together how your(plural) apartment is going to be.

    My mom is like your mom. Whenever I implied leaving or something she would get all mopey. They get over it though...just be nice when you tell them. Eventually they know they'll see you less, but they will be happy when they see you...not still angry that you moved out.

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Its often hard on the parent when their child moves away - Lewie's sister moved a 5 1/2 hour drive away when she went to Uni aged 18, and only came home at the end of terms. Lewie moved 2 hours away, and is also only home during term breaks. I miss/ed them both when they're away, but that's part of your kids' growing up and moving on. I don't know anyone who expects their children to live with them for ever, that would be just weird.
    Your parents will know you will move out some day - your sisters did; its normal. The longer you leave it, the tougher it will be, and to spring it on them the week before you move would be just cruel. Tell them now.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I moved way farther away from my parents than you did, and I figured they'd freak, too.

    Really, after they talked over, they both thought it was a great idea. I think it upset them more when I told them I wanted to take the car (it was a third vehicle for the two of them that they were rarely going to drive). Later, when it had a problem, my mom told me "you get that fixed now, I don't want you up there without a car."

    Yeah, I really wouldn't worry about it. It'll grow on them, I'm sure.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    I know I'm 20, and I shouldn't be concerned that I'm unhappy at my job.

    Not true.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Don't treat your parents like they're stupid, they've had two kids move out and they know it's going to happen again sooner or later. They might want you to be closer but ultimately it's your decision not theirs. 3 hours is not that bad a drive.

    They might be right about moving in with your girlfriend btw but at least she'll be splitting the rent(right?).

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    saggio wrote: »
    I think moving out is a great idea. I think moving out with a girl you've only been dating for three months is a terrible idea.

    I don't know what the laws are like where you are, but here, you are technically common law married after three months of cohabitation. That means if she moves out or you two break up, she can be a real douche and take half of your stuff. That's worst case scenario right there, but even beyond that, living with your lover is something that is very stressful, especially if you two are young and haven't done it before.

    I would strongly recommend getting your own place first.

    So how is life in Edwardian England?

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Just don't burn any bridges. I have the feeling you'll be using this one again.

    Have your parents met your girlfriend? How do they feel about her?

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  • mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards

    My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money
    You're moving out so you can... live on food stamps?

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mugginns wrote: »
    We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards

    My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money
    You're moving out so you can... live on food stamps?

    I wasn't sure what bridge cards are until now either. Seriously, if you can't afford to move out and feed yourselves you need to rethink this ASAP.

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  • Teslan26Teslan26 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    My parents had been hassling me to plan my life, so about 2 weeks before I left - with pretty much everything totally planned, they pestered me and I said 'Don't worry, I'll be gone in 2 weeks'.

    With some explanation and much faffing they were fine with it.

    Make it clear, be blunt, then expand and explain. All will be well.

    Although if your plan sucks they are liable to point out its' shortcomings.

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  • Toxin01Toxin01 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mugginns wrote: »
    We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards

    My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money
    You're moving out so you can... live on food stamps?

    I wasn't sure what bridge cards are until now either. Seriously, if you can't afford to move out and feed yourselves you need to rethink this ASAP.

    Wait thats what bridge cards are?

    Yeah, seriously, moving out so you can live on foodstamps is a terrible idea. If you can't afford to support yourself you really shouldn't be moving.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I still think it's a great idea.

    Nothing brings two people in a brand new relationship together like severe financial hardship.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    Maybe I'm just making it out to be more than it is. I'm just really scared to tell them. Is that normal?

    You're making it out to be more than it is.

    I didn't have the nerve either, when I was 22 back in 2002. I had kinda-sorta arranged to take the place of a friend that moved out of an apartment shared with two other friends, so worst-case scenario I'd have to decline and they'd find someone else to live there.

    I didn't manage to tell my parents until a week before I actually moved. They were surprised, of course, but very supportive. And they probably saw it as a good thing too, me being 22 and all.

    And then we packed my shit and they helped me move.

    edit: and I wrote this before reading the second page. Food stamps? No.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Err yeah, should have asked before but how much money are you making?

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Three months of cohabitation means marriage? Really?

    So are there a lot of marital hijinks between different gender roommates?

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Three months of cohabitation means marriage? Really?

    So are there a lot of marital hijinks between different gender roommates?

    It is harder to prove a common law marriage than disprove it. You have to take some pretty drastic measures to have one recognized.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Toxin01 wrote: »
    mugginns wrote: »
    We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards

    My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money
    You're moving out so you can... live on food stamps?

    I wasn't sure what bridge cards are until now either. Seriously, if you can't afford to move out and feed yourselves you need to rethink this ASAP.

    Wait thats what bridge cards are?

    Yeah, seriously, moving out so you can live on foodstamps is a terrible idea. If you can't afford to support yourself you really shouldn't be moving.

    Finally found a resource on it after getting way too many results geared towards old ladies playing bridge:

    http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0,1607,7-124-5455_7034-14303--,00.html
    Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) is an innovative vehicle to delivering government benefits by combining the best of electronic technologies. Instead of paper food stamps and paper checks, Department of Human Services (DHS) clients are issued a debit card to purchase food products and access cash benefits. This debit card is called the Michigan Bridge Card. The federal government has mandated that all states use EBT for food assistance benefits.

    Approximately 4,400 retailers and over 4,000 ATM's are available for Bridge Card use within the state. The level of participation by retailers and financial institutions has been vital to our success.

    It's welfare on a debit card.

    Seriously? You're going to move out of your parent's house to mooch off the state? o_O

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    That seems like it would be harder to sell to the parents then the whole "moving out" thing.

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  • Beren39Beren39 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    saggio wrote: »

    I don't know what the laws are like where you are, but here, you are technically common law married after three months of cohabitation.

    Woah, woah, sorry to come back to this, but what province do you live in (I'm assuming you're Canadian)? The shortest length of required time that I'm aware of is New Brunswick and that's 12 months. 3 months would be the most ridiculous requirement I have ever heard of.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Do either of you have a job lined up? Any kind of savings? The fact you're already applying for welfare does not bode well for your ability to live independently.

    These are the kinds of questions your parents are going to ask and I doubt they're going to give you their blessing to leave and become a homeless person.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I wasn't really looking for advice on how to live, as I was looking for advice on how to bring myself to tell my parents.

    Noted though.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I wasn't really looking for advice on how to live, as I was looking for advice on how to bring myself to tell my parents.

    Noted though.

    It's quite a different thing to tell your parents you're going to move out and go on welfare than youve decided to try and move out and pay your own way.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mugginns wrote: »
    We already have apartments lined up to look at, applied for bridge cards

    My Parents will tell me I'm too young, don't make enough money
    You're moving out so you can... live on food stamps?

    If you're planning to live on food stamps then your parents are goddamn right about you not making enough money.

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  • Tucanwarrior13Tucanwarrior13 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    I wasn't really looking for advice on how to live, as I was looking for advice on how to bring myself to tell my parents.

    Noted though.

    It's quite a different thing to tell your parents you're going to move out and go on welfare than youve decided to try and move out and pay your own way.

    Its not even that we're getting them to rely on them. We just want to have them incase we should get ourselves into a bind.

    We both make, and have saved more than enough money to live comfortably for 4 months without jobs. We have already started lining up jobs in the city we are moving to.

    I will look at subletting options though.

    Thank you to the poster who said moving in can work if you just have faith. Not every relationship goes by a mold.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    I wasn't really looking for advice on how to live, as I was looking for advice on how to bring myself to tell my parents.

    Noted though.

    It's quite a different thing to tell your parents you're going to move out and go on welfare than youve decided to try and move out and pay your own way.

    Its not even that we're getting them to rely on them. We just want to have them incase we should get ourselves into a bind.

    We both make, and have saved more than enough money to live comfortably for 4 months without jobs. We have already started lining up jobs in the city we are moving to.

    I will look at subletting options though.

    Thank you to the poster who said moving in can work if you just have faith. Not every relationship goes by a mold.

    Out of curiosity, how much money do you think it takes to survive for four months?

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