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Best online commodities trading firm?

iostreamiostream Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi fellow PAers,

I'm interested in starting out in this field: trading commodities online. Do you guys know of any reputable (most important!) and low-cost firm which provides this service?

I'm currently residing in Canada.

This is my first time trying something like this. I'd imagine that length of operation, cost per transaction, reputability, minimum account setup amount, ease of use etc matters? What other factors are there to consider?

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If it's your first time trading commodities you might want to look into securitized commodities. There are publicly traded funds that attempt to track commodity price movement by purchasing futures (oil, livestock, food), or that hold reserves of the commodity (precious metals) up to the amount purchased by fund shareholders. There are also funds that hold multiple commodities/futures and purchasing shares of that kind of fund results in holding a "basket" of commodities (industrial metals and ores).

    These types of funds have high liquidity and are already available to the retail investor via your brokerage.

    They are not as pure a play as directly owning commodities/futures, but then you don't have to deal with vetting new brokerage, educating yourself on trading a new security and the risks involved, nor are there any commodity storage or delivery concerns.


    Some things don't become apparent until you've tried them. I recall being quite frustrated a couple of times when trying to execute options during periods of turmoil/high volatility and volume. I noticed it's sometimes harder to get an option executed during these times, and it may be a longer wait on the phone to get an associate.

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  • iostreamiostream Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Thanks Djeet, that was quite a bit of info.

    What brokerage do you use and is it online-based?

    I have never used a brokerage before, so to me any brokerage is a new brokerage.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I have accounts at both Vanguard and Fidelity. Both financial institutions allow transactions online or through the phone-in desk. Online transactions are cheaper than phone-in.

    I believe Pershing LLC actually handles the brokerage accounts for Vanguard and I'm not sure who does the same for Fidelity. Regardless of who actually is performing the brokerage, to check balances or setup online trades I go to vanguard.com or fidelity.com.

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  • TreelootTreeloot Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you don't have a whole lot money and you're just looking into trading commodity based ETFs or something, Vanguard and Fidelity aren't very good choices. Vanguard's trading fees are unbelievably high ($25 a trade unless you have over $100,000 in your account) while Fidelity charges a $20 fee with some exceptions (I can't find much info on their site, but the $8 fee they quote only applies under certain circumstances).

    I use Scottrade for my broker. They charge $7 a trade and don't have any nonsense fees. If you're interested in using Scottrade PM me and I'll give you a code for some free trades.

    If you're looking to trade commodity futures and options I have no idea what broker to recommend. I don't think Vanguard or Scottrade let you trade commodity futures and options, and Fidelity might not either.


    That said, commodities trading can be extremely risky. Do you have a good idea of what you're getting into here?

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