My favorite company has been reborn as a publishing giant this generation

TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Games and Technology
We're about midway through this console generation, so I guess it's ok to start talking about how certain companies have preformed so far. Namely, this one:

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The house that Sonic built has been on absolute FIRE this generation as a publisher. I've been following Sega since 1986 and the Sega Master System, and this generation has seen them rise as one of the premiere publishers. Mind you, Sega has always been a great publisher (they cleverly masked this in the Genesis days by publishing new, jointly-owned IPs with companies such as Toejam & Earl Productions Inc and most famously Treasure), but the types of publishing deals they've made this generation is unrivaled in their history. Lets take a look at what Sega has done this generation that others haven't.

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Obviously, this is the banner partnership for Sega this generation. It really was an enormous coup - Sega effectively stole the brightest stars away from Capcom. And their output so far has been fantastic - MadWorld was ridiculously fun. Here's what we got coming from Platinum Games via Sega:

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MadWorld

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Bayonetta

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Infinite Space

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A completely overlooked publishing deal this generation has been Sega's partnership with Obsidian entertainment. While the loss of the Aliens RPG is deeply saddening, the more important project, Alpha Protocol, keeps marching on. In addition, Sega has a deal with Obsidian to publish an unannounced RPG.

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Alpha Protocol

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Controversial is how I'd describe this publishing deal, as it seems like no one would give High Voltage a chance, except for my boys in blue. Of course, we all know whats coming from this publishing deals:

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The Conduit

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The exigence for this topic. A major publishing deal. Can you remember the last time these guys worked with anybody BESIDES Square-Enix? I can't. Sega is set to publish Tri-aces new upcoming RPG, and my oh my do the screenshots look impressive.

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End of Eternity

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Whats interesting about these publishing deals is how similar they are to the Genesis era publishing deals. Much like the cases of Toejam & Earl and all of Treasures output, Sega owns all of the IPs listed above. Make no mistake, these games are wholey owned by Sega.

In addition to ramping up their publishing profile, Sega has also given outstanding output to the playstation 3. Their interally developed PS3 output is nothing short of mindblowing:

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I for one have enjoyed watching Sega this generation, and I look forward to seeing what they shock me with next.

EDIT: And, to be sure, these aren't the ONLY publishing deals Sega has been involved with, just the most high profile. Their work with Gearbox, for example, is very promising.

EDIT AGAIN: And for old times sake: SEEEEEEE-GAAAAAA

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I am so excited for Infinite Space despite not having heard anything new about it in months.

    You might say I am awaiting it with infinite anticipation.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Don't forget, there is a 4th SECRET platinum games product in the works. Shinji Mikami's secret labor of love.

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  • Mr_GrinchMr_Grinch Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Madworld is awesome. I need to give Valkyria Chronicles a try but I don't have that much time :)

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Maybe I need a better EoE screenshot to get this thread going:
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    Spoiler'd for HScroll.

    It's worth noting that the director for EoF is the same director as Valkyrie Profile 2. He was also the planner for Final Fantasy Tactics.

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  • WibodWibod Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Maybe I need a better EoE screenshot to get this thread going:
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    Spoiler'd for HScroll.

    It's worth noting that the director for EoF is the same director as Valkyrie Profile 2. He was also the planner for Final Fantasy Tactics.

    Bought so fucking hard with this revelation.

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh cool, a game named after my very first internet name (EoE) when I was a boy.

    The more I see Bayonetta, the more I want to play it. I realize it's utter ridiculousness, but it might be fun.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    No agreement? Disagreement? Contempt? Adoration?

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Do you really want contempt? I mean, I have little so far for SEGA the publisher, but I could rile some up for SEGA the developer, if that's what you really want.

    Also, not enough mention of SEGA's best selling game this generation, as in, you didn't mention it at all.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    End of eternity looks good actually.

    Really though, the only thing I want out of Sega is a Valkyria chronicles 2.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'd like non-mindless discussion. If you can rile up contempt for sega the publisher that actually has merit, then yeah, I'd like to hear it before I shoot you down.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's really a shame that Sega's own IPs continue to be driven into the ground, excluding maybe Yakuza.

    Well, and Initial D is still solid, but it's not like they plan on releasing the console/portable versions here(which is a grand show of stupidity).

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Ok then I have one.

    Publishing a Tri-Ace game is basically a waste of money. They don't do particularly well at retail and they haven't made anything good since VP2.

    Also even if the publisher SEGA has the IP rights to this stuff doesn't mean they could make something as good as Mad World without Platinum Games.

    Sega really fucked up Sonic and the Black Knight, doubly depressing considering the baby steps they made with Secret Rings.

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  • Mr PinkMr Pink I got cats for youRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I don't know if this counts or not, but Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection is probably one of the best game's I've gotten to review. I still play the hell out of it, unlike most of the titles we get sent.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm anxiously looking forward to seeing whether or not NIS America really managed to pull the rights to a Sakura Taisen game(V) away from Sega for localization.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also even if the publisher SEGA has the IP rights to this stuff doesn't mean they could make something as good as Mad World without Platinum Games.

    Sega has made BETTER games than MadWorld this generation. Namely Yakuza 3.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    SEEEE-GAAAAA


    MadWorld is so fucking good.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also even if the publisher SEGA has the IP rights to this stuff doesn't mean they could make something as good as Mad World without Platinum Games.

    Sega has made BETTER games than MadWorld this generation. Namely Yakuza 3.

    Haven't played it yet, so I can't say anything about it. Yakuza the original was pretty good though.

    Also VC isn't that good, but saying it around here is tantamount to suicide.

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  • plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    As a publisher they've been fantastic this generation. Made some ballsy moves, and I hope they pay off.

    And I'll also add my name to the "madworld was incredible" brigade.

    I do wish their internal output was as up to scratch. Sonic and the Black Knight was incredibly bad, first game in years I've returned within a week. It hurt too, because early signs were that it might work excellently, and it ended up being worse than unleashed :/

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So excited for Alpha Protocol and Bayonetta this gen.

    So excited

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also even if the publisher SEGA has the IP rights to this stuff doesn't mean they could make something as good as Mad World without Platinum Games.

    Sega has made BETTER games than MadWorld this generation. Namely Yakuza 3.

    Haven't played it yet, so I can't say anything about it. Yakuza the original was pretty good though.

    Also VC isn't that good, but saying it around here is tantamount to suicide.

    I've imported it and I've been going through it, extremely slowly, using a japanese-english dictionary. I'm 4th year japanese, and I know enough to play the game. Thus far, it's been a blast. Excellent game.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What's the deal with End of Eternity anyway? Just another JRPG or is it something else?

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Antihippy wrote: »
    What's the deal with End of Eternity anyway? Just another JRPG or is it something else?

    Early signs show that it's a JRPG that plays similarly to parasite eve, being directed by the planner for Final Fantasy Tactics and the director of VP2.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's a shame Yakuza's pretty much taken over for Shenmue, especially with Yu gone.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    How does parasite eve play?

    I've never played them before.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Antihippy wrote: »
    How does parasite eve play?

    I've never played them before.

    It's my all-time favorite RPG battle system. It was a mix of real time and turn based. Almost SRPG like. Look it up on youtube.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Parasite Eve has random battles which play out like a mini action game. Aya can run around and shoot things in real time.

    The sequel just made it into straight survival horror.


    The first one's still really good to this day.

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  • darksteeldarksteel Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh, hey, didn't SEGA also publish Empire: Total War? Which is a pretty big hit and a fantastic game to boot? Gotta put that in the OP I think.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Still no mention of the best button masher ever, Mario and Sonic at the Olympics! For shame, TSR, for Shame!

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    darksteel wrote: »
    Oh, hey, didn't SEGA also publish Empire: Total War? Which is a pretty big hit and a fantastic game to boot? Gotta put that in the OP I think.

    Now just published, but developed. Sega owns The Creative Assembly. Empire: Total War was internally developed.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Alright, Sega Rant! Here we go!

    First off, to get the hate out of the way: As it should be well-known, I hate Sonic. I think it's both a poor concept and poorly executed. I hate the mascot itself, which is about as Generic Late '80s/Early '90s "Attitude" as you can get, and it's been a sick pleasure of mine to watch the franchise crash and burn over the last decade or so.

    Now to switch it back to the love: Sega has seen such a huge turnaround in my eyes this generation.

    - They continue to do well (in terms of quality if not sales) with Virtua Fighter. Virtua Fighter 5 remains my favorite fighter this generation, just as VF4 Evo did in the previous one. Sega-developed and published.

    - Valkyria Chronicles was the best damn game of 2008. Sega-developed and published.

    - While I didn't enjoy MadWorld (a bit too repetitive for me), I still agree with the whole Platinum Games acquisition. Bayonetta looks pretty damn fun and I'm hoping it performs well.

    - Heard nothing but praise for Yakuza, and it looks really damn solid. Sadly, I never got to play 1 or 2, so even if 3 came out here I wouldn't pick it up for story purposes. Sega-developed and published.

    - Alpha Protocol is a day-one purchase for me and looks amazingly solid. Teaming up with Obsidian is a good thing.

    - Between MadWorld and the upcoming The Conduit, they're a third-party publisher that's actually trying to get a foothold on more (sorry) "hardcore" games on the Wii, which is something I can fully get behind.

    - Condemned and Condemned 2? Good games.

    - An unknown Silicon Knights project they're working with. Despite Too Human, Eternal Darkness was good enough that I still have faith.

    - Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection is the best gaming deal since The Orange Box. I grew up an SNES kid, and never realized just how many solid Genesis games I was missing. Seriously guys, if you haven't picked it up yet, do so. Over 40 games for $30, and at least half are really good.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    - An unknown Silicon Knights project they're working with. Despite Too Human, Eternal Darkness was good enough that I still have faith.

    I've heard it is "crazy violent"

    Like as in "way more violent than MadWorld".

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited April 2009
    There's also Phantasy Star Portable, which actually beat Monster Hunter a couple of times in monthly sales for Japan (a fairly impressive feat). Again, developed by a third party and published by SEGA. The English version of the game just carted over here last month, to rave reviews.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Parasite Eve has random battles which play out like a mini action game. Aya can run around and shoot things in real time.

    The sequel just made it into straight survival horror.


    The first one's still really good to this day.

    The battles aren't random, nor do you shoot in real time. It's ATB based, and when you do fire your weapons, time freezes and you get a Final Fantsy-esq battle menu, and an SRPG-like attack range.

    But it's still sort of real time in that you move around any time you're not selecting an attack, and you can dodge enemy attacks.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Whoa holy shit this is the first I've seen or heard about End of Eternity but that looks pretty cool.

    And it's similar to Parasite Eve, you say?

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Whoa holy shit this is the first I've seen or heard about End of Eternity but that looks pretty cool.

    And it's similar to Parasite Eve, you say?

    Speculation at this point. The battle system hasn't been shown in motion nor described in detail, but screenshots of it certainly look a lot like Parasite eve, and we know you'll be able to move around.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Parasite Eve has random battles which play out like a mini action game. Aya can run around and shoot things in real time.

    The sequel just made it into straight survival horror.


    The first one's still really good to this day.

    The battles aren't random, nor do you shoot in real time. It's ATB based, and when you do fire your weapons, time freezes and you get a Final Fantsy-esq battle menu, and an SRPG-like attack range.

    But it's still sort of real time in that you move around any time you're not selecting an attack, and you can dodge enemy attacks.

    Vagrant Story has a similar battle system. But I think more people played Parasite Eve than Vagrant Story, so it doesn't do much good to mention it.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Renzo wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Parasite Eve has random battles which play out like a mini action game. Aya can run around and shoot things in real time.

    The sequel just made it into straight survival horror.


    The first one's still really good to this day.

    The battles aren't random, nor do you shoot in real time. It's ATB based, and when you do fire your weapons, time freezes and you get a Final Fantsy-esq battle menu, and an SRPG-like attack range.

    But it's still sort of real time in that you move around any time you're not selecting an attack, and you can dodge enemy attacks.

    Vagrant Story has a similar battle system. But I think more people played Parasite Eve than Vagrant Story, so it doesn't do much good to mention it.

    Speaking of Vagrant Story, the director of EoE was the director of Vagrant Story as well. The dude has been pretty solid in his career. The only VP he directed (VP2) is easily the best in the series.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I couldn't stand VP2.

    The voices and the cutscenes made me what to gag myself.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Great battle system though.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It was alright.

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