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Hey guys. I need help with my hair. Now, I dont really have a picture of it, so my apologies, but I think I can describe things sufficiently.
My main problem with it is that it's really easy to muss up. It's super fine and just basically really lightweight, which is mostly okay I guess. I mean, is it? I'm not even sure. I know nothing about grooming. Only hygiene. Anyway I would almost call it feathery. I love the texture, but holy shit it is hard to keep under control.
My ultimate goal here is to grow it out. Assuming that I'll be able to pull it off.
I was also curious. Would a curl help? Or would it probably look all shitty?
I'm assuming you're female? My girlfriend has what I can guess from your description is similar hair - fine, straight, lightweight. She keeps it from between shoulder to upper-back length, and even if I manage to mess it up it tends to fall back into place. Conditioner may give it this ability.
I have the exact same problem as you with my hair, you're right - its a pain.
One of the ways you can counter having lightweight hair is by having it one length so that there's more weight to it, however this can often look a bit dull and boring if you've had the style for years. My own style has a few layers and I counter the fact it becomes messy easily in the wind by putting a light about of hairspray on. This is good because it holds the shape easier, but don't put lots on as you can end up looking like your hair is a helmet. The best thing I suggest doing is picking a style you like, though be aware that having fine hair some styles may no be available to you as they could need more/thicker hair. Look in magazines. Hairdressers I’m sure will be able to recommend how to keep the style from messing up easily.
As for the curl, its certainly a possibility as this could "hold together" the hair so to speak. I'd try it out with curling tongs/get a pro to do it before opting for a full perm though. I wouldn't recommend conditioner as it tends to make the hair smoother, which can cause it become more static and flyaway which isn't what you want. I would recommend a volumising shampoo, or one for flyaway hair.
Do volumizing shampoos work? Really? I always thought they were the shampoo equivalent of "whitening" toothpaste. I will definitely look into them.
Im not really talking about growing my hair to shoulder length. I'm talking about what's called 'classic length'. Which is the point where my butt joins my legs. See, if I just kept my hair straight at that length, it would probably look like hell. But maybe with a light curl and a volumizing shampoo? Potentially?
For right now it's shorter than that. I think it's a little longer in the back than it is in the front, because the back brushes against the base of my neck, and in the front it's at about the tip of my nose.
I've had hair of various ridiculously long lengths over the years, but up until last October it was at what you are calling 'classic length'. I also have very fine hair, but it's extremely thick and straight so your results may vary from my advice, but I wanted to fill you in anyways.
Growing hair that long takes years, it probably took me four years to go from shoulder- to butt-length. When your hair is that long, volumizing shampoos do not really do much because the length of the hair is super-heavy, and what's more you'll probably not want to wash it everyday as that makes it incredibly dry and brittle.
While ladies have a plethora of styling options to combat the long-hair flatness, most of the guys I've known with hair that length end with it pulled back in a braid or a ponytail. The curl (perm?) might work, but I've also seen it pulled almost straight by the weight of the hair.
That being said, ideas to help you grow it out: get regular trims, about a half and inch at a time so the ends don't look scraggly and gross; find a good conditioner that works with your hair type; don't use a blowdrier or other heated devices very often; and make sure your diet is good, it has a larger effect on healthy hair grows than you would think.
And in case you're wondering, I did end up cutting it off because it was such a huge pain to upkeep and am now the happy owner of a chin-length bob.
Do volumizing shampoos work? Really? I always thought they were the shampoo equivalent of "whitening" toothpaste. I will definitely look into them.
Im not really talking about growing my hair to shoulder length. I'm talking about what's called 'classic length'. Which is the point where my butt joins my legs. See, if I just kept my hair straight at that length, it would probably look like hell. But maybe with a light curl and a volumizing shampoo? Potentially?
For right now it's shorter than that. I think it's a little longer in the back than it is in the front, because the back brushes against the base of my neck, and in the front it's at about the tip of my nose.
Volumising shampoos do work, and you can get them the same price as normal shampoos, you don't need to get a specific brand. However, your hair won't go from thin to thick overnight, it'll just seem less flat – and that’s with a short-middle length. Be aware of shampoos which volumise using silicon as it can leave impurities on your hair, which will have to be cleansed from time to time. Here's a link to someone asking about if it damages your hair.
You're growing your hair longer than I thought, what Usagi said is right about the length making it heavy and right I think.
I've had great luck with hair wax to control my hair. Put a bit on your hands, ruffle up your hair to get it everywhere, and blowdry and comb it through.
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Does it help if I say that even though I'm a guy, I'm not just gonna let it shag out? I'm not going for the rockstar look here. So, depending on what they are and how they end up looking, lady-type styling options may or may not be on the table. What kind of things are you talking about? Spare nothing, because something mildly to semi-moderately 'fem' is basically fine by me.
Edit: I'm also trying to avoid curls through perms because I've heard that this makes the hair incredibly unhealthy forever after, and i'd rather that not happen.
But of course! Though considering how long your hair is now, you'll have plenty of time to consult with your stylist before you get to that point.
If your hair is especially thin and flat, the all-one-length option is pretty good. It gives you the possibility of curling or braiding it for body, or even just using a roller brush and a blowdryer. Also is the layered look, which requires a bit more upkeep to not let it get shagged out but provides more body than the all-one-length. I'm not a big fan of perms, but they are available using large diameter rollers so that could work, but I think they're smelly and generally don't look that nice.
I agree with that. I like my hair to smell nice, and if I have a lot of hair, and it gets permed, then I'm going to walk around smelling like a chemical bath.
Can we talk about shampoo/conditioner? What am I looking for? Do I have to buy that 10+ dollar a bottle shit or does the $5.00 stuff work?
It really is personal preference, but I ended up using the more expensive salon-type products because my hair was drying out and frizzing like crazy. For a long time plain old Pantene worked great, but then I moved up to Paul Mitchell awapuhi (sp?) and eventually Davines Nou Nou which is $$$$ but just the best thing ever.
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One of the ways you can counter having lightweight hair is by having it one length so that there's more weight to it, however this can often look a bit dull and boring if you've had the style for years. My own style has a few layers and I counter the fact it becomes messy easily in the wind by putting a light about of hairspray on. This is good because it holds the shape easier, but don't put lots on as you can end up looking like your hair is a helmet. The best thing I suggest doing is picking a style you like, though be aware that having fine hair some styles may no be available to you as they could need more/thicker hair. Look in magazines. Hairdressers I’m sure will be able to recommend how to keep the style from messing up easily.
As for the curl, its certainly a possibility as this could "hold together" the hair so to speak. I'd try it out with curling tongs/get a pro to do it before opting for a full perm though. I wouldn't recommend conditioner as it tends to make the hair smoother, which can cause it become more static and flyaway which isn't what you want. I would recommend a volumising shampoo, or one for flyaway hair.
Do volumizing shampoos work? Really? I always thought they were the shampoo equivalent of "whitening" toothpaste. I will definitely look into them.
Im not really talking about growing my hair to shoulder length. I'm talking about what's called 'classic length'. Which is the point where my butt joins my legs. See, if I just kept my hair straight at that length, it would probably look like hell. But maybe with a light curl and a volumizing shampoo? Potentially?
For right now it's shorter than that. I think it's a little longer in the back than it is in the front, because the back brushes against the base of my neck, and in the front it's at about the tip of my nose.
Growing hair that long takes years, it probably took me four years to go from shoulder- to butt-length. When your hair is that long, volumizing shampoos do not really do much because the length of the hair is super-heavy, and what's more you'll probably not want to wash it everyday as that makes it incredibly dry and brittle.
While ladies have a plethora of styling options to combat the long-hair flatness, most of the guys I've known with hair that length end with it pulled back in a braid or a ponytail. The curl (perm?) might work, but I've also seen it pulled almost straight by the weight of the hair.
That being said, ideas to help you grow it out: get regular trims, about a half and inch at a time so the ends don't look scraggly and gross; find a good conditioner that works with your hair type; don't use a blowdrier or other heated devices very often; and make sure your diet is good, it has a larger effect on healthy hair grows than you would think.
And in case you're wondering, I did end up cutting it off because it was such a huge pain to upkeep and am now the happy owner of a chin-length bob.
Volumising shampoos do work, and you can get them the same price as normal shampoos, you don't need to get a specific brand. However, your hair won't go from thin to thick overnight, it'll just seem less flat – and that’s with a short-middle length. Be aware of shampoos which volumise using silicon as it can leave impurities on your hair, which will have to be cleansed from time to time. Here's a link to someone asking about if it damages your hair.
You're growing your hair longer than I thought, what Usagi said is right about the length making it heavy and right I think.
Edit: I'm also trying to avoid curls through perms because I've heard that this makes the hair incredibly unhealthy forever after, and i'd rather that not happen.
If your hair is especially thin and flat, the all-one-length option is pretty good. It gives you the possibility of curling or braiding it for body, or even just using a roller brush and a blowdryer. Also is the layered look, which requires a bit more upkeep to not let it get shagged out but provides more body than the all-one-length. I'm not a big fan of perms, but they are available using large diameter rollers so that could work, but I think they're smelly and generally don't look that nice.
Can we talk about shampoo/conditioner? What am I looking for? Do I have to buy that 10+ dollar a bottle shit or does the $5.00 stuff work?
Any personal recommendations?