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Recommend me a book!

Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
All of my beloved old books are packed in boxes in my parents' garage, and I am sick and goddamned tired of re-reading the half-dozen books I brought to my apartment with me. So, now that I'm done with my winter classes, I have decided to treat myself to a new book or two.

But I don't know what to get. I have pretty picky taste in literature, so when I find an author I like, I tend to read everything they've ever written, then I get stuck until someone I trust recommends a new author. The good people of PA seem to be pretty classy folks, though, so I am hoping you will come up with some good things for me.

Things I Like

Well-written fantasy, ie: George R.R. Martin, Guy Gavriel Kay, Patrick Rothfuss, Steven Erikson, R.E. Howard. I like the nicely crafted stuff, with the detailed worlds and intelligent plots and interesting characters and systems of magic that actually follow sensible rules. I'm not wild on the schlocky, Dragonlance-style swords-and-sorcery junk like Wheel of Time or Wizard's First Rule.

Thought-provoking science fiction, ie: Richard Morgan, Robert Sawyer, Vernor Vinge, Frank Herbert, Dan Simmons, Neil Stephenson. Not the most literary stuff in the world, but I like the concepts behind some of this stuff - science fiction is, for me, at its best when it follows the formula of "what would the world be like if... X?" Again, not really a fan of space operas which just substitute !FUTURE! things for modern things (spaceships instead of cars, destructo-rays instead of guns, etc).

Reasonably authentic historical fiction, ie: Rosemary Sutcliff, Patrick O'Brien. I love the Jack Aubrey series, and I would really enjoy picking up something else in that vein, but it's a kind of murky field - for every detailed depiction of Napoleonic warfare, there's a horribly-written piece of dreck putatively set in the ancient Greek empire, yet featuring characters who talk and think and swear exactly like modern-day American high school jocks.

So, tl;dr: recommend me good fantasy, sci-fi, or historical fiction. If I've mentioned an author by name, it's safe to assume I've read all their stuff already.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    you mentioned niel stephenson and, if you haven't read his new book Anathem, i would highly recommend it. also neuromancer by william gibson

    edit: also as nerdy as this probably sounds... the magic the gathering series was really good as far as fantasy goes. there were a few not so great books, but most of them are pretty amazing

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell is some quite enjoyable fantasy and historical fiction, so that's two genres you like right there. About a couple magicians during the Napoleonic wars that revive magic after it's fallen out of use for centuries.

    An author I'd highly recommend for the setting is Terry Pratchett. The Discworld series is a wonderful collection. Pick up Small Gods or Monstrous Regiment to see if it's something you'd enjoy since they're good standalones.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Anything by William Gibson would be good. Bruce Sterling too.

    Ringworld series by Larry Niven. (Hard sci-fi)

    Lucifer's Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle. (comet apocalypse fiction)

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Esslemont's Malazan books Night of Knives and Return of the Crimson Guard are good if you're desperate for more of that world. The second half of the second book in particular is excellent, and you can read them in any order really.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Quid wrote: »
    Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell is some quite enjoyable fantasy and historical fiction, so that's two genres you like right there. About a couple magicians during the Napoleonic wars that revive magic after it's fallen out of use for centuries.

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    I will never understand how people enjoyed this book. I put up with the first 100 pages or so, and my god is it boring. It's written in a very particular style, harkening to victorian/british lit, so if you dig that, you might enjoy it.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I enjoyed reading Alan Campbell's Deepgate books (Scar Night and Iron Angel). Set in a steam-punk/fantasy kind of world.
    In the city of Deepgate, suspended by chains over a seemingly bottomelss abyss there are two angels: one, an untested boy, the last of his line; the other, a psychotic murderer mad for revenge-or redemption. When one of the city's own turns against its people, bringing enemies to its doorstep, both seek a powerful magic at the bottom of the chasm- and learn what lies below is far more sinsiter then they've been taught to expect

    I'd also recomend the Caine books by Stover, but I'm fairly certain you've read them already, at least I seem to recall you recomending them in similar threads in the past. Course, my memory is crap, so I could be wrong. If you haven't read them, pick up Heroes Die, Blade of Tyshalle and Caine Black Knife.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    noir_blood wrote: »
    Quid wrote: »
    Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell is some quite enjoyable fantasy and historical fiction, so that's two genres you like right there. About a couple magicians during the Napoleonic wars that revive magic after it's fallen out of use for centuries.

    .

    I will never understand how people enjoyed this book. I put up with the first 100 pages or so, and my god is it boring. It's written in a very particular style, harkening to victorian/british lit, so if you dig that, you might enjoy it.
    Really? I enjoyed it the whole time. Especially once the war got started and the two started to really differ.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    100:1 says you've already read this, and it's old hat for most people, but I was bored the other night and read Ender's Game again.

    That's a really good book.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Sci-fi that isn't just spaceships instead of cars: William Gibson, Iain M. Banks, The Mote in God's Eye, Jack McDevitt, Robert Heinlein, Philip K. Dick, Stanislaw Lem, Johnathan Lethem, Michael Chabon, Jorge Luis Borges, Kurt Vonnegut.

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  • lifeincognitolifeincognito Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I suggest the Saga of Recluce series written by L.E. Modesitt, Jr. While not the best books in the world, they have a very interesting concept of magic and locations get pretty sweet names. I read a whole bunch of them, but then just stopped for some reason. I'll have to pick up where I left off I suppose.

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Have you read Dan Simmons's other fiction? The Terror was good, and I've heard a fair bit for praise for his newest book, Drood. They're both historical fiction, with horror elements similar to what you'd have seen in Hyperion. He has a pretty big back category of stuff too, from what I understand.

    China Mieville is good for fantasy. Wacky steampunk stuff.

    Richard Morgan has a fantasy book out now, but I don't know if it's any good.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    It's not D&D fantasy, but American Gods is a great read.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So hows about historical sci-fi?

    The Temeraire series by Naomi Novik is quality. Basically its what if the colonial wars were fought with dragon aerial corps

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  • ZirikkiZirikki Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You may have already read them, but Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series is a good read.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned The Count of Monte Cristo.

    Its just an amazing book, period, but make sure you read the full version instead of a lobotomized abridged copy.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    The Uplift series by David Brin.

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  • LeptonLepton Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Neil Gaiman

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  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Anything by Niel Gaiman, seriously.

    Also Vonnegut and for realsies, Isaac Asimov and H.G.Wells. You have to get some of that going on.

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Every time I thought of an author to recommend, you mentioned him in your post. It makes recommendations tricky (but you've got great taste in books).

    How about "The Bull from the Sea" and the other Alexander books (Mary Renault, I think).

    The Ramage series and the Hornblower novels are very Aubrey-esque (although darker in tone).

    Jack Whyte's "Dream of Eagles" series (set in Arthurian Britain as it could actually have been -- maybe) is wonderful.

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Kyougu wrote: »
    It's not D&D fantasy, but American Gods is a great read.

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  • ZoolanderZoolander Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I liked the First Law series (fantasy). It's not a detailed-world type thing, but the books are well-written and breezy. The characters and the humour are really top-notch. I'd say this series has the best characters in fantasy besides ASoIaF.

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  • InvisibleInvisible Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Zoolander wrote: »
    I liked the First Law series (fantasy). It's not a detailed-world type thing, but the books are well-written and breezy. The characters and the humour is really top-notch. I'd say this series has the best characters in fantasy besides ASoIaF.

    Interesting. Amazon keeps recommending those books to me based upon my ASoIaF purchases, but I have a serious distrust of most fantasy so I just assumed it was likely crap. Looks like I have something to look forward to after I finish reading the "last" two ASoIaF books (on A Storm of Swords right now).

    Edit: It's not exactly intellectual reading, but Michael Crichton's books tend to be interesting science fiction. Jurassic Park, The Lost World, Andromeda Strain and some others are fun reads and much better than the movies based upon them. Some of his mystery/thriller works aren't half-bad either, Rising Sun, Airframe and A Case of Need. And he does base his works on some portion of reality, at least on his later books he includes a fairly detailed bibliography.

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Johnny Got His Gun is probably my favorite historical fiction. It has a bit of an absurd premise*, but uses it to tell the most intense first-person narrative I've ever read. It also feels extremely authentic.


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    (a man gets caught in a shelling in WWI and loses his hearing, sight, ability to speak, and all of his limbs)

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Philip K Dick is my favorite sci fi author by leaps and bounds. He's what all sci fi should be.

    Definitely check out A Scanner Darkly or Do Androids Dream of Electric sheep.

    Also, have you read the great dystopian novels? 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451...They're all worth it if you haven't read them.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I second the Philp K. Dick suggestion- great great mind bending (but also usually legitment mind bending ) stories from that man.

    I'd also suggest V., Gravities Rainbow, and Against the Day by Pynchon. They are all incredibly epic (and, it has to be said, often confusing) but ultimately rewarding reads. He's seriously one of the greatest writers around, you just need to invest some time in his work before you get to reap the benefits (but reap them you will)

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  • TrinisTrinis Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    LavaKnight wrote: »
    Philip K Dick is my favorite sci fi author by leaps and bounds. He's what all sci fi should be.

    Definitely check out A Scanner Darkly or Do Androids Dream of Electric sheep.

    Also, have you read the great dystopian novels? 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451...They're all worth it if you haven't read them.

    Everyone should read those last three. I fourth or fifth the recommendation of Phillip K. Dick, especially Valis, my favorite. Maybe because I read it first, but I really love it. H.G. Wells is a solid recommendation as well, and I'll raise you a Jules Verne. The man imagined submarines and scuba gear so long before they existed it's amazing. Da Vinci style shit here.

    You said you didn't like shlock stuff like Dragonlance, but man I love some of the Star Wars novels. If you turn toward lighter reading like this I would recommend Tales of the Bounty Hunters as a nice start. Amazing short story collection as long as you're a Star Wars fan.

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  • clsCorwinclsCorwin Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    First Law, seriously? Personally, at first I loved the characters, but thought the author destroyed them by book 3 ruining all character development that had undergone.

    Recluse is a good series. It is fairly mediocre fantasy that is well crafted and does an excellent job of dealing with moral issues from the "good" and "evil" points of view, illustrating tons of shades of gray. Also, each book depicts a different era in the world, so you get a nice touch of history there.

    Jim Butcher's Codex Alera is some great fantasy, and will be complete once book 6 comes out around Thanksgiving.

    Now, though, now you need to go read Heroes Die by Matthew Woodring Stover. Its one of the best damn books I've read next to ASoIaF and its not your typical fantasy.

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  • DemerdarDemerdar Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    All of my beloved old books are packed in boxes in my parents' garage, and I am sick and goddamned tired of re-reading the half-dozen books I brought to my apartment with me. So, now that I'm done with my winter classes, I have decided to treat myself to a new book or two.

    But I don't know what to get. I have pretty picky taste in literature, so when I find an author I like, I tend to read everything they've ever written, then I get stuck until someone I trust recommends a new author. The good people of PA seem to be pretty classy folks, though, so I am hoping you will come up with some good things for me.

    Things I Like

    Well-written fantasy, ie: George R.R. Martin, Guy Gavriel Kay, Patrick Rothfuss, Steven Erikson, R.E. Howard. I like the nicely crafted stuff, with the detailed worlds and intelligent plots and interesting characters and systems of magic that actually follow sensible rules. I'm not wild on the schlocky, Dragonlance-style swords-and-sorcery junk like Wheel of Time or Wizard's First Rule.

    Thought-provoking science fiction, ie: Richard Morgan, Robert Sawyer, Vernor Vinge, Frank Herbert, Dan Simmons, Neil Stephenson. Not the most literary stuff in the world, but I like the concepts behind some of this stuff - science fiction is, for me, at its best when it follows the formula of "what would the world be like if... X?" Again, not really a fan of space operas which just substitute !FUTURE! things for modern things (spaceships instead of cars, destructo-rays instead of guns, etc).

    Reasonably authentic historical fiction, ie: Rosemary Sutcliff, Patrick O'Brien. I love the Jack Aubrey series, and I would really enjoy picking up something else in that vein, but it's a kind of murky field - for every detailed depiction of Napoleonic warfare, there's a horribly-written piece of dreck putatively set in the ancient Greek empire, yet featuring characters who talk and think and swear exactly like modern-day American high school jocks.

    So, tl;dr: recommend me good fantasy, sci-fi, or historical fiction. If I've mentioned an author by name, it's safe to assume I've read all their stuff already.

    I haven't read a single post in this thread, but if you enjoy thought-provoking fiction, I would definitely check out some of Phillip K. Dick's books. This man has more than a few crazy interesting books out there. Try Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and A Scanner Darkly.

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  • G-PrimeG-Prime Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    For Historical Fiction I would suggest the Hornblower series by C. S. Forester. They are in the same vein as the Aubrey–Maturin series. Another author I like in the genre is Bernard Cornwell. He has a vast amount of books, the biggest being the Sharpe series which is set during the Napoleonic war. He mostly deals with British history, but he has a couple that takes place in other areas of the world.

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Oh, I forgot to add the Flashman series (especially the earier ones). The consummate coward/cad who reels from one crisis to the next in (IIRC Napoleonic) England. Very funny, very cruel series.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Thanks for all the suggestions! Some of these I've already read, so I'll narrow my tastes down a bit more...

    Already Read and Liked
    Stover (everything, even the Star Wars books), Card (Ender's Game, Alvin Maker, standalones), Heinlein (everything), Mieville (Perdido Street Station, The Scar), Neil Gaiman (everything), Bradbury, Asimov, Welles, Verne, Crichton (early stuff was great, more recent stuff is not), Orwell, Huxley, pretty much anything else post-apocalyptic/dystopian

    Already Read and Didn't Really Like Very Much
    Gibson (Neuromancer), Pratchett (Small Gods, Mort), Novik (the first one in the series), Brin (some of his earlier stuff)

    Already Read and Didn't Like at All
    Clarke (Strange & Norrell), Vonnegut (Cat's Cradle, Galapagos)

    Haven't Read
    Sterling, Niven, Esslemont, Campbell, Banks, Dick, Modesitt, Butcher, Renault, Whyte, Abercrombie, Pynchon, Cornwell, Forester

    Looks like I have a few new things to try, at least. Any other recommendations?

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Stanislaw Lem.

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  • GafferoGaffero Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What about Arthur C. Clarke? 2001: A Space Odyssey is still among one of my favorite reads; unlike the Kubrick film, it's fairly straight forward except for the bit with HAL 9000
    where his logic fails and he can no longer conceal the true nature of the mission nor permit the current crew to endanger the outcome of the mission
    and he becomes homicidal
    which confuses most people on the first read. The ending, of course, is open-ended to a certain degree, but isn't that true of most good books?

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  • HypatiaHypatia Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you liked the Steven Erikson books then definitely get Esslemont's.

    Have you tried Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series? They're very well written but can be a turn-off for some people because the heroine is a courtesan spy, but at a guess I think you'd enjoy them. They also are based on a semi-separate historical timeline so there are often a lot of references to catch. The first one is Kushiel's Dart.

    Off the beaten path are Judith Tarr's books which I really love but aren't for everyone. The first trilogy is, well, here's a quote: "...Tarr's 'The Hound and the Falcon' trilogy is a work of alternate history, taking place in England during the reign of Richard I. Alf, a monk at St. Ruan's Abbey, is an elfin changeling left there as a baby, and despite his fair looks and that he never seems to age, only a few are aware of or suspect his true nature. When an injured rider arrives at the abbey one evening, it becomes Alf's turn to play the part of messenger and ambassador to Richard I in order to prevent war among neighboring lands." This trilogy is: The Isle of Glass, The Golden Horn, and The Hounds Of God. The other two books follow characters that are only mentioned in this trilogy (but in some ways they're more fun): Alamut, The Dagger and the Cross.

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  • EriicEriic Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You said that you enjoyed Ender's Game. Did you read the whole series or just that one book? The other books (Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind, etc) are just as good, if not better! :D

    Also, the Xanth books by Piers Anthony are pretty entertaining fantasy if you enjoy simple humor and tons of puns. There are like a zillion books in the series, so they are generally very easy to find at a used bookstore. :)

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  • exmelloexmello Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Robert Sawyer released the first book Wake in a new trilogy this month called WWW. You could also read/reread Flash Forward since ABC picked it up for a high budget TV series this fall that they're hyping to replace Lost.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Since you mentioned post-apocolypic novels, have you read McCarthy's The Road?

    It isn't terribly complex (or even well written 1/2 the time) but it is stunningly emotional and dark. Its worth a flip through at your local bookstore to see if you like it.

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  • clsCorwinclsCorwin Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    How about David Brin's The Postman?

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I don't know how well known this is but Jack L. Chalkers Soul Rider series is some really good sci-fi/fantasy stuff. Books are out of print but you can still find them as special orders.

    He has really created a truly unique world and the premise behind the whole thing is very, very neat. It's one of my favorite book series.

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  • clsCorwinclsCorwin Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Also, Heroes Die is set in a dystopian future, if that rings your bell a bit more.

    And C.S. Friedman's Coldfire Trilogy is very well done, with exceptionally intelligent villians and a very interesting system of magic and religion.

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