Buying my first guitar

Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I have always wanted to learn to play the guitar and I have decided to "unplug" for the summer. No tv, movies or games till September (except the new trek movie) and this seems like the perfect time. Now I have no musical talent whatsoever but I do want to learn. For my first guitar should I buy new or used? I see a lot of new guitars in the 200-300$ range canadian and looking on craigslist you can find some used in that price but seem to be more brand name and not Chinese imports.

On a side note how good are instructional videos for teaching the basics?

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  • ShawnaseeShawnasee Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Go into your local guitar/music store and tell them what you told us. Most mom and pop stores will steer you in the right direction. Stores like Guitar Center etc, will try to get you to buy something more expensive than you need.

    You shouldn't be paying more than $200-$300 for a good beginner guitar and you can get some good ones in that price range. To be honest, any old guitar will fit your needs as a beginner. What might benefit you is the "beginner specials" you can get at Wal Mart. They come with tutorials, picks, tuners and extra strings. Alternatively, you could just get all that at the M&P store you go to.

    Instructional videos I don't have any experience with (self taught) but I hear they can be pretty well done, depending, of course, on the instructor. Someone else will most likely be along to help you in that department.

    You'll be pretty good on the old git stick if you do nothing but play till September...tell us how that goes?
    Good luck...

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  • blakfeldblakfeld Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Good advice above.

    As far as learning goes, have fun playing, but keep in mind if it's something you want to do seriously, learn SOME of the music behind it. If nothing else at least where all the notes are on the guitar, that makes learning chords make a whole lot more sense, and if you know where the ntoes are, you can start to figure out the basics of theory, which later on will make the difference between a medicore guitar player and a fucking awesome player. Example, I've been playing for nigh on 9 years, and my roommate, who's been playing for 4 is considerably better than me, because he has had actual music training. Everything takes longer when you have to figure it out yourself.

    As far as if it's okay to buy used, hell yes it is. In fact, for your first guitar, I wouldn't consider new. I've had good luck with used stuff.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I suppose the biggest question for you is, do you want an acoustic or an electric. I know you said that you want to unplugg but... its my opinion that 200 dollar electrics are much much better than 200 dollar acoustics.

    Its much easier to get a good tone from an electric guitar (even if itsn't a great electric) than an acoustic for me atleast.

    Either way you go, make sure you learn music you enjoy and that you actually learn the concepts behind the music- it will be a ruff start but once you get past a certain "level" everything becomes much easier.

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Note: I'm not a very good guitar player

    That said I enjoy playing my classical acoustic more than my electric (Epiphone SG Special). I like the feel and sound of nylon strings, and I find that when you're playing on an electric, every little noise gets picked up. If you slightly brush against the strings, or when you're sliding, it just makes a lot of extra noise that I find is distracting.

    I would recommend you go into a guitar shop and play a little bit on an acoustic and a little bit on an electric to see what feels better to you.

    Also for your first guitar, you should go used and cheap until you know for sure if you're going to stick with it.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Classical guitars are nice- very nice actually, but I haven't played one in the 200-300 dollar range that I've really liked.

    But, if you can find one you might as well check it out. They have their own style of sound because of their strings, but if you like that go for it :)

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I actually have no idea how much classical acoustics are because this one just appeared in my basement one day (seriously).

    So I may be inadvertantly recommending something outside of the OP's price range.

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  • KlorgnumKlorgnum Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    My Yamaha APX500 (acoustic-electric) cost $290 Canadian new, and I like it. It's not perfect though, and I find the battery compartment rattles while I'm playing. There's also a buzzing sound that only I seem to be able to hear that showed up about six months after I'd gotten it. I don't know if that's an issue with the line in general or just mine. Apart from that, and the diminished bass response due to the thinner body, it's been a pretty solid instrument, and the price is right.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Reznik wrote: »
    I actually have no idea how much classical acoustics are because this one just appeared in my basement one day (seriously).

    So I may be inadvertantly recommending something outside of the OP's price range.

    Well, there are classical guitars in just about any price range... some of them just don't sound very good.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I don't think I want anything electric for the moment... Think I will stop by a music shop this weekend and see what they have.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Out of curiosity, what types of music to you like/ plan to learn? That will help guide what your first guitar should be.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Disco, where are you at in Canada? I might be able to point you toward a good deal (or at least a good shop). A fair bit of the advice above may not really be applicable to Canada, as guitar availability and the quality of mom and pop shops (in Ontario at least) is totally different from what you see in the States. There are, like, three guitar shops within 200k of Toronto that won't try to fuck you with a rake.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    In Calgary.... Looking to play some classic rock ideally... Going to start with puff the magic dragon first! lol

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  • JinglesJingles Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    This dude:

    http://www.justinguitar.com/

    Cheap acoustics are harder to play than higher end ones from what I hear, due to a high action. Barre chords are especially tough. Electric is easier on the fingers, plus you can make keeerrrrrraaaaannnnngggg noises. Which is important to me at least.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I always hear differing accounts on how much Guitar Center wants to rape you. Is it really that bad? I mean, I got my guitar at a Sam Ash, so I can't really judge their pushing of pricey guitars.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Disco11 wrote: »
    In Calgary.... Looking to play some classic rock ideally... Going to start with puff the magic dragon first! lol

    If you're looking at classic rock, an electric will probably be your best bet since you won't be able to get distortion with an acoustic (a key part of rock)- You'll still be able to enjoy the guitar I'm sure, but if you're at all intersted in keeping up with guitar playing you'll probably find yourself longing for that sweet electric sound to try and match the greats you're playing along with.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    ya that was I was thinking too.... My buddy has a 25 watt fender amp that he has never use that he is going to trade me for a few games and was thinking of getting this one. Opinions? http://www.axemusic.com/product.asp?P_ID=4190&strPageHistory=search&strKeywords=cheap,electric,guitars&numPageStartPosition=341&strSearchCriteria=all&PT_ID=all

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  • RikushixRikushix VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Long story short:

    Electric is easier to play than acoustic.
    But if you're learning for the first time, get an acoustic. Learn on an acoustic. This is regularly debated but more often than not accepted by expert guitar players.

    I have an acoustic Aria AW-35 that cost roughly 200-250 bucks; I don't remember how much, I bought it combined with my soft guitar case off my guitar instructor at the time for a 20 or 30% discount.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Disco11 wrote: »
    ya that was I was thinking too.... My buddy has a 25 watt fender amp that he has never use that he is going to trade me for a few games and was thinking of getting this one. Opinions? http://www.axemusic.com/product.asp?P_ID=4190&strPageHistory=search&strKeywords=cheap,electric,guitars&numPageStartPosition=341&strSearchCriteria=all&PT_ID=all

    I think they've mislabelled that, it's a Squier. If I had $300 I'd probably look for a second hand MIM (made in mexico) fender telecaster (although I'm not sure what the prices are like at the moment) so that might not be reasonable. My brother has an 80s telecaster, nice guitar.

    edit: It's just not in the headline bit, but is for all the other Squiers.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rikushix wrote: »
    Long story short:

    Electric is easier to play than acoustic.
    But if you're learning for the first time, get an acoustic. Learn on an acoustic. This is regularly debated but more often than not accepted by expert guitar players.

    I have an acoustic Aria AW-35 that cost roughly 200-250 bucks; I don't remember how much, I bought it combined with my soft guitar case off my guitar instructor at the time for a 20 or 30% discount.

    I'm of the opinion that you should get which ever guitar would be the most valueable/ cost saving to you. If you like rock music, get an electric but, when you are first learning play only with the clean channel when learning and distort it when you want to mess around.

    Really, the only thing an acoustic will do is toughen up your fingers faster but, that isn't a problem if you dont' play an acoustic since you won't need fingers that tough to play electic (or a decent acoustic- I've been playing for 8 years, the last 3 predominately on acoutic and I still don't have callouses in my fingers) and, if you want to strengthen your hands, you can buy muscle exercisers for 15 bucks or so.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Rook wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    ya that was I was thinking too.... My buddy has a 25 watt fender amp that he has never use that he is going to trade me for a few games and was thinking of getting this one. Opinions? http://www.axemusic.com/product.asp?P_ID=4190&strPageHistory=search&strKeywords=cheap,electric,guitars&numPageStartPosition=341&strSearchCriteria=all&PT_ID=all

    I think they've mislabelled that, it's a Squier. If I had $300 I'd probably look for a second hand MIM (made in mexico) fender telecaster (although I'm not sure what the prices are like at the moment) so that might not be reasonable. My brother has an 80s telecaster, nice guitar.

    edit: It's just not in the headline bit, but is for all the other Squiers.

    Squiers are great "first" electrics though (hell, I have one of these, and it beats my '71 Fender Tele in terms of raw playability), and $250 CAD is a really fair price for a Squier Standard -- I've never seen even an MIM Fender in Canada for under $350 CAD used.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm not sure about squires, the first one I got (about 8 years ago) was a peice of junk. I mean, I loved the hell out of it but I can't play that thing anymore. Some of my friends who started playing with packs from other companies have guitars that, while not 100% solid, are totally playable and something I wouldn't mind picking up myself for a college dorm room "soak up the damage so my really nice guitars don't have to" guitar if I had the extra 200

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • wasted pixelswasted pixels Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Nappuccino wrote: »
    I'm not sure about squires, the first one I got (about 8 years ago) was a peice of junk. I mean, I loved the hell out of it but I can't play that thing anymore. Some of my friends who started playing with packs from other companies have guitars that, while not 100% solid, are totally playable and something I wouldn't mind picking up myself for a college dorm room "soak up the damage so my really nice guitars don't have to" guitar if I had the extra 200

    Right now, I'd take a new Squier over a new MIM any day of the week. The Taiwan factory keeps getting better and better, and the Mexico factory (which is notorious for poor quality control) keeps getting worse and worse. The new Classic Vibe series Squiers are great for the money, and my li'l affinity Tele is just solid as hell. They're not going to replace my vintage axes any time soon, but they're great knockaround practice instruments. If you were playing a 90s Squier (which probably would have been made in the Mexico factory), you should check out the new China/Taiwan models, Squier is having their best run since the 80s.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Surveyor of Things and Stuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Well, its good to see they're improving. I guess I had such a bad experiance with my squire i never really thought about trying their newer lines.

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    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    There's also the possibility you just can't really grow a bear like other guys.

    Not even BEAR vaginas can defeat me!
    cakemikz wrote: »
    And then I rub actual cake on myself.
    Loomdun wrote: »
    thats why you have chest helmets
  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm glad that Squier is good now. I'm still wary of the necks falling off, but that might be those Best Buy/Costco 99 dollar guitars.

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