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Laptop got stolen; theft protection for future laptops?

mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey H/A,

So a few nights ago our house got broken into and a bunch of stuff was stolen, my laptop included. It was about 1.5 years old, needed a new battery, not really used, so I'm not too depressed over the ordeal. As I have insurance to cover it, though, I'll eventually get a new laptop, and protecting it from future theft is something I'll be looking into.

I've read about LoJack, which seems pretty reliable (HD reformats don't wipe the software) and it seems that if stolen, it will eventually connect to the internet. But, in truth, is the price for services like these worth it? Are there any good alternatives?

I'm aware that there is also a problem about the general security of our house, me/my housemates are looking into that.

tl;dr laptop was stolen, how should i protect my next laptop against theft?

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  • starlanceriistarlancerii Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're looking to protect your data, just encrypt your entire drive, I suggest truecrypt. If you want to protect the hardware, general security of your house is probably most effective.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If your credit cards were anywhere near your computer (ordering stuff online for example) either get a new card or keep an eye on the account and warn the CC company that there might be fraudulent charges in the future.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    bios password is the easiest way

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Hey thanks for the responses so far. Fortunately I didn't have any credit cards or anything nearby (and they seemed like they were just going after easy to sell stuff) so I'm safe in that regard.

    Passwords and stuff are good in the event that it is stolen and its made essentially worthless to them, but it still doesn't get the laptop back in my hands. Are there any good methods that can track a laptop via internet? Or is that in the realm of shady and usually ineffective business?

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    "I sent an e-mail asking why wood elves get +2 Str when other dwarves did not. My response from customer service consisted of five words: 'Wood elves are really strong.' "
  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mechaThor wrote: »
    Hey thanks for the responses so far. Fortunately I didn't have any credit cards or anything nearby (and they seemed like they were just going after easy to sell stuff) so I'm safe in that regard.

    Passwords and stuff are good in the event that it is stolen and its made essentially worthless to them, but it still doesn't get the laptop back in my hands. Are there any good methods that can track a laptop via internet? Or is that in the realm of shady and usually ineffective business?
    shady, possibly, not ineffective. problem is they have to be using the internet to track them and if they are locked out of the computer... year. could always hide a gps unit in there i guess

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  • Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    Truecrypt allows you to encrypt parts of the drive and conceal the fact that it is encrypted. If you want to encrypt important data, but still have a potential thief be able to boot into Windows than Truecrypt can do it.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Take your laptop to a hardware store, gun store, or locksmith and get a safe large enough to put the laptop in.

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  • Eat_FireEat_Fire Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    LoJack has a good track record on getting laptops back. Most of the time the culprit will just pawn your laptop or use it for themselves. Always make sure to register your laptop with the manufacturer so it cant be brought in for repair if its stolen.

    For physical security you can buy a laptop lock that essentially is a metal cable that secures the laptop to something like a bike chain. Should be able to pick one up from Bestbuy or another electronic store for $20-30

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Eat_Fire wrote: »
    LoJack has a good track record on getting laptops back. Most of the time the culprit will just pawn your laptop or use it for themselves. Always make sure to register your laptop with the manufacturer so it cant be brought in for repair if its stolen.

    For physical security you can buy a laptop lock that essentially is a metal cable that secures the laptop to something like a bike chain. Should be able to pick one up from Bestbuy or another electronic store for $20-30

    Yeah I'll definitely look into getting one of those cables for the future just for the extra physical security.

    Do you think that the manufacturer (Hewlett Packard in this case) would give two shits if I called them and reported it stolen? I have the key for the Windows Vista CD and the MAC address of the laptop -- could any of this information be used to prevent updates/repairs?

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I think a Claymore boobietrap is most effective at splatter... I mean preventing theft.

    Really though, physical security is just a matter of using sensible practices to avoid situations that are advantageous for a thief to have easy access. Don't leave it anywhere public, in your car, plain view etc...

    If it is stolen from your house, then there really isn't much you can do aside from lock it up in a safe. Since that was your case I really don't see much you could have done. If you have to lock up all of your equipment every time you leave your house I'd suggest finding a new neighborhood, or beefing up your home security.

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  • Funguy McAidsFunguy McAids Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I keep reading things about people getting stuff stolen and how to protect your shit. What a crappy way to live. is it just really un-safe in America or what?

    Having a physical lock and chain for a laptop is ridiculous. What's next? A solid iron-barred protective anti-thief cage?

    Society seriously needs some cleaning.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I keep reading things about people getting stuff stolen and how to protect your shit. What a crappy way to live. is it just really un-safe in America or what?

    Having a physical lock and chain for a laptop is ridiculous. What's next? A solid iron-barred protective anti-thief cage?

    Society seriously needs some cleaning.

    It's not just America.
    Most of the theft is just opportunistic. People get careless and leave things lying around. Most people are honest, but these days especially, people are resorting to things they would not otherwise do. Such as taking the risk of lifting some lonely electronics from a coffee shop table and pawning it.

    B&E though, like the OP had is just random chance really. Augmented by home security and how approachable his house was.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mechaThor wrote: »
    tl;dr laptop was stolen, how should i protect my next laptop against theft?

    http://www.mossberg.com/products/default.asp?id=3 ?

    Cable-lock it at home is the best way, if you have a desk or coffee table or whatever that's sturdy enough to discourage the smash-and-grab, just go that route.
    Do you think that the manufacturer (Hewlett Packard in this case) would give two shits if I called them and reported it stolen? I have the key for the Windows Vista CD and the MAC address of the laptop -- could any of this information be used to prevent updates/repairs?

    Vista CD no, MAC address possibly but they probably wouldn't be able to catch it as stolen unless the physical unit actually came in for service. And at that point you're probably catching the guy who bought it from eBay after it was gifted to the cousin of the person who originally bought the fenced unit at a pawn shop. You really need the S/N to make any progress, that's easily checked by someone with zero technical skills, ie 90% of pawnbrokers.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited April 2009
    supabeast wrote: »
    Take your laptop to a hardware store, gun store, or locksmith and get a safe large enough to put the laptop in.

    Man, finding a laptop bag to lug the safe around in is going to be a pain.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I carry a couple of these for my valuables.

    HD-73-2T.jpg

    Also provides excellent weight training.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    rfalias wrote: »
    I keep reading things about people getting stuff stolen and how to protect your shit. What a crappy way to live. is it just really un-safe in America or what?

    Having a physical lock and chain for a laptop is ridiculous. What's next? A solid iron-barred protective anti-thief cage?

    Society seriously needs some cleaning.

    It's not just America.
    Most of the theft is just opportunistic. People get careless and leave things lying around. Most people are honest, but these days especially, people are resorting to things they would not otherwise do. Such as taking the risk of lifting some lonely electronics from a coffee shop table and pawning it.

    B&E though, like the OP had is just random chance really. Augmented by home security and how approachable his house was.

    Yeah, it can really happen anywhere, though cities have it worse just b/c there are lots of people in a small space. I never really had an incidence with it until I spent a few months in London, and someone walked out of our flat with my roommate's laptop, my broken digital camera, and a single juggling ball (yeah I don't know). Weird thing was, the thief took the one PC laptop in the place, and had to walk past three shiny Mac laptops to get to it. I guess PCs are easier to fence (lucky for me).

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  • Eat_FireEat_Fire Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I keep reading things about people getting stuff stolen and how to protect your shit. What a crappy way to live. is it just really un-safe in America or what?

    Having a physical lock and chain for a laptop is ridiculous. What's next? A solid iron-barred protective anti-thief cage?

    Society seriously needs some cleaning.

    I wasn't sure if this is trolling just from this little blurb, but a look at your profile name confirmed it for me. H/A is looking a little tarnished these days.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Thanks for the advice so far. I'm meeting with the insurance company today to work out the claim, so hopefully I'll get a fair amount reimbursed via the policy. All of us have become more conscious on house security, keeping windows locked, doors locked, blinds down, etc, so hopefully it will work out for the best.

    In the mean time, I'll probably get one of the laptop chains recommended to keep my laptop locked up anyways just to be on the safe side -- plus it will be helpful for when we have parties here.

    Is there a way to retrospectively get the S/N of the laptop? I was foolish enough to not write it down for a future reference, but I've sent it in a few times for repairs, would the S/N be on the receipts? (I would check but they are at my other house in San Diego)

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I just saw a little something here about someone setting up a keylogger on his own computer and then dumping all the output into Dropbox (any syncing app would work with this). That way, if it was stolen and the startup processes weren't changed, the dude would have access to everything the thief typed. Thought it might interest you guys.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    mechaThor wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice so far. I'm meeting with the insurance company today to work out the claim, so hopefully I'll get a fair amount reimbursed via the policy. All of us have become more conscious on house security, keeping windows locked, doors locked, blinds down, etc, so hopefully it will work out for the best.

    In the mean time, I'll probably get one of the laptop chains recommended to keep my laptop locked up anyways just to be on the safe side -- plus it will be helpful for when we have parties here.

    Is there a way to retrospectively get the S/N of the laptop? I was foolish enough to not write it down for a future reference, but I've sent it in a few times for repairs, would the S/N be on the receipts? (I would check but they are at my other house in San Diego)

    It can't hurt to call the manufacturer (or wherever you bought it from) and see if it's in their records. I know Apple remembers the serial numbers of most of the bigger products you buy through their online store.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    KalTorak wrote: »
    mechaThor wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice so far. I'm meeting with the insurance company today to work out the claim, so hopefully I'll get a fair amount reimbursed via the policy. All of us have become more conscious on house security, keeping windows locked, doors locked, blinds down, etc, so hopefully it will work out for the best.

    In the mean time, I'll probably get one of the laptop chains recommended to keep my laptop locked up anyways just to be on the safe side -- plus it will be helpful for when we have parties here.

    Is there a way to retrospectively get the S/N of the laptop? I was foolish enough to not write it down for a future reference, but I've sent it in a few times for repairs, would the S/N be on the receipts? (I would check but they are at my other house in San Diego)

    It can't hurt to call the manufacturer (or wherever you bought it from) and see if it's in their records. I know Apple remembers the serial numbers of most of the bigger products you buy through their online store.

    I'll give HP a call tomorrow and explain to them what happened, hopefully with the result of a S/N. Judging by the adeptness of HP's cust serv (in my experience, at least), I wouldn't expect much, but hey, who am I to judge.

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  • The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Just a quick question as this is sometimes an issue with beefing up one's home security. Do you own the house or is it a rental type of thing?

    If you do own the house and plan on residing there for a good long while a security system might not be a bad investment. How did they break in? If it was just a matter of an unlocked door or window then it may not be necessary to go out and install a bunch of bars and stuff to keep your windows from opening and what not.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Just a quick question as this is sometimes an issue with beefing up one's home security. Do you own the house or is it a rental type of thing?

    If you do own the house and plan on residing there for a good long while a security system might not be a bad investment. How did they break in? If it was just a matter of an unlocked door or window then it may not be necessary to go out and install a bunch of bars and stuff to keep your windows from opening and what not.

    Me and 3 of my friends rent a single story apartment/condo (I'm still not entirely sure what to call it?) part of a greater complex. Basically what happened was one of my roommates left the back sliding glass door unlocked so me and my other roommate who were out could get back inside. He heard the door open, thought it was us, and went back asleep.

    Thus far we've just been more careful to keep the house locked at all times, during the day and especially at night. What we think made our house a target was that a windowed side of our house faces a commonly used walkway, so really anybody who was walking home from class could see the stuff that was inside, such as a guitar/guitar amp, etc. (which ended up being stolen, as well). Also the fact that we're college students and chances are didn't know any better probably had something to do with it.

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  • The LandoStanderThe LandoStander Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're just renters then that does sort of limit the things you can do as far as physical security without going to the apartment/condo/house owner. It seems like you're really just going to have to make sure to always lock everything, so the sliding door will be lost as a primary entrance (which I assume is already the case).

    I think that you can find alarm systems that don't require being hard mounted or wired to your walls, windows and doors but that usually means they're not connected to police and other emergency services. So they're really just something to scare people, that may not be the case for every system of that type, it isn't something I've really looked into, but dependent on just how far you want to go with things it's an option that might work for your situation as a renter.

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  • mechaThormechaThor Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're just renters then that does sort of limit the things you can do as far as physical security without going to the apartment/condo/house owner. It seems like you're really just going to have to make sure to always lock everything, so the sliding door will be lost as a primary entrance (which I assume is already the case).

    I think that you can find alarm systems that don't require being hard mounted or wired to your walls, windows and doors but that usually means they're not connected to police and other emergency services. So they're really just something to scare people, that may not be the case for every system of that type, it isn't something I've really looked into, but dependent on just how far you want to go with things it's an option that might work for your situation as a renter.

    Yeah I'm not sure if any of us are willing to pitch in to get a system as complicated as that, I think that just keeping our house locked will be enough to deter potential mischievous behavior. Also making sure we know everybody who is at our house when we have parties is probably a good thing to keep consistent.

    If we hear of more break-ins in the area, we'll probably go so far as getting a baseball bat or something just in case they try and come in while one of us is home, but I'm hoping it wont resort to that, as at that point the measure of self-defense they will return is unknown and could be potentially fatal.

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