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[First 100 Days] Voter's Remorse...
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So, the Obama Administration. Working hard, or hardly working?
That's the question on everyone's minds today as we look back at the 100 days of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. This thread isn't about general politics, it's about discussing Obama's performance as a President since January 20th; a discussion that has long been overdue. Surely, some of you must have been disappointed by some of his actions by now, so lets hear your gripes. Everyone's rating and grading various aspects of the administration. While some are disappointed, they are offset by others whom are pleasantly surprised. Some national report cards show Obama receiving grades as low as F+ or D- on his weaker subjects such as the economy, but he has managed to excel in other areas. How does D&D grade him?
Let's recap just exactly what's happened to this country, do bring up anything I may have forgotten:
The Good :^:
Initiative Roll- Obama took action quickly in his first few days. He started off by passing a bizarre bill out of nowhere, then closed Guantanamo, froze white house salaries, passed the stimulus, ended the stem cell research ban, killed pirates, found a puppy and opened up travel to Cuba. Clearly, the dude actually does stuff. Joe Biden: not so much.
Diplomatic Relations- Obama made quite a debut overseas. And who the fuck knew that Cuba would be willing to sit down and discuss "everything", or that Chavez would apologize a little bit and offer a gift (in the form of a book about how the United States has totally fucked over Latin America)? Regardless, Obama is improving the reputation of America around the world. Some would say that he may be taking this too far, like his bowing to King Abdullah or not totally blowing Chavez off for being a douche, but perhaps now things could be different.
High Approval- Obama remains very marketable; half politician, half celebrity. One expects any decent President to at least maintain high approval through the honeymoon period. So far there is no sign he is a total failure or whatever. He's adapted to his role quite well and the doubt over his abilities has dissipated some what. He's also brought with him to the White House a casual style that is friendly and approachable. He has also been very good about taking responsibility for stupid shit that happens, such as dudes flying Air Force One ominously low over New York.
Iraq is Over- With a deadline of August 2010 in place for the withdrawal of most troops in Iraq, and a new shift in focus to Afghanistan, Obama has managed to get us out of the quicksand. It seems like we are poised to finally start killing real terrorists again in Afghanistan, without blowing a shitload of money.
Black to the Future- Obama has kept in touch with the times, he's doing the weekly Youtube Address as he said he would and has become the first President to wield a Blackberry in office. He's super popular on twitter and facebook, and when he's not too busy he finds time to make it onto talk shows to chat with guys like Jay Leno. The "Five Days of Public Viewing on the Internet" before passing a bill thing got off to a shitty start but he seems to have gotten it together, I think.
The Bad :v:
Cabinet Fuckuppetry- What I want to know is how the hell did four people get through the vetting process when they very clearly had not paid some of their damn taxes? And of those 4, the one that actually got to stay was probably the least competent (Geithner) and is still perceived as being sketchy as fuck. This is not really exclusive to Geithner though (although he does suck and should be replaced ASAP), as the general opinion seems to be that the entire Cabinet has a bit of a competency problem.
Release of Torture Memos- There was no real need for this to happen, so why did it? Obama said he wanted to look forward, not back, but the release of these memos so we can go after the previous administration is petty at best, and dangerous for our national security at worst. This is kind of flip floppy on his part. There's also a possibility that this might blow up in his face, because some of the torture actually did work, and is documented, and was for justice. Now Obama is being pressed to release that information too.
The Budget- A fiasco. This thing costs way too damn much and has a shitload of pork. I do not want to see what future tax raises will be needed to pay for this shit. Clearly a product of our subpar Congress (though you can't really blame Obama for their stupidity).
The Economy- It's still shit, jobs aren't getting made fast enough and it's his fault. He said so himself. And don't forget Geithner and the AIG shenanigans.
THE SOCIALIST
Bailouts- So far the bailouts have just been a disappointment, and a constant source of irritation for the American public. Nice Job, O-Team. People are getting way too comfortable with talks of "nationalization" of various industries. We also shouldn't have to pay for our irresponsible neighbor's mortgages God damnit.
Soviet Opacity- It's pretty hypocritical of Obama to say "O YEA GUYS WE'RE GONNA BE TRANSPARENT"... and then hire a shitload of czars who answer to no one. Seriously, what is up with this? Czar's could be doing all sorts of shady shit behind the scenes to get things done and the public would never know about it. And these czar's are just as important as cabinet members? What the hell?
Partisan Politics- Let's face it, Obama has not been very bipartisan, and with Specter switching parties and tilting even more power toward the Dems I would be very surprised if Obama even gave a shit about what Republicans will have to say from now on, though it's reasonable to believe he was only pretending to in the past. The dude is many things, but a uniter is not one of them. Consider the fact that we had more bipartisanship in George Bush's first year than all of Obama's 100 days. I fear what crazy shit the Dems will pass now without the Republicans having an influence. Of all his shortcomings, this is the one that hurts the most.
tl;dr
So, what do you think of President Obama?
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They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Truly a historic... something.
What Presidents have sucked on the first 100 days and then went on to have awesome Presidencies?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
We found the descendants of the Romanovs and one thing led to another....
The fact "Czar" got filed under "socialist" is hilarious, btw.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
I think you missed my point. Which is this: FDR had a kickass first 100 days where he got a ton of shit done. Because the media is retarded, they have decided in modern times that this is an important point of comparison, because it is reasonably big and we operate with a base 10 counting system.
This is retarded, because the effects of a Presidency are unclear at best after 100 days. Especially with a President who generally plays the long game at the expense of short term newscycle victories.
He was, in fact, obligated to do. FOIA and all that.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Also, LOL SOCIALISM LOL :rotate:.
What does Specter have to do with Obama? What does Congress have to do with Obama? What about the Republican minority stonewalling absolutely everything with reckless and impotent indignation?
How does this qualify as his shortcoming, if it is a shortcoming? How is it the one that hurts him the most? Also, can you cite the 'more bipartisanship' in George Bush's first year (did you mean George W. Bush, btw?), making sure to differentiate it from some kind of bipartisanship in the Legislative branch (though I don't know how you measure this, anyway)?
bipartisanism: Republican's have fucking lost it and are opposing the dem's just to be contrary. Hard to reach across the isle when the other side is busy slapping the hand away.
the economy: blaming him for not fixing it in 3 months? what the fuck?
torture memo's: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. For justice? when in the fuck did we decide compromising our values and morales was a goddamn good idea? Here's a hint about the right-ness of torture: Reality isn't like 24.
the level of stupid you spout is awe inspiring
But FDR's 100 days started the New Deal that was a SOCIALIST DISASTER that crippled the already depressed economy until we had to kill us some krauts and japs!
What gave it away, the Obama is a socialist meme?
Also, Obs lololololol
PSN: Corbius
What? You mean that isn't just cold hard objective fact? I'm shocked.
Obs. What do you make of Obama winning traditionally red states in the general election? Certainly he has bipartisan appeal.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
He's a flim-flam sham artist that bamboozled whitey.
This is, of course, combined with the old adages "What we don't know won't hurt us" and "Way to go, asshole, you couldn't just let well enough alone, could you?"
He campaigned on bipartisanship, and that's why he won the red states.
Though, he has not kept that up in good faith. Christ, didn't he even tell the Republicans once "I believe I won, therefore I trump you." on some stimulus bill shit? This is not what we expected at all.
81% of America likes him. For Bush's sake I hope he cancelled every channel on his cable that isn't Fox or ESPN.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
You're blaming the Obama administration for releasing torture memos? AND the budget (Look either bitch about job loss or this.) FFS he hasn't been in office 6 months yet, how the hell can you ALREADY think the budget will fail?
And the ECONOMY?
Oh come on. That's like blaming Truman for WW2.
http://www.hillaryis44.org/
Okay? Now no one needs to read his posts except for hilarity's sake.
I don't know, that kind of fights against the actual content...because some of the stuff that was written there didn't actually happen.
I mean, the Economy is his fault? Republicans took eight years to fuck it up, he's supposed to fixxx iitttt in 100 days?
The Budget is a fiasco? How so? He's supposed to fix the economy without spending any money?
Bipartisanship's failure is his fault? What the fuck? Anyone who has been following politics for a single second knows that the raving mad monster that is the GOP right now doesn't function within the limits of logic. Working together with them is impossible.
I mean, opinions are okay I guess, but barefaced lying and twisting doesn't make them valid ones.
I agree with the cabinet thing, though. WTF, Obama?
By "we" you mean yourself and the other Republicans who voted against him?
*NEWSFLASH* Voters who didn't like Obama continue to dislike Obama.
Apparently, being bipartisan means reaching across the aisle to Republican pundits, not Republican citizens, which people forget are the Republicans that actually matter.
Well, when they tried to dictate to him, he basically said elections have consequences and the Republicans got all snotty about it.
No, that's not what he said at all.
And even if he did...it's true. He did win. Democrats are the majority, their opinion SHOULD trump GOP's. That's how democracy works.
And he's done pretty much what he said he was going to do. Of course he hasn't completed everything because it has been only a hundred fucking days and he has 1,360 left before the 2012 election, but he's making headway on them.
So why are you pissed off again? If you don't agree with the Democratic platform, why vote for it?