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DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm not sure where to start with this. It's deeply troubling to me but I almost feel as though it's a non-issue. Peculiar.

I work at this little convenience store, and I was under the impression that I was working for a friend. He has since divulged to me that he is not, in fact, the owner of the store, and that he and his business partner had pulled one over on the state's liquor board, in order to re-obtain a lost liquor license by briefly transferring ownership. I am troubled because I feel party to this, but also because my boss and my friend have basically been lying to me since before I was even hired on. (Problem #1)

This friend of mine recently got married, which was a situation worthy of a thread in itself, but truthfully he makes his own decisions and it would have been irresponsible of me to second guess him. So I'll leave it for what it is: background.

My friend hates this job. Hates it. Hates the people. Hates the location. Hates the hours. But he's been trapped into staying because all of the licenses are in his name, and he has financial obligations with his family, and the owner is his 'friend'. He works so often and such crazy hours that it is nearly impossible for him to search for anything else. Any time that he is away from work, his wife demands his time at home. He told me a story about how the owner asked him to cover work while he went on vacation. "no" was not an acceptable answer, and he ended up working 94 hour weeks for like two months.

My friend and I were talking today, and he was stressed the fuck out. It was like watching a fish out of water. He was all but gasping for breath. Earlier, he decided to take a lunch break, and went with his wife to a nearby bar for a sandwich or something. Said he was gone 20-25 minutes. The store is not very busy, especially in the middle of the day, so taking a break like this occasionally is perfectly reasonable (at least in my opinion). It was the first time he had taken a lunch break in like 2 years of working there.

He said that when he got back, the real owner (whom we'll call Sam) was in the store manning the register. Sam was apparently furious, accusing the friend of being gone for an hour plus, using the time to have sex with his wife, etc.

You know, all this background isn't really necessary. I am watching a friend of mine sink deeper into a pit of despair because his work and family situations are escalating into ever higher piles of shit. He is desperate for a life change but has neither the time nor the money to facilitate it.

My friend is headed down a terrible path and I want to help him somehow but I don't know what I can do. Can I do anything? Should I just butt out?

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Uh...I don't think you personally can do anything other than offer your support?

    If he wants to change, he has to quit and figure that out. Of course, that might be hard/almost impossible, but that's the way it is. You can't quit for him. You can't find a job for him. He has to do these things.

    Has he been to college?

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    So let me get this straight: 'Sam' owns the store, but has only 'obtained' a liquor license by having it under your friends name.

    Ergo, if your friend left, it would be completely illegal (not that it wasn't already, under false pretenses) to sell alcohol, thereby Sam would be losing a major part of his revenue.

    ...

    If I was in your friends shoes, I'd tell the guy "Look, this is how it is: (above), and I don't need to put up with this" and leave, because really what can the owner offer to compensate? Benefits? Discount beef jerky? That puts you in the position, if you really want to help, to find your friend (and I'd suggest you as well because this situation can only get worse* from here on our) new job(s).

    *is there any legitimate way this guy is running this business? Rhetorical question. Violated state and federal laws on many accounts ... I'd put money down that certain taxes don't add up either. I'd get out before copious amounts of shit hit various fans. But that's just me.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Edit for the above post: I have said as much to my friend. What happens if he fires you? His business fails. What happens if you quit? His business fails. He has him by the balls, but he doesn't act because Sam is a friend. I guess Sam is one of those "business is business" types, even though he runs it completely illegitimately.

    What he needs to do is put me on for a while as he looks for something, because I need the fucking overtime. Maybe I could suggest that.

    How can I be supportive without being pushy or becoming overly involved? Can we start with that?

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Go job hunting together? Make a day out of it. I fucking hate job searching. Application after application, it all runs together. When you do it with a buddy, it goes a hella lot faster. Even if he doesn't turn in a single damn application either, it shows that you were there for him once and you'd be there again.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Only the two of us work there. Either he's working, or I am.

    Also the answer to your rhetorical question is "Not legitimately at all."

    I have been directed to charge tax and deposit to food benefits (ringing up the items normally, and then clearing it and punching the final value into the foodstamp category), and my overtime pay is under the table at a rate of six dollars per hour.

    I basically took this job because I was crazy desperate. As in "Wow, I'm gonna be sleeping under a bridge unless I find something right fucking now" desperate. I made a thread about it a while back. As an aside, I actually had several forumers offer to put me up and help me out, across various states.

    PA is good people.

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  • SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Sam sounds like a psycho and I would definitely not want to have to rely on someone like that at work. People like that have a tendency to drive businesses into the ground, so I'd be careful. If your friend is able to find better work somewhere else, I would suggest going with him. Who do you think Sam will start shitting on once he's gone? You.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Only the two of us work there. Either he's working, or I am.

    Also the answer to your rhetorical question is "Not legitimately at all."

    I have been directed to charge tax and deposit to food benefits (ringing up the items normally, and then clearing it and punching the final value into the foodstamp category), and my overtime pay is under the table at a rate of six dollars per hour.

    I basically took this job because I was crazy desperate. As in "Wow, I'm gonna be sleeping under a bridge unless I find something right fucking now" desperate. I made a thread about it a while back. As an aside, I actually had several forumers offer to put me up and help me out, across various states.

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    Find a new job. Convince your friend to find a new job. Then call the liquor board and whichever agency takes care of food stamps, and report the owner. He's basically breaking several laws, it will come down sooner or later, and you do not want to be around when that happens.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Yeah when the hammer drops, sam is going to be in trouble, as is your friend. this guy sam is taking advantage of your friend's generosity and is going to land him in a world of shit. This guy has NO legs to stand on, he's violating a ton of laws and you could potentially sue him for back overtime. the both of you should talk to him, and tell him that his behavior is unacceptable and needs to change. He should be amicable to that, if not, well he's a piece of shit and shouldn't be a "friend." also, a terrible businessman.

    I think you can get into some trouble for ringing things up incorrectly, and if he gets caught, he could say "i never told him that, he must be taking money from the till when he rings things up that way" then YOU could get busted for theft. He's likely the one to go down for not having the receipts to back up the foodstamp rings, but he might be able to take you down with him. from your story, it doesn't sound like throwing you or your friend under the bus would be out of character.

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