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MimMim dead.Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Hi PA,

I'm trying to put together to a book for art class. I used InDesign and the crop marks are correct on the program. Unfortunately, the crop marks are not right when they come out of the printer (an Epson). No one at my school knows what the fuck a crop mark IS. Is there a way to fix the printer so I can make the crop marks align on both sides of the page? The pages are double sided. D:

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  • yurnamehereyurnamehere Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Are your printer settings forcing margins, causing the image to be resized?

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    You're probably right, and I tried telling the manager that, but he didn't even fix it.

    I might try another lab. Does anyone know if Kinkos has better printers that won't cut off my crop marks?

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  • The_Glad_HatterThe_Glad_Hatter One Sly Fox Underneath a Groovy HatRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    are you printing it as a pdf?

    because you can "print as booklet" and choose the pdf-printer. I think you can add crop marks in there.

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  • RhavenRhaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm not really clear on what the problem is here - is it that the crop marks don't line up from one side of your sheet to the other? Or is it that the paper is too small in relation to your document size and the crop marks are cut off? Or both?

    Also, how many pages is this book?

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  • velcroshoesvelcroshoes Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm betting you're printing on both sides of a page and the crop marks are just a little off when compared to each other. That would be the printers fault, it won't feed the paper in exactly the same every time. When I do these projects I hand measure my crops, which is a pain in the ass. Kinkos printers aren't much better...

    Of course I may have just misinterpreted your question... In that case, give some more info on exactly what's wrong

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  • ZeonZeon Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm betting you're printing on both sides of a page and the crop marks are just a little off when compared to each other. That would be the printers fault, it won't feed the paper in exactly the same every time. When I do these projects I hand measure my crops, which is a pain in the ass. Kinkos printers aren't much better...

    Of course I may have just misinterpreted your question... In that case, give some more info on exactly what's wrong

    What.

    If you take your book to kinkos to print, and you get them to bind it for you, theyll definately be making sure it lines up. Plus theyre probably using docutechs (or will ship it off to their print center that has docutechs) that will print both sides automatically.

    If your print supports post script, try saving your project down as a PDF file, making sure its set to 8.5x11 page width. Then in acrobat, in the print menu, choose NO document scaling, and change the print style to "Letter, full bleed'. As long as you dont have funky left/right offsets, it should line up.

    Personally, if its that important to you, id just take it to kinkos because i mean for like 10 bucks theyll give you a pretty professional looking book, better than youll be able to do at home with an inkjet printer.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    When you go to print it go to Page Setup and format it for your printer. That might fix it.

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  • MagicToasterMagicToaster JapanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm betting you're printing on both sides of a page and the crop marks are just a little off when compared to each other. That would be the printers fault, it won't feed the paper in exactly the same every time. When I do these projects I hand measure my crops, which is a pain in the ass. Kinkos printers aren't much better...

    Of course I may have just misinterpreted your question... In that case, give some more info on exactly what's wrong

    This is what I bet is going on. Take it to a professional print place, they will have a machine with a more accurate feeding system than those at the big name Office-Max-kinda print stores. Also, with the exception of the center fold, if you've managed your bleed right, you can afford to have a few cm of error margin.

    What is your bleed set to?

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  • MagicPrimeMagicPrime FiresideWizard Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    If you let the printer do the duplexing itself the crop marks aren't going to match up from front to back.

    For instance, in my office the laser printer that I use for internal jobs always places the print 1/16" off to the left of the page. If I let the printer do the duplexing itself then the 1/16" on one side combines with the 1/16 on the other side so when you look through the paper the crop marks will be 1/8" off of eachother.

    I had to learn from trial and error that if I do the duplexing myself and feed the paper in the correct way it puts that extra 1/16 on the same side and the crop lines match up perfectly.

    Your average desktop or even office-quality laser printer isn't a professional press. The mechanisms it uses to feed the paper into the system are always going to make the pages slightly off from absolute center. This is just a fact of the world.

    The hardest part is just figuring out the nuances and tricks for the printer you use and acting accordingly.

    I'm sure the next job I move to will have a completely different kind of printer and I will have to re-learn every trick I currently do with my printer here to get good results.

    EDIT:

    Also -- If you take it to Kinkos or whatever. Make sure you export as a .pdf and put the bleed to .125. That is standard bleed size and is all you need. You don't need to worry about the slug or anything like that. For a normal print job all that crap isn't needed.

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