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My cheap PC

Left Wing jAyLeft Wing jAy Registered User regular
edited May 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm interested in getting hold of a Pc capable of playing some newer titles, the kind that require newer hardware, but not incredibly high-end stuff - Empire, DoW II, Fallout 3 (?) etc. I'm having trouble deciding between a laptop and a desktop.

The laptop I have now is decent specs, but about 4yrs old, and some parts are failing (The optical drive has gone, and the battery won't stay attatched to the back properly anymore). As I mentioned, I don't want a gaming machine as such, but something capable. I'm thinking if I got a desktop, I'd just travel with my current laptop for basic usage - but then if I got a new laptop, I wouldn't have to create a dedicated space or anything.

Thinking about picking up this for a simple desktop:

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=22179&category_id=677&manufacturer_id=0&tid=bun1023

What grapics card should I get to put in there? Or should I keep looking? I have a pretty low budget, at around £500 max, which I would probably reach after adding a monitor and card.

For similar money, I can get something like this:

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=26948&tid=frooct

Everyone says not to try a gaming laptop, but I think this machine has really nice specs for what I want out of it. I'm worried that it will get incredibly hot, or start to fall apart, or simply be terrible at running games and impossible to upgrade.

Comments from anyone with more experience in hardware, and perhaps the games I mentioned, would be extremely welcomed, as would reccomendations within my budget.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    See stickied "New Computer Build Thread" in Moe's Stupid Technology Tavern here:
    http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=88280

    Generally speaking you'll be much better off in both finances and performance by building your own machine. And it's not tough to do by any stretch.

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    In general laptops are impossible to upgrade. While not technically, just practically.

    Stick with a desktop, it is also cheaper.
    There are ~USD200 cards, as well as good monitors.

    Browsing that site, look around here: http://www.cclonline.com/product-categories.asp?category_id=531
    The 200 series cards being the better of the bunch, in general. Assuming it has PCI-e, I didn't notice the specs saying anything about it.

    If you stay with Vista, consider adding more RAM. Not only will it help running vista, but it will allow better games to run. All in all it will be quite adequate if you get a GeForce 200 series or even 8800 wouldn't be all too bad.


    Edit: In agreement with falcon. Building your own is usually cheaper if you decide to go that way.

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  • Left Wing jAyLeft Wing jAy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Would I really get much more out of it, though? For the extra effort, I mean. The PC I saw is £300, and I'd just need one extra component, rather than have to hunt down and order each individual one.

    I'm not sure, I could try and build one for a similar price, but I've never even owned a desktop. I can understand building a beast, picking the best components at the best price, but this is pretty basic; surely I can't shave much off that £3-400 range?

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  • rfaliasrfalias Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Would I really get much more out of it, though? For the extra effort, I mean. The PC I saw is £300, and I'd just need one extra component, rather than have to hunt down and order each individual one.

    I'm not sure, I could try and build one for a similar price, but I've never even owned a desktop. I can understand building a beast, picking the best components at the best price, but this is pretty basic; surely I can't shave much off that £3-400 range?

    It's really not a bad deal at all. If you don't have the technical expertise (Both hardware and software) to build your own, then it may be better to go with the one listed. Though it looks like a "custom built" from that company. Honestly as long as it isn't a big box retailer you should be OK. They have a warranty too, so again if you don't have the skillset to be your own warrantor (ex. troubleshooting and fixing problems when/if they arise) then it seems like a good idea.

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  • Left Wing jAyLeft Wing jAy Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm reading bad things about that processor now...

    Been finding sites that offer builds, but all with such variety. DinoPC, Chill blast...the latter of which are offering this for £500:

    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Processor (2.66GHz)
    Asus P5KPL-AM Motherboard
    Radeon 4650 Video Card
    Colours IT Black & Silver ATX Case with 400watt PSU
    4GB PC2-6400 DDR2 Memory
    22x DVD-RW/CD-RW Optical Drive (Black)
    250GB SATA 7200rpm Hard Disk
    Onboard High-Definition Audio
    Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit OEM
    2 Year Collect and Return Warranty - see bottom of description

    Included Peripherals:

    19" Widescreen TFT Monitor featuring DVI and 1440x900 resolution
    Cordless Keyboard & Mouse
    2.1 Channel Speakers



    It's not clear on whether it comes assembled, or not.

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