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[Android] Tell me of the HTC Magic

VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
OK, I'm looking for a new phone and I need some informed advice.

I've read all the previews, but they can't really tell me how this phone works, if you know what I mean.

First of all, is it responsive? I've had quite a few Nokia's and SEricsson's that were/are sluggish when ordered to do fairly basic tasks -- such as calling a number in my addressbook or texting a buncha guys. This annoys me to no end.

Secundus, is the touch interface responsive? I'm still scarred from the HTC Diamond. An iPhone level of responsiveness is the absolute minimum I can deal with. (I am at heart a button man; I crave the tactile feel)

Thirdly, what do you think of it? Good, bad, indifferent, what works for you, and what doesn't? I want your biased opinion.

A few bulletpoints about my phone (ab)use:
  • I need to check Gmail as well as the Office MS Exchange
  • My contact info is sacred!
  • I text groups all the time
  • Browsing, while nice, is not essential
  • I use a Bluetooth headset when needed

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  • JohnDoeJohnDoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I don't know why you'd go for a Magic over a Dream, the Dream is just a Magic with a keyboard. And the things rate as most important would be better with a keyboard.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Very true, but there's a good chance we won't be getting the Dream in my neck of the woods (Denmark). So -- at least for now -- the Magic it is. Mind you, I'm also keeping an eye on the Samsung I7500...

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  • JohnDoeJohnDoe Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Very true, but there's a good chance we won't be getting the Dream in my neck of the woods (Denmark). So -- at least for now -- the Magic it is. Mind you, I'm also keeping an eye on the Samsung I7500...

    Thats the one I'm waiting for.

    AMOLED, better battery, 3.5mm headphone jack. Don't think it has a trackball though, which is annoying.

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I have a magic. Got it on release day (5th of may)

    Screen responsiveness is very good. I can't think of a single instance of me having to re-press the screen because a light tap didn't register.

    Overall phone responsiveness is pretty good. My last phone was an n95 and the magic is noticeably quicker in general use.

    Overall I'm in love with the thing. It's definately a step up from anything Nokia is offering right now, the whole system (interface, hardware) just feels like a generation ahead of the n95 or a windows mobile device (before the n95 I had an XDA windows mobile 6 device). I still miss the hardware keyboard, but I'm getting more and more confident with the soft-keyboard and it's certainly not a deal breaker. The market solution to downloading 3rd party apps works well...what else..... text messaging uses the same 'conversation' paradigm as gmail, which takes a little getting used to but which you might actually prefer to a standard inbox/sent items view. The interface doesn't feel as intuitive to me as the nokia did, but I guess that's more to do with familiarity than anything else.

    anything else? feel free to ask away.

    edit: there's no exchange sync out of the box (which I'm sure you already know) and all the 3rd party apps I've found for exchange syncing are either free betas which expire in a couple of months, or only available as paid for apps from the market (which you can't get in the UK). I'm currently using roadsync beta, but not sure what I'm going to do when it expires at the end of the month.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Good stuff, dudes. The thing with the Exchange clients worries me, but I (read: my company) don't mind paying for a decent exchange client.

    That Samsung looks pretty good too. Problem is, I'm an impatient man -- I'll buy the first Android that gets here!

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  • victor_c26victor_c26 Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Tallus wrote: »
    edit: there's no exchange sync out of the box (which I'm sure you already know) and all the 3rd party apps I've found for exchange syncing are either free betas which expire in a couple of months, or only available as paid for apps from the market (which you can't get in the UK). I'm currently using roadsync beta, but not sure what I'm going to do when it expires at the end of the month.

    Wait, then what's all this then?:

    HTC Magic supports Exchange, Google says Android doesn't

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Just read an article somewhere which said that the HTC Magic doesn't have the "with Google" branding, which means it isn't part of the "Google experience" for Android. Basically, this allows HTC to put their own stuff onto the phone, which includes Exchange support.

    This isn't the one I read, but it's the same idea, I suppose.

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ayulin wrote: »
    Just read an article somewhere which said that the HTC Magic doesn't have the "with Google" branding, which means it isn't part of the "Google experiepnce" for Android. Basically, this allows HTC to put their own stuff onto the phone, which includes Exchange support.

    This isn't the one I read, but it's the same idea, I suppose.

    maybe it's just in the uk then but mine has the 'with Google' branding and no exchange client. You might want to check before you buy.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    According to local sources, it's the HTC-fitted Magic we'll be getting here in the DK -- that's the one with the Exchange-client.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    @ Tallus: So overall the Magic is a responsive phone, OS-wise? (Meaning that I found the HTC Diamond unbearably slow -- the strange interface design also did nothing to endear me to it...)

    Because I'd rather use my old Nokia 3310 with its rudimentary -- but fast -- interface than struggle with HTCs Windows Mobile ever again. And then live without phone-mail; I have a netbook for that, although I'd have to drag it around with me...

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    @ Tallus: So overall the Magic is a responsive phone, OS-wise? (Meaning that I found the HTC Diamond unbearably slow -- the strange interface design also did nothing to endear me to it...)

    Because I'd rather use my old Nokia 3310 with its rudimentary -- but fast -- interface than struggle with HTCs Windows Mobile ever again. And then live without phone-mail; I have a netbook for that, although I'd have to drag it around with me...

    It's definately faster than a standard windows mobile device. I had an HTC wizard, and then a Hermes and the magic just doesn't feel anywhere near as laggy as those did.

    It's probably one of those subjective things that you really need to check out before you buy though. There is a tiny bit of delay on certain operations, opening a text 'conversation' for example is just about instantaneous, but then if you switch back to the main 'inbox' there's a tiny, almost unnoticable delay. I guess it boils down to how picky you are. I do have 'animations' turned on, so screens slide to the side rather than just instantly switching, that may account for the delays.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Sounds good -- I'm not super picky, but seconds of delay is too much for me. A short blink is OK, and so is a screen wipe.

    How does the trackball work for you? A trackball for a phone sounds like a novel idea, but I don't really know of other phones with trackballs -- so it's hard for me to relate to it. By most accounts it seems to work well, though.

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Sounds good -- I'm not super picky, but seconds of delay is too much for me. A short blink is OK, and so is a screen wipe.

    How does the trackball work for you? A trackball for a phone sounds like a novel idea, but I don't really know of other phones with trackballs -- so it's hard for me to relate to it. By most accounts it seems to work well, though.

    I've only used it in two situations. 1 is the browser, the trackball allows you to quickly move through the links on a page. 2 is a game (retro defense) which is easier with the trackball I find.

    generally speaking though you won't use the trackball much in day to day operations, swiping and tapping is much easier.

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  • AyulinAyulin Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Just wondering, how is the onscreen keyboard? Comparable to the iPhone's?

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  • DeicistDeicist Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ayulin wrote: »
    Just wondering, how is the onscreen keyboard? Comparable to the iPhone's?

    I don't have an iPhone for comparison but it seems pretty good. The only problem I have is that the keys are pretty small and my thumbs are pretty big. The predictive text works well once you get used to it (annoyingly though, if it thinks you're wrong it will default to what it thinks is right, rather than just giving you the option of what it thinks is right). Responsiveness is good though.

    Overall I think I'd prefer less but bigger keys (maybe even a T9 layout) but it's fine for occasional texts and email use.

    on another note, I have found something laggy that annoys me: switching from portrait to landscape (or vice versa) takes about 2 seconds. Although the fact that the 2 second delay there stands out enough to annoy me probably says something about the responsiveness of the rest of the system.

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I think this thread is worn out -- but thank you all for your valuable insights. I think I will take a chance on the Magic, if it ever gets here...

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  • VacuumJockeyVacuumJockey Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Necromancy: I went with the Magic, and I've had it for a week now. It's pretty much my favorite phone now -- there are a few minor issues related to me being a slow learner, but overall it does what I want my phone to do, and it does so in a generally speedy manner. Only when shifting to a sideways-view is there a minor pause. In other worlds: The glowing reviews are generally on target.

    The only real weak point is the camera, which pretty much sucks. Fortunately I'm not much of a photographer myself but if the phonecam is important to you, Magic is not the phone for you should get. Hopefully it will improve a bit with the next Android upgrade.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm also considering it, I've had good experiences with HTC in the past once I've put a speedier OS on them, but the Magic looks pretty fast for the start, so maybe I won't even need to. What provider did you get it for?

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  • ReckonerReckoner Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think that would be better if you wait for the release of the Samsung i7500, which has better connectivity, camera and a nice and colorful OLED screen. The problem, for me, on the Samsung is that the design is a bit weird comparing it with the HTC Magic.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Hm, that does look nice. I wonder if we get to see it here and when.

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