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Forced Kitchen Renovation?
dacount97
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I think this is going to be a one or the other kind of thing, but I just wondered if anyone knows what will be less painful to do.
I have an older house with a dishwasher that is on it's last legs. The hinge on the door has broken, and to fix it, I need to pull it out from the cabinets. Evidently, the last floor that was put in (tile) was installed after the dishwasher, so the opening isn't really big enough, and one of the legs on the dishwasher is bent anyways, so I can't get it out. I either need to remove the counter top or the tiles in front of the dishwasher to get it out, and I can't figure out what will be easier / cheaper.
Other factors: I know it will probably be impossible to match the grout (it's pretty gross brown), and the wife hates the tile anyways, so if I remove the tile in the front, I will probably end up ripping up all the tile and putting down hardwoods. This is going to get done at some point anyways, but I assume it's going to be a pain, since I would have to dump all that tile and move the fridge/washer/dryer too.
If I go the counter top route, and replace it, it seems like that will be wasted money, since down the road we will be changing the back splash / cabinet fronts and will probably want granite or something like that. Also, having to disconnect the plumbing / cook top seems no fun.
TL,DR: Dishwasher is busted and can't get it out. Should I pull the counter top off and get it out that way or should I rip the tile up?
I have an older house with a dishwasher that is on it's last legs. The hinge on the door has broken, and to fix it, I need to pull it out from the cabinets. Evidently, the last floor that was put in (tile) was installed after the dishwasher, so the opening isn't really big enough, and one of the legs on the dishwasher is bent anyways, so I can't get it out. I either need to remove the counter top or the tiles in front of the dishwasher to get it out, and I can't figure out what will be easier / cheaper.
Other factors: I know it will probably be impossible to match the grout (it's pretty gross brown), and the wife hates the tile anyways, so if I remove the tile in the front, I will probably end up ripping up all the tile and putting down hardwoods. This is going to get done at some point anyways, but I assume it's going to be a pain, since I would have to dump all that tile and move the fridge/washer/dryer too.
If I go the counter top route, and replace it, it seems like that will be wasted money, since down the road we will be changing the back splash / cabinet fronts and will probably want granite or something like that. Also, having to disconnect the plumbing / cook top seems no fun.
TL,DR: Dishwasher is busted and can't get it out. Should I pull the counter top off and get it out that way or should I rip the tile up?
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On the other hand, like you said, going the countertop route is a waste and the tiles are gross. If you're forced to choose, rip up the tiles.
That said, if you can manage to do them both at once you'll get a much nicer finished product. Pull the tiles, pull the countertip, pull the cabinets. Run hardwoods under everything or at least run them a few inches under and raise the cabinets with spacers. Slide the dishwasher right on on top of the hardwoods.
edit: all that said, taking the countertup off is a lot less work than tearing tiles out. Depending on how the countertop was installed it can be fairly painless, whereas tearing up tile is always a lot of work. I would still reccomend tearing the tile out, you'll be happier with it in the end.
This is the long shot. The enclosure for the oven goes ceiling to floor, so no way to lift, unless I re-built it(I think)
Ok, this is tighter on the corner. I think to remove the countertop, I would pop that side piece next to the stove, then the trim around the back, then it should lift off?
This is the main issue (sorry it's not that clear). There is about 1/2 an inch under that lip to the subfloor, but the "foot" under there is bent and can't be raised to clear the tile, and if I can get it high enough, it's caught under the lip of the countertop.
This is the rest of the counter, so you can get the idea of how big the countertop is. I suppose I would disconnect the plumbing and all the trim here too? (If removing the counter?)
If someone sees any other options, I'm open to that too. I'm liking the trying to pry up the countertop and squeeze it out, but if something happened to the countertop my wife would make me replace it, and there goes that when we remodel down the road.
Oh, and yes, you would need to disconnect that sink.
edit: I'm thinking about it more.Geez, this is a pain in the ass, just put the dishwasher somewhere else. Wow... that floor is really fucking with you.
Is there any way to slip a blade under the dishwasher and cut the feet off? Hell, if this thing is as broke as you say, just dismantle the thing while its in there.
Fixed. Also, I'm going to second just ripping the dishwasher out piece by piece. Like, do you have a friend with a reciprocating saber saw? If so, cut that bitch out of there in pieces. A bi-metal blade would take thing apart real easy. It certainly wouldn't be my first choice of removal, but it certainly is looking like it might be a good option if you're not ready to remodel the rest of the kitchen too. You also might be able to get another dishwasher to fit into that hole.
Pff, in my household it's my kitchen.
To be honest, if that was my kitchen I'd be chomping at the bit to remodel it anyway. The configuration is atrocious, stove all crammed in the corner under some sort of overhead microwave oven and right next to a body-height oven with the dishwasher right at my knees? AGGH! It'd drive me crazy trying to cook in there.
I'd be looking to move the dishwasher to the far end, centralise the hob location with some work surface space either side of it, putting the oven on the floor to free up more work surface for food prep and run the tiles under the appliances what sort of moron...
Amen to that. If you could arrange a lotto win or some other way to come into a large sum of money, it would be greatly appreciated.
Anyways, I am getting the sawzall tonight, so I should have an update in a couple of days. Thanks everyone!
This isn't nearly as fun as completely destroying it though
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