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Cult of scientology banned from Wikipedia

FugaFuga Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Social Entropy++
Banned from editing any articles that is.
The collaborative online encyclopedia Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology from editing the site. The Register reports Wikipedia’s Arbitration Committee, or ArbCom, voted 10 to 0 in favor of the ban, which takes effect immediately.

Wikipedia’s innovative free-encyclopedia draws upon the knowledge of millions of users to create and edit articles on every conceivable topic. Edits appear immediately and do not undergo any formal peer-review process.

Wikipedia officially prohibits use of the encyclopedia to advance personal agendas – such as advocacy or propaganda and philosophical, ideological or religious dispute – but the open format makes enforcing such policies difficult.

According to Wikipedia administrators speaking to The Register:

Multiple editors have been “openly editing [Scientology-related articles] from Church of Scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities.”

However, Karin Pouw, with the Church of Scientology’s public affairs office, told me she is unaware of any coordinated effort to alter Wikipedia. Instead, she described the edits as individual attempts to correct inaccurate information by impassioned Scientologists and interpreted the ban as a typical Wikipedia response to arguments over content. She noted that even the U.S. Department of Justice received a temporary ban after someone erased references to a controversial scandal from inside the government agency.

One Wikipedia contributor I spoke with that was involved in the Scientology arbitration agreed that some of the edits coming from the church were justifiable, but insisted the ban was necessary after the church refused to follow Wikipedia’s policies:

“The edits coming out of Church of Scientology servers were of the sort that made their organization look better. Up to a point that’s justifiable, when it comes to correcting inaccuracies or removing poorly sourced negative information. There were times when they went beyond that and deleted well sourced information that was unflattering, and there were times when they insulted other editors in a manner that would reflect poorly upon any religion.”

Some see Wikipedia’s decision as a setback to the Utopian goal of Web 2.0 in which every user is allowed to freely contribute.
http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/29/wikipedia-bans-church-of-scientology/
http://www.techdigest.tv/2009/05/scientology_ban.html

Didn't see this posted yet.

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    fuck scientologists

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  • MikeRyuMikeRyu Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Take that Tom Cruise you beautiful man!

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The CoS should be banned from everything.

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  • QorzmQorzm Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    god is a woman

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm not too happy them being able to just up and ban an entire group from editing, especially since they've touted wikipedia as this thing "for the people, by the people" but I guess if they have explicitly stated rules and they're broken, they're not exactly in the wrong.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2009
    oh hey, crazy people getting slapped on the wrist for being crazy huh

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not too happy them being able to just up and ban an entire group from editing, especially since they've touted wikipedia as this thing "for the people, by the people" but I guess if they have explicitly stated rules and they're broken, they're not exactly in the wrong.

    I think it's just an IP range ban anyway.

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I'm not too happy them being able to just up and ban an entire group from editing, especially since they've touted wikipedia as this thing "for the people, by the people" but I guess if they have explicitly stated rules and they're broken, they're not exactly in the wrong.

    I think it's just an IP range ban anyway.

    yeah, it doesn't exactly outright block them from doing what they're doing

    just sends the message that "hey we do not want you doing this, stop"

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

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  • AshcroftAshcroft LOL The PayloadRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    Wikipedia is about accurate speech, not free speech.

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  • QorzmQorzm Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.
    Well they're all for truth, rather than opinion

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I would say I'm agnest free speach, but then i would get beatten. Hurray!

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Fuck Scientology right in its bum.

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  • AneurhythmiaAneurhythmia Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_anarchy

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  • pismo no homopismo no homo Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Qorzm wrote: »
    god is a woman

    according to the movie zeitgeist god is the sun

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  • AshcroftAshcroft LOL The PayloadRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Hang on. Does this mean no one is guarding L. Ron Hubbard's wiki page?

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  • J3pJ3p Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    J3p wrote: »
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

    the giver?

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  • FugaFuga Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    How are they even going to enforce this?

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  • MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    J3p wrote: »
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

    Til his gallses fall off and break?

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers, but they'll never get to prove it!

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  • BedigunzBedigunz Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    J3p wrote: »
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

    the giver?

    Well played. I thought the exact same thing

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Fuga wrote: »
    How are they even going to enforce this?

    They just ban the IP block from scientology.org or whatever their site is. Someone could just go home and mess around, but individual IPs can be banned as well if the user is causing trouble.

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    the utopian goal of web 2.0

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  • pismo no homopismo no homo Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_anarchy

    i love wiki apologists

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  • Volucrisus AedriusVolucrisus Aedrius Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    J3p wrote: »
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

    the giver?

    :^:

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  • Phil316Phil316 Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Fuga wrote: »
    How are they even going to enforce this?

    presumably by banning edits from people within the church's ip range

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    wikipedia's goal is to make an expansive and accurate encyclopedia using the gathered expertise of people all around the world

    if you're actively going against that goal to further yourself or your own organization, then they have every right to ban you

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  • vsovevsove ....also yes. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Phil316 wrote: »
    Fuga wrote: »
    How are they even going to enforce this?

    presumably by banning edits from people within the church's ip range

    Every time you try and edit something, they ask you about your Thetans.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    vsove wrote: »
    Phil316 wrote: »
    Fuga wrote: »
    How are they even going to enforce this?

    presumably by banning edits from people within the church's ip range

    Every time you try and edit something, they ask you about your Thetans.

    My Thetans, let me show you them.

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  • nevilleneville The Worst Gay (Seriously. The Worst!)Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Ashcroft wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    Wikipedia is about accurate speech, not free speech.

    This.

    I'm all for free speech, but Wikipedia isn't a place to say "Hey this is cool", it is supposed to be a community edited source of information.

    Them insulting other groups and removing things that make them look bad is breaking the rules.
    And in general, those guys are colossal dicks to everyone.

    So I'm pretty happy saying "FUCK YOU" to the Church of Scientology.

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  • Cosmic SombreroCosmic Sombrero Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I believe vampires are the world's greatest golfers, but they'll never get to prove it!

    That's just a white myth, like Larry Bird and Colorado.

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  • StarfuckStarfuck Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    i didn't know CT worked for wikipedia

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Vann Diras wrote: »
    J3p wrote: »
    one day everyone will be banned from wikipedia

    except one man

    who must document everything

    the giver?

    :^:

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    the utopian goal of web 2.0
    I picked up on that too. Shit is stupid.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_anarchy

    i love wiki apologists

    what

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Nuzak wrote: »
    Javen wrote: »
    I mean, it's like free speech. You're either for all of it or none of it, or you're a hypocrite.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_anarchy

    i love wiki apologists

    what

    pismo is run^3 level retarded

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Some see Wikipedia’s decision as a setback to the Utopian goal of Web 2.0 in which every user is allowed to freely contribute.

    Typical weasel-word bullshit. Notice it doesn't say or even suggest who sees it that way.

    Shorty on
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shorty wrote: »
    Some see Wikipedia’s decision as a setback to the Utopian goal of Web 2.0 in which every user is allowed to freely contribute.

    Typical weasel-word bullshit. Notice it doesn't say or even suggest who sees it that way.

    rage against the man, bro

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  • Airking850Airking850 Ottawa, ONRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Shorty wrote: »
    Some see Wikipedia’s decision as a setback to the Utopian goal of Web 2.0 in which every user is allowed to freely contribute.

    Typical weasel-word bullshit. Notice it doesn't say or even suggest who sees it that way.

    So what you're saying is, Citation Needed?

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