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Elkatas bought EA Sports Active. End report at post 97.

elkataselkatas Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Games and Technology
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I was shopping on the last friday, 60 euros burning on my pocket, when I saw EA Sports Active on the shelf. I don't know what exactly hit me, but I decided to buy it against my better judgement. After using it for three days, I'm surprised how well it works and how much better I feel already.

But before I start to tell about the game, I want everyone understand background which I come from. I admit that I'm grossly overweight, but that doesn't tell whole story, as I'm surprisingly healthy for my weight. I can be years without getting sick, I don't have high blood pressure (surprising, considering every one in the family has it), I eat lots of vegetables and fruits (potatoes, carrots, and apples primarily), and for last 1½ years, I have been walking daily 3-4 kilometres. I have also done 20 min training with weights in the past, although it slipped away from my routines few months ago. While I have started to measure my weight only recently, it is clear that I have dropped some serious weight as I need belt with clothes that barely fit me two years ago. So I would say I'm making steady and nice progress towards healthier life.

Knowing my own personal background and having honest image about it, I was wondering that could game give slouch like some additional exercise. My biggest worries that some of the exercises could impossible for me complete due my lack of balance (I suffer from nerve damage), or that exercises could be too easy. For my surprise, the regiment set by the game was within my physical restrictions, but hard enough to turn me into sweating pile of jello.

Unlike Wii Fit, EA Sport Active totally ignores yoga, instead focusing solely on cardio and endurance related exercises. At the start of the game, you tell game your age, height and weight, and after that you are taken into 30 day challenge. Each day (excluding breaks), the game gives you 20 exercise long program that focus on specific body areas. If you don't feel like doing, let's say, lunges, you can switch the off from the program, but I don't really see the point in skimping. After doing the exercise, you are immediately taken into next one. Sometimes exercises appear twice in program to help you to improve your endurance. You can also create yourself totally new program, if you desire so, and set exercise specific difficulties to suit your own personal tastes.

Typical easy level program takes 25 minutes to complete. Each program has set number of calories that you should burn during the program, and the number varies greatly between the programs. For example, yesterday's program made me burn 270 calories, while today's goal was only 150 calories. The game naturally tracks amount of burnt calories exercise by exercise, and so far I have managed to pass set goals each day by 20-30 calories.

The game does come with pouch that is placed on the right leg, above the knee. Some exercises like those which primarily work with legs require that you place nunchuk on the pouch. By comparing data received from nunchuk to players height, the game knows that legs actually move during the exercise. In some exercises, wiimote and nunchuk are put into hands to make sure that hands move properly.

For most of time, controls work very well, but there are certain moments when movement doesn't register properly, and you need to do it twice for it to register. These are quite minor, however, and I suspect many of these problems are primarily my fault, as due width of my leg, I need to keep pouch little lower than it is meant to be. You also get resistance band that is used in some exercises. While it is perfect for me, I suspect that it is way too weak for someone who has trained for a while. There is also balance board support, but I haven't tested it, and from what I heard, the alternative exercises given by it are actually worse than normal ones.

So far as I see it, EA Sports Active certainly isn't suitable for building muscle mass, but for improving cardio and overall endurance, I believe it is very good product. I have been soaking with sweat after each exercise, and I have truly felt the exercises in the designated areas. Presentation is actually pretty slick, with exercise videos showing exactly how each maneuver should be done, and warning if there is risk of hurting yourself. The greatest flaws are the minor flaws in the controls, weakness of resistance band (which, fortunately, can be replaced with your own), and limited number of exercises.

If anyone has any questions about the game, I'm glad to answer, although my knowledge when it comes to actual fitness is rather limited.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I have this as well. As someone who is overweight but not grossly so, it's good. It started out kicking my ass, but now the soreness doesn't last. The 2nd workout that was almost all leg focused nearly killed me though. I think I've lost a pound or two since I started. I went and bought a 3-pack of stronger resistance bands to work through. The one in the box is pretty light.

    The one thing that is pissing me off is that a few exercises don't seem to track my motion very well. Inline skating only seems to recognize 1/3 of the jumps that I do, and tennis is over-sensitive.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The 2nd workout that was almost all leg focused nearly killed me though.

    I guess it is result of years of active walking, but my legs haven't felt too bad after those exercises. But jumping is probably most taxing part in whole regime.
    The one thing that is pissing me off is that a few exercises don't seem to track my motion very well. Inline skating only seems to recognize 1/3 of the jumps that I do, and tennis is over-sensitive.

    I have problems with right leg lunges, because nunchuk is too close to the knee. Then there was the exercise with resistance band that I couldn't get register at all at the first. If game gets stuck, I do the exercise by myself and continue to the next part.

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    The 2nd workout that was almost all leg focused nearly killed me though.

    I guess it is result of years of active walking, but my legs haven't felt too bad after those exercises. But jumping is probably most taxing part in whole regime.
    The one thing that is pissing me off is that a few exercises don't seem to track my motion very well. Inline skating only seems to recognize 1/3 of the jumps that I do, and tennis is over-sensitive.

    I have problems with right leg lunges, because nunchuk is too close to the knee. Then there was the exercise with resistance band that I couldn't get register at all at the first. If game gets stuck, I do the exercise by myself and continue to the next part.

    I had the exact same problems with the lunges, I could only get one side to register.

    This arrived for me on Saturday. Unlike Wii Fit I think I will stick with it, the 30 day challenge is a great idea well executed.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    This arrived for me on Saturday. Unlike Wii Fit I think I will stick with it, the 30 day challenge is a great idea well executed.

    Yeah, it is pretty well done. I just do the exercises, and don't answer the questions. I have pretty good idea about my eating habits and what is wrong with them.

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    Moioink wrote: »
    This arrived for me on Saturday. Unlike Wii Fit I think I will stick with it, the 30 day challenge is a great idea well executed.

    Yeah, it is pretty well done. I just do the exercises, and don't answer the questions. I have pretty good idea about eating habits and what is wrong with it.

    I answered the questions the first time around to experience the whole package but yeah, once is enough. Drink a lot of water, eat more and smaller meals throughout the day, cut out the sugary crap etc. that's all the questionnaire boils down to, well known dietary stuff but it's neat that it's there for those who don't know better.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    But if you answer the questions you'll get trophies!!

    Whatever, I do the surveys after the workout while I'm cooling down, but there's really no incentive to do them.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    One thing that I really think game is missing is that you can't have your own music played via SD. It would be really nice to have something more listeanable on the background. Although listening Megadeth and having commentator go "Woo yeah!" on the background could be distracting.

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The music is very gymy and does the job. Knowing me if I could have custom soundtracks via SD I'd spend too much time fiddling with that rather than exercising. The desire to tinker is an illness...

    Day two over and I am feeling pretty good about this still :) I love how the track exercise can mix and match walking, running, kick ups and high knees with little rest intervals in between, it feels really intelligently designed. Day three is a rest day, I think I will go for a long walk instead.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    Day two over and I am feeling pretty good about this still :) I love how the track exercise can mix and match walking, running, kick ups and high knees with little rest intervals in between, it feels really intelligently designed. Day three is a rest day, I think I will go for a long walk instead.

    Hmh, I have done three days, and tomorrow is my first rest day. Running is really neatly done, but I'm glad that no one is seeing me doing kick ups or high knees. :)

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yesterday was break day, and but I will later today continue my painful journey on the world of fitness. At least I do feel better.

    In other news, EA has now announced that EA Sports Active is fastest selling 3rd party game for Wii, and has sold more than 600 000 copies already. EA has also already announced expansion that will be out in November. I wonder what exercises it will feature, and will it focus on more advanced exercises?

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I dealt with punching bag for very first time today. Easily most taxing exercise so far. Overall I'm feeling pretty good, although sore in muscles that I didn't even know to exist. Upper body exercises seem to be far more harder for more than ones meant for legs.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I finally figured out the timing on inline skating. Hopefully I can replicate it so I don't end up yelling at my tv again:

    - "You're going to hurt yourself out there, you're doing it wrong."
    - "GO FUCK YOURSELF FITNESS GUY."

    I feel bad for my downstairs neighbors when it pulls up things like side-to-side jumps.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I finally figured out the timing on inline skating.

    How did you have any problems with timing? I mean, it is simple. Jump when guy is on green part of the ramp.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I have no idea. I just know that I would jump and nothing would happen.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I have no idea. I just know that I would jump and nothing would happen.

    Hmh, that's strange. I have more problems with getting full speed than jumping.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've also noticed that games like tennis are overly sensitive. The demo video shows the guy doing a full body motion, stepping back and then forehanding or whatever. But I find that if I take a step, it's interpreted as a swing and by the time the animation goes back to neutral, the ball has passed. So in order to hit the targets (which gives positive feedback), you need to not move as much, kind of negating the point of the exercise.

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  • KaspianKaspian Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I picked this up the other day so I can lose 20 pounds for my wedding in a few months. It's been great so far. I'm pretty lazy, so getting out of the house to go to a gym or even take a walk was something I never made myself do. With this though, I can just do it alone in my living room whenever I want. I'm very happy with the purchase and already feel much better after 2 days of using it.

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wow this sounds pretty intense...curiosity = piqued

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Are you finding that the nunchuck wire gets in the way? I find it quite annoying with some exercises that use the resistance band. I am seriously considering one of those wireless nunchucks.

    Day 5 still going strong.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    george-x wrote: »
    Wow this sounds pretty intense...curiosity = piqued

    Yeah it is surprisingly intense, and feels good start for anyone who doesn't much about fitness. I was surprised to learn how much you can actually burn with simple exercises if they are balanced correctly.

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Yeah, occasionally the cord gets in the way, but nothing too bad. Though one time during a run, the nunchuck came out of the leg strap.

    Another thing that bugs me is that if you hit +, it goes to the pause menu where you can change options, etc. The only problem is that you can't hit + to go back to the exercise; you have to point the remote at the 'Resume' button. So if you're in an exercise using the resistance band and you accidentally get to the menu, you have to break your stretch or whatever you're doing, point at the screen, then go back and finish. This seems to happen most often during bent-over rows.

    But overall, I'm liking it. Been using it for almost 2 weeks, and I've lost about 2 pounds.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This sounds really good. I'll keep an eye on it.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Twenty minutes training with weights? What? You should be aiming to do at least an hour and half or so.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    Are you finding that the nunchuck wire gets in the way? I find it quite annoying with some exercises that use the resistance band.

    I haven't found it problematic, but then again, I'm probably doing simpler exercises than you. For me bigger problem has been getting resistance band back to its original form. Sometimes it just doesn't return to its normal form after it has been twisted.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Leitner wrote: »
    Twenty minutes training with weights? What? You should be aiming to do at least an hour and half or so.

    Weights were primarily used for relaxing my shoulders and back, and to help with hand coordination. For those purposes, even 20 minutes was very effective, and I did lose weight little bit faster that way. It is worth noticing that I did it on daily basis, on very fast pace, and without any kind of breaks.

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    What difficulty are you folks on? I started on easy but I think I will move on to medium at the two week mark.

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  • NorfairNorfair Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This sounds interesting. I can't afford a Wii right now (I'm having my wisdom teeth out and I'm leery of overspending or getting into debt atm), but I may be borrowing a friend's Wii this summer, and I could certainly stand to lose more weight. I'll keep an eye on this.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Norfair wrote: »
    (I'm having my wisdom teeth out and I'm leery of overspending or getting into debt atm)

    Good luck with that. I was somewhat lucky that my wisdom teeths were pulled off when I was seventeen. Dental care in Finland is totally free for those below 18, and it is pretty expensive process to do (200 euros or so) when you are older.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Moioink wrote: »
    What difficulty are you folks on? I started on easy but I think I will move on to medium at the two week mark.

    I'm currently on easy, and I'm going to stay on that level for a while. From what I have heard, there is huge leap in intesity between the levels. If I remember correctly, someone at Neogaf said that his hard 30-day challenge started with program that burnt 620 calories. That sounds pretty extreme.

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  • NorfairNorfair Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    Norfair wrote: »
    (I'm having my wisdom teeth out and I'm leery of overspending or getting into debt atm)

    Good luck with that. I was somewhat lucky that my wisdom teeths were pulled off when I was seventeen. Dental care in Finland is totally free for those below 18, and it is pretty expensive process to do (200 euros or so) when you are older.

    Thanks. This summer is certainly going to be delightful. :P Yes, I'm a bit mad at the dentist I had in high school, who told me over and over again "no, you won't need to have them out." I go to get my yearly checkup a couple of weeks ago and the first thing my dentist tells me is, "They're all going to have to come out." So all the money I was putting towards a new Wii and a bunch of other stuff is now going towards my dental work. Thankfully I have dental insurance, the costs would be horrible otherwise. The US health care system is terrible beyond belief.

    Back to your regularly scheduled thread. :wink:

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    wow that sounds great. You should be burning around 500 or so in a good workout

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    george-x wrote: »
    wow that sounds great. You should be burning around 500 or so in a good workout

    I haven't counted my average, but I would say that it is somewhere around 190. This is from easy course, mind.

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    As someone who doesn't have wiifit is it worth the $80 + $50 rather than just $60 for DDR with mat?

    (I don't even have a wii, but will get one eventually waiting on price drop, my wife used to enjoy DDR Max 2 for the PS2 for working out but the pad broke and we lost the disk)

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    Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
    I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    greeble wrote: »
    As someone who doesn't have wiifit is it worth the $80 + $50 rather than just $60 for DDR with mat?

    (I don't even have a wii, but will get one eventually waiting on price drop, my wife used to enjoy DDR Max 2 for the PS2 for working out but the pad broke and we lost the disk)

    Well, it retails for 60 $, and comes with resistance band and pouch for nunchuk. Outside resistance band, everything happens with power of wiimote and nunchuk. Band can get broken, and I think it is way too weak for those who have done some serious exercise. I would say it is better than DDR for work out, as the program concentrates on each area instead of just legs.

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Oh? So you don't need a balance board? (why is it on the front of the box?) This is much more appealing now. Paying $80 for wiifit on top of this was a bit much.

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    Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
    I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    greeble wrote: »
    Oh? So you don't need a balance board? (why is it on the front of the box?)

    Balance board is supported as a optional control device. From what I have heard, most exercises work worse with it, or are less intensive.

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    That just sold me on it. Elkatas,:^:

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm also starting on easy. I think I'm averaging around 140 cals per workout, but I'm also using a heavier resistance band, so maybe it's slightly higher than they're calculating.

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  • george-xgeorge-x New YorkRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Picked it up. Super excited for this - thanks dude!

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    george-x wrote: »
    Picked it up. Super excited for this - thanks dude!

    Just remember that there are some annoying quirks on detection, mostly on lunges.

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