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Wasps? In my porch light? It's more common than you think.

MimMim dead.Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Just two minutes ago I found two mini wasp hives in my porch light. Turning on the light doesn't get the fuckers out, and I'm not about to reach in there myself (nor are my parents).

1.) Are wasps very aggressive? Will they attack if you just pass?

2.) How do I tell if it is an abandoned hive?

3.) How would I go about getting the fuckers out? If I have to.

I have a HIGH phobia of bees/wasps/hornets/spiders based on an event I wrote about in the S&E thread on D&D. So this highly unnerves me to the core.

I pass by this light daily taking the dogs out and just leaving the house in general. My parents feel my phobia of them is silly but fuck them, this is serious to me.

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  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    I have a HIGH phobia of bees/wasps/hornets/spiders

    You and me both.

    Buy a can of wasp killer from Wal Mart, wait till dusk and spray the fuck out of the nests. By dusk, all the wasps will be back in their nests and they won't come out, so don't worry about that when you spray. Wait a day or two and destroy the nest (it's just dirt with holes in it).

    Problem solved. If I can do this, anyone can.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    I have a HIGH phobia of bees/wasps/hornets/spiders

    You and me both.

    Buy a can of wasp killer from Wal Mart, wait till dusk and spray the fuck out of the nests. By dusk, all the wasps will be back in their nests and they won't come out, so don't worry about that when you spray. Wait a day or two and destroy the nest (it's just dirt with holes in it).

    Problem solved. If I can do this, anyone can.
    you don't even have to destroy the nests if you waylay it with about a gallon of spray.

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  • TinuzTinuz Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    I have a HIGH phobia of bees/wasps/hornets/spiders

    You and me both.

    Buy a can of wasp killer from Wal Mart, wait till dusk and spray the fuck out of the nests. By dusk, all the wasps will be back in their nests and they won't come out, so don't worry about that when you spray. Wait a day or two and destroy the nest (it's just dirt with holes in it).

    Problem solved. If I can do this, anyone can.

    Observe the nest for a few days....if any activity, spray again.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Grab some of the foaming spray if you can. That stuff is crazy great, and it basically traps them in the nest if you wait till night when they're all camped inside.

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Lest there be any confusion:
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    Basically any number of 'wasp and yellow jacket sprays' that come in usually bright aerosol-like cans. Usually boasting something along the lines of 'kills from x feet away!'

    Use this in early, early morning, or late at night.

    Rest easy, for you are now feared by them.

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've only seen one thus far fly in there, so i'm surprised that the hive looked as formed as it did. I'll talk to my dad and hope he caves in to helping me. If not...I'm going to have to re-think my escape route till winter.

    Where do they even freaking go at night/winter? Do they even sleep?

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  • EWomEWom Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Wasps will generally be pretty aggressive from what I've found so I suggest going the wasp-spray route. And yes, I'd wait till night, though I probably wouldn't turn the light on, then spray. Never know how that spray is going to react on a hot light bulb.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    I've only seen one thus far fly in there, so i'm surprised that the hive looked as formed as it did. I'll talk to my dad and hope he caves in to helping me. If not...I'm going to have to re-think my escape route till winter.

    Where do they even freaking go at night/winter? Do they even sleep?

    At night, the wasps are in their nest, presumably dreaming about stinging things. In winter I think they go dormant/hibernate.

    I've had to deal with wasps in a similar, but more extreme situation than you've got here, and the advice people are giving is good.

    The wasp killer sprays will usually let you spray from 10-20 ft away, so they're really pretty safe to use.

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Haha, yeah the wasp spray is awesome. Those things shoot a stream really far so you can basically stand inside the house, crack the door open and stick the can out to hose them down. If things go south, just close the door. That's what I always do.

    Now all my wasps are dead, and it's a little disappointing. I still have a lot of spray left, and it's pretty fun to hose those things down.

    As to the aggressiveness of wasps, I'm pretty sure they are the least aggressive bee. They won't sting you unless you're swatting at them or something*. But whatever, they're still bees right?

    *Hosing them with wasp poison.

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  • KillgrimageKillgrimage Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    But whatever, they're still bees right?


    Good Sir, Wasps are not Bees. I will direct you to Wikipedia where Bees are from the family Apidae and Wasps from the family Vespidae. While they are on the same order, so are ants, and everyone knows that an ant is VASTLY different from a bee or wasp. Example: I can step on an ant and most will not sting me, while poking a beehive with a stick in my back yard will illicit a very loud buzzing followed by a lot of screaming and my dad laughing at me.

    *Gets off soapbox*

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It's already been said, but it bears repeating. Wait until dusk (or later - I usually kill wasps after 10:00 PM or so) because they're dormant or asleep or something. And yes, wasps are ornery fuckers that attack for no reason.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    jclast wrote: »
    It's already been said, but it bears repeating. Wait until dusk (or later - I usually kill wasps after 10:00 PM or so) because they're dormant or asleep or something. And yes, wasps are ornery fuckers that attack for no reason.
    They attack for a reason, but much like a drunken redneck, that reason is along the lines of 'you got to close to my space' or 'you looked at my girlfriend'.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    jclast wrote: »
    It's already been said, but it bears repeating. Wait until dusk (or later - I usually kill wasps after 10:00 PM or so) because they're dormant or asleep or something. And yes, wasps are ornery fuckers that attack for no reason.
    They attack for a reason, but much like a drunken redneck, that reason is along the lines of 'you got to close to my space' or 'you looked at my girlfriend'.
    True. Imagine I typed "stupid reasons" the first time. :P

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Corvus wrote: »
    The wasp killer sprays will usually let you spray from 10-20 ft away, so they're really pretty safe to use.

    I usually stand about 15' away when I spray the nest and I have yet to be stung by wasps while killing them.

    I used to get stung all the time because they liked to build nests underneath the deck of my grandmother's swimming pool, and somehow I always managed to be the only person to disturb them.

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    But whatever, they're still bees right?


    Good Sir, Wasps are not Bees. I will direct you to Wikipedia where Bees are from the family Apidae and Wasps from the family Vespidae. While they are on the same order, so are ants, and everyone knows that an ant is VASTLY different from a bee or wasp. Example: I can step on an ant and most will not sting me, while poking a beehive with a stick in my back yard will illicit a very loud buzzing followed by a lot of screaming and my dad laughing at me.

    *Gets off soapbox*



    Okay, this whole bees versus wasps debate is getting pretty tired. The wasps have been lobbying to distinguish themselves for a long time, but what does it matter? We're gonna spray both of them with the same can of poison in the end. I find the idea that we should be paying the wasps respect with any special nomenclature completely outlandish. In fact, I'm going to take the opposite stance. We should just call everything "bugs". You heard me wasps! I can't tell the difference between you and the ants! I will indescriminately squirt bugs with bulk cans of liquid death purchased on sale at Home Depot!

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well, the light and where the hives are, are at a weird angle in that i would be close to it to have to hit it, unfortunately. I may have to just wear a ton of clothes to make a protective "suit". My dad isn't home yet so I will talk to him about it.

    I'm still wondering if the hive is active though, I would expect there to be a ton more wasps. Thus far I've only seen the one, and apparently the fucker is fast at building.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    Well, the light and where the hives are, are at a weird angle in that i would be close to it to have to hit it, unfortunately. I may have to just wear a ton of clothes to make a protective "suit". My dad isn't home yet so I will talk to him about it.

    I'm still wondering if the hive is active though, I would expect there to be a ton more wasps. Thus far I've only seen the one, and apparently the fucker is fast at building.
    It's not going to look like what a beekeeper's hive looks like, with them coming and going and massing all over the nest. Wait until late evening if you want a good idea how many are in the nest.

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Mim wrote: »
    Well, the light and where the hives are, are at a weird angle in that i would be close to it to have to hit it, unfortunately. I may have to just wear a ton of clothes to make a protective "suit". My dad isn't home yet so I will talk to him about it.

    I'm still wondering if the hive is active though, I would expect there to be a ton more wasps. Thus far I've only seen the one, and apparently the fucker is fast at building.
    It's not going to look like what a beekeeper's hive looks like, with them coming and going and massing all over the nest. Wait until late evening if you want a good idea how many are in the nest.

    What do you mean? You mean when I spray them they're going to react or do you mean they'll be flying all around looking to sting a bitch?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_wasp.

    I'm guessing that's what you have by how you describe it.

    You're probably only dealing with 4 or 5 wasps, but it can reach up to 50+ depending on the size of the hive.

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_wasp.

    I'm guessing that's what you have by how you describe it.

    You're probably only dealing with 4 or 5 wasps, but it can reach up to 50+ depending on the size of the hive.

    Does it matter if the color of the wasp is different? Cause the ones I have are brown. Also, if I'm not allergic to bees in that I can still swell (my right ass cheek can attest to that) but not die, does that mean I'm not allergic to wasps as well?

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    The poison is different, but if you're allergic to one you're most likely allergic to the other. What you're describing sounds like a hornet (although it's just another type of wasp in the same family as the paper wasp).

    Same basic nest too, usually surrounded by some layers and built in shaded areas.

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    bowen wrote: »
    The poison is different, but if you're allergic to one you're most likely allergic to the other. What you're describing sounds like a hornet (although it's just another type of wasp in the same family as the paper wasp).

    Same basic nest too, usually surrounded by some layers and built in shaded areas.

    Oh God. D:

    Okay, well I'll talk to my dad when I see him.

    It's so weird, before I got stung in the ass I thought they were faeries and tried to get as close as possible to them. Now I just want to kill them all.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    They're painful. I've been stung by a whole hive of angry, angry hornets. So I'm a little scared of flying bugs now.

    A little soak in that chemical will fuck them up though. Don't worry, they won't even come out if you wait until like 11:00 ish (they're still out during daylight hours).

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  • MimMim dead.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Well now I just picture my father and I sitting in a hospital with a bunch of hornet bites and me sobbing "They weren't supposed to come out! THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO COME OUT!!" at 12 in the morning.

    I will (hopefully) update when he gets home and when we proceed with the genocide of the evil fuckers.

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  • cr0wcr0w Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2009
    The wasp spray will kill 'em good, assuming you actually get it on them. It's harder than it sounds when you have them flying around looking for your face. You know, so they can sting it. Hell, I was an exterminator and I still got a little freaked out when I had to use that stuff. The good news is it kills them fast, so if you hit one, you don't have to worry about it.

    However

    The wasps leave pheromones on and around their nest to attract other wasps, whether to mate or just establish a community. If you kill the wasps the nests belong to and knock the nest down, you will still have wasps coming back and building on that same spot. So either keep a can of spray handy or find yourself some residual pesticide (the kind that you spray on once and it sticks for months) that will kill any wasps landing in that area.

    A lot of the pesticide laws have been really relaxed, so sometimes you can find the stuff to buy at a dedicated store. I know in Texas you can buy damn near everything. I'd recommend finding either Demand or Crosscheck. You can mix it in water (about an ounce or so to a gallon) and it'll dry and stick for a long time.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think a little bit of distilled vinegar will take that out the pheromone.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited June 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    As to the aggressiveness of wasps, I'm pretty sure they are the least aggressive bee. They won't sting you unless you're swatting at them or something*. But whatever, they're still bees right?

    Fun fact: Cicada Killers, despite their massive size and fearsome name, only sting in defense of their ground-based nests, and behave more like flies than other vespids.

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  • GrisloGrislo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not really sure the guy who's more afraid of wasps than he should be really needs to see that picture, despite that particular bug being sweet and cuddly in disposition.

    Alternate post, re: the fairy thing: Get close to them and say, "I don't believe in fairies!" and you won't need spray.

    Actual advice: Spray them at night.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I prefer to light it on fire when I'm done and the nest is on the ground.

    It's the only way to be sure.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2009
    It doesn't matter, if it has a stinger I'm completely terrified. Good luck to you, Mim. I don't want to say better you than me, but... yeah.

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  • BarrakkethBarrakketh Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Grislo wrote: »
    I'm not really sure the guy who's more afraid of wasps than he should be really needs to see that picture, despite that particular bug being sweet and cuddly in disposition.

    That particular bug is also impaled on a needle :P

    That said, I watched one of my high school science teachers pick up a black widow and carry it out of the lunchroom. I'm certainly not brave (or foolish) enough to do that.

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